God we need him back.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Thank God x
We did. He won't be the Savior by himself but his class has been badly missed.
He'll be injured again in no time as per.
When is that fecker finally back?
Needs to come back and stay fit now. Same with Pogba.
You can see that he is a level above Rashford up-front when he's missing. No question that we need him fit and firing up-front if we're to do anything.
Yes. Without them our attack is bottom half level.
Absolutely, there's simply no comparison between the two.
That could have something to do with Pogba being missing at the same time. We’ll need Pogba or Martial will have the same problems.
While I agree that Pogba makes both better, Martial is way more effective in his finishing. I think Ole has spotted this too, hence why he's given him a new position
Got excited that the come back was announced. Thanks guys
Our best forward option now. He’s absence has highlighted our struggle without him. Rashford is in terrible form.
He is a better finisher but he’d struggle to finish nothing and I’d argue that Rashford is slightly better at getting into dangerous positions. Both will struggle without Pogba.
The one think I’ve noticed in his absence is how much better his hold up play is and ability to bring others in to the game than what we currently have.
I fear he is probably going to need a few weeks to get back up to speed but hoping he shows the desire, movement and workrate he showed in the games before the injury. His little bit of guile upfront has been missed.
When all 3 are fit has to be James left, Martial central and Rashford on the right.
I fear he is probably going to need a few weeks to get back up to speed but hoping he shows the desire, movement and workrate he showed in the games before the injury. His little bit of guile upfront has been missed.
When all 3 are fit has to be James left, Martial central and Rashford on the right.
As per what?
Where has this been announced? I thought the news so far is that him and Shaw are still out with Pogba fit to play and Ole mentioned that he might get a few minutes against Rochedale
It's not that's the point
I assumed the thread bump would be good news, but just more misery on top of the rest.
OGS in post match interview stated he expected Martial to be back for Arsenal and outside chance for tomorrow.
As per out of his arse, because now there's some noise that Martial is some kind of injury prone player when the past hasn't shown that to be true. He has had injuries, but nothing out of the ordinary for your typical professional player.
Yeah he's not, I've already provided his injury record in this thread x
Souness said that on Sky. He said Something on the lines of they chose to rely on Martial, then he added whenever he s available.
He gave the impression that Martial is a crock imo
Martial gets no love from the English pundits because he's taking some shine away from their boy Rashford who seems to be immune from criticism by the majority of them.
Good to hear. I'd love to see him get a few minutes in the cup.
Tinfoil hat stuff is getting ridiculous now.
Just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it's not actually happening. I'm being a bit tongue in cheek with my previous comment but there's definitely a discrepancy in how Martial and Rashford are covered by the English media when they're having good or bad games. It's not really that strange though, the media will usually be more interested in covering up for their countryman over a foreigner, just as they're more likely to go over the top with their praise. You don't get Rashford vs Mbappe conversations abroad like we had in English media.
I think Rashford and Martial make each other look better. Martial likes to roam and come short while Rashford likes to run behind. They also seem to understand each other’s short game.
I agree that both are better with another striker next to them. If we are to persist with one striker up-front though, there's no question it should be Martial when he returns. Rashford is too limited right now. All he has is pace and a right foot.
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Seems right. Martial has more tools to be a CF than Rashford so it seems.
Martial can shoot on his left foot, better hold-up, creativity, heading. I don't see anything Rashford is better than him at. More stamina & Free-kicks i guess but even those are dodgy.
Motivation perhaps. Martial at times looked disinterested, not this season though. Since put in his favourite no 9 position he seems up to it again.
He was never trusted under Mourinho from the beginning, always played out of position. I think anyone would be disinterested under those circumstances. Stick Rashford on the bench for weeks on end and i'm sure he would lose motivation too.
He looked a different player this season though. Much more lively and focused up-front. He was back in his element again. Hopefully he can carry on where he left off because we desperately need him.
Well that is not usual at all.
What the feck are you talking about. Everyone is having a go at Rashford.
Yes it is.
And yet they have remarkably similar levels of goals and assists. With Rashford’s being slightly better. And Rashford is almost two years younger than him.
See my previous response to the exact same comment someone else made. It's 9 posts above yours.
You're kind of missing the point, the statistics don't cover what he's mentioning in his comparison of the two. You actually have to use your eyes for that.
From what I am reading and hearing from them is that Manchester United need to get a new no 9 because Rashford is not ready to lead the line. Basically Martial doesn't exist to them. It's either Rashford or bust
That's actually not true. Even if we base it on stats, Martial overall has a slightly better minutes per goal & assist (145 mins to 147 mins). The only benefit of Rashford being younger is because Martial has had his development stalled over 2 years because of Mourinho. He went from playing 2600 mins in the league under Van Gaal in 15/16 to averaging 1600 mins in the league the next 3 years, out of position and marginalised.
Rashford hasn't had the same negative development. His minutes and standing in the team have progressed with each season. He is stable and further along in his development. I believe you can remember the difference in treatment they got and still do?
Did you know that under Mourinho, Rashford played 18 more matches in the premier league alone compared to Martial? That's over 1000 minutes more. Martial remarkably still managed to outscore him too. Seems crazy huh?
Rashford's PL record under Mourinho:
100 matches, 22 Goals, 13 assists. (5849 mins)
Martial's PL record under Mourinho:
82 matches 23 goals, 14 assists. (4765 mins)
In 15/16 a 19 year old Martial carried us that season. Our plan solely revolved around giving the ball to Martial he was that good. I'm still waiting to see Rashford have that level of influence on us as a team yet.
I do think Rashford has high potential as an inside forward but I class Martial as the greater talent overall. He has a lot more attributes to his game which don't hinder us as an attacking unit like I explained in my post above.
Here are the overall stats for all interested:
Rashford record overall
48 goals 27 assists 175 matches 11,046 mins (147 mins per g/a)
Premier league:
30 goals 16 assists 117 matches 7,216 mins (157 mins per g/a)
Premier league record under Mourinho:
22 goals 13 assists 100 matches 5,849 mins (167 mins per g/a)
Martial record overall
50 goals 30 assists 177 matches 11,579 mins (145 mins per g/a)
Premier League:
36 goals 19 assists 116 matches 7,667 mins (139 mins per g/a)
Premier League record under Mourinho:
23 goals 14 assists 82 matches 4,765 mins (129 mins per g/a)
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