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1) I don't really care if it's not my NT.1. We want to see Utd players in Euro.
2. If he was being rested, then of course it's fine but he's been shunned because of one bad 45 minutes. Extremely unfairly. That damages the confidence of a young player and could hamper his performances next season (small chance but a possibility yes)
Yeah can't be great for confidence. I think hes been pretty underrated by Deschamps so far.As I said early on in the tournament, it's a giant waste of time for him. Actual rest could've been much better for him.
True, but he still has to train and travel and can't really take a break while not exactly receiving a confidence boost.
His direct competition has been Gignac, who in every single of his substitute appearances has been ghastly. I'm not expecting him to start or anything, but his omission for the aforementioned is nutty.They have a stacked squad, so it's obviously hard to break in there especially as he doesn't quite fit in. He's playing in a squad which was one of the favourites from the start of the tournaments, not some losers who couldn't make the top 4 in league. Different level of competition.
1. Suit yourself.1) I don't really care if it's not my NT.
2) There's nothing unfair at Euros or WC, you either perform or you're benched, especially if the squad is as tight as it is with the French who probably have the strongest squad of all teams. Or actually that's how it should work, not like with English NT.
Don't think he's ever played as a striker for France. He just doesn't fit their blueprint for a CF, so that's why he won't get games there. Especially with Greizmann on the pitch, who already does the type of job Martial would do upfront.His direct competition has been Gignac, who in every single of his substitute appearances has been ghastly. I'm not expecting him to start or anything, but his omission for the aforementioned is nutty.
But in the end it's France's problem and DD's problem, not ours really. I can't see him not being picked at the Euros affecting how he does for a club where he was a started and a main star last season, sorry.1. Suit yourself.
2. Yes it is unfair. He was played 12 minutes in the first game after a stellar season. Then he was started all of a sudden. He had a bad 45 minutes but so did everyone else. France have had horrendous performers until this game and yet they start/get minutes every game. Martial has been completely sidelined .. (dare i use the word: unfairly again?) and that can damage his confidence for next season.
Griezmann and Martial are very different players, I feel.Don't think he's ever played as a striker for France. He just doesn't fit their blueprint for a CF, so that's why he won't get games there. Especially with Greizmann on the pitch, who already does the type of job Martial would do upfront.
As forwards they both stretch the pitch. Greizmann's their best player and likes to play off a target man, I don't see how Martial can provide that.Griezmann and Martial are very different players, I feel.
Yeah, fair enough! From a United perspective, a rest will do him good. He was carrying our attack throughout last season.Yea I do get this point of view but really, given how much he's been used by us I'm glad he's actually not playing.
You're probably right in that sense that the game was already dead at HT so he could've just thrown both Coman and Martial at them but still, I can't complain due to his rest.Yeah, fair enough! From a United perspective, a rest will do him good. He was carrying our attack throughout last season.
I still think it's a bit daft by DD. You want to give your game changers, who are out of form, some minutes to build up their form/confidence. And when/if France needs a goal in later rounds, Sissoko and Gignac are not their best hope for that source of inspiration, IMO, of course.
No, Giroud and Koscielny have yellows, that's why they are the first out, after that Coman covers both wings which makes him a lot more valuable than Martial, he is the one that needs to be in form.Forget Martial but I do think Deschamps was being idiotic tonight. 4-0 at half-time one would think you rest Griezmann and/or Payet immediately, let alone at 60th minute mark.
Yeah! Let's hope he comes back for pre season well rested and prepared. Expecting big things from him this year!You're probably right in that sense that the game was already dead at HT so he could've just thrown both Coman and Martial at them but still, I can't complain due to his rest.
Do we? I don't give a feck tbh.1. We want to see Utd players in Euro.
2. If he was being rested, then of course it's fine but he's been shunned because of one bad 45 minutes. Extremely unfairly. That damages the confidence of a young player and could hamper his performances next season (small chance but a possibility yes)
I don't say he should have put Martial in as that would simply be a nice gesture which I don't expect from Deshamps. Footballing-wise, Coman seems more in-form so it's logical he plays but if he's really that worried about Giroud or Koscielny getting yellows - why hasn't he sub Giroud and/or Koscielny earlier?No, Giroud and Koscielny have yellows, that's why they are the first out, after that Coman covers both wings which makes him a lot more valuable than Martial, he is the one that needs to be in form.
Sorry but, if that's enough to damage his confidence for any longer than a few days, let alone the rest of the season then he doesn't have the right mentality to cut it at the highest level.1. Suit yourself.
2. Yes it is unfair. He was played 12 minutes in the first game after a stellar season. Then he was started all of a sudden. He had a bad 45 minutes but so did everyone else. France have had horrendous performers until this game and yet they start/get minutes every game. Martial has been completely sidelined .. (dare i use the word: unfairly again?) and that can damage his confidence for next season.
I don't know why he didn't subbed them earlier but that's why he did it.I don't say he should have put Martial in as that would simply be a nice gesture which I don't expect from Deshamps. Footballing-wise, Coman seems more in-form so it's logical he plays but if he's really that worried about Giroud or Koscielny getting yellows - why hasn't he sub Giroud and/or Koscielny earlier?
It's as if people just criticize for the sake of it without even looking at the game, the needs of the moment and everything.No, Giroud and Koscielny have yellows, that's why they are the first out, after that Coman covers both wings which makes him a lot more valuable than Martial, he is the one that needs to be in form.
They are convinced that Deschamps is shite and hates Martial, when I'm pretty sure that Deschamps tried Martial and Payet on both wings before taking his decision because that's how he is. Deschamps is probably the most impartial coach out there, he was strongly against purchasing Gignac at Marseille and now he selects him even though he plays in Mexico.It's as if people just criticize for the sake of it without even looking at the game, the needs of the moment and everything.
The comments I'm reading, I don't know if they're written in jokes or if posters are serious. Some people definitely a reality check that everything doesn't revolve around Manchester United players.
Whatever happens against Germany, I consider Deschamps as a very good coach. Lots of sensible decisions and readjustments he's made. It is nice to see a coach who has clear ideas and doesn't hesitate to change things when he doesn't like them, a big big change from LVG for instance.They are convinced that Deschamps is shite and hates Martial, when I'm pretty sure that Deschamps tried Martial and Payet on both wings before taking his decision because that's how he is. Deschamps is probably the most impartial coach out there, he was strongly against purchasing Gignac at Marseille and now he selects him even though he plays in Mexico.
He's their only other striker after GiroudWhy on earth do they keep subbing on that lumbering donkey Gignac ?
It's about opinions. You have been defending Deschamps from the get go even though France have never looked convincing. Similarly, we are entitled to the opinion that he's biased and has mistreated Martial.They are convinced that Deschamps is shite and hates Martial, when I'm pretty sure that Deschamps tried Martial and Payet on both wings before taking his decision because that's how he is.
Obviously. There is a very slight chance that this damages his confidence - but there is still a chance. Also, one or two poor games at the start of the preseason/season and it can pile up. Martial is icy cold though so hopefully he'll be up for it next season.Sorry but, if that's enough to damage his confidence for any longer than a few days, let alone the rest of the season then he doesn't have the right mentality to cut it at the highest level.
That being said, I don't think this will affect him anywhere near as negatively as some are making out.
Wait, you seriously think that he hates Martial?It's about opinions. You have been defending Deschamps from the get go even though France have never looked convincing. Similarly, we are entitled to the opinion that he's biased and has mistreated Martial.
Also, imo, his visible disgust when Martial misplaced a pass and then his constant refusal to give him any sort of minutes suggests that he probably does hate Martial. That's all. Opinions.
No. More like he doesn't rate Martial.Wait, you seriously think that he hates Martial?
Funnily enough people said the same thing about Payet.No. More like he doesn't rate Martial.
What else is the explanation? I know you really like Deschamps but can you explain why he didn't give Martial some minutes today? You need your game changers to be ready/on form when they are needed. Even if he can not get in the starting lineup, he is surely a game changer - unless you think Gignac will rescue France when they are 1,2 down.Funnily enough people said the same thing about Payet.
Reminds me of the time that idiot Domenech kept subbing on the useless Govou in the second half of every game in WC 2010Why on earth do they keep subbing on that lumbering donkey Gignac ?
His direct competition is not Gignac, while he can play there his direct competition is actually PayetHis direct competition has been Gignac, who in every single of his substitute appearances has been ghastly. I'm not expecting him to start or anything, but his omission for the aforementioned is nutty.
