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Leroy The Red

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Yeah i noticed that as well. Where have his driving runs forward gone? It seemed every time he was on the ball yesterday he either ran into a blind alley or just recycled it back.
I’d imagine his confidence is now shot to pieces. He’s never been the most self believing player.
 

The Real Treble 99

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There was a point in the game yesterday which showed how poor martial has become. A great ball by Shaw in the oppo box, which Tony couldn’t even be bothered to go for it. A player like him should be able to read the game & anticipate. Plain lazy attitude & not good enough.
 

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There was a point in the game yesterday which showed how poor martial has become. A great ball by Shaw in the oppo box, which Tony couldn’t even be bothered to go for it. A player like him should be able to read the game & anticipate. Plain lazy attitude & not good enough.
Get out! How about the multiple balls Martial played through for Luke to run into for an easy cross into the area, only for Shaw to stand there as if waiting to be fed.
 

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He has still contributed nonetheless to get us here. Lack of scoring does not negate that. Take your shite martial agenda and shove it somewhere else.

Granted he isnt playing well to the standard we expect but he hasn't been a liability. Both him and greenwood cant even receive the ball in deep areas because of our midfielders. Look at how deep greenwood had to drop yesterday only to pass it back. Same as martial. Still I won't lie and say I dont expect Martial to use his better ability and drive up with the ball. He looks lost and average right now but there still is no reason for posters like you to continue this shite narrative of him not being good enough. Its tired and has been proven not true,
You're using yesterday when he played out wide as a reason as to why he's been shite? He's played CF most of the season except the last couple of games. Cavani plays there and scored, I don't know why you're moving the goalposts for him, he simply isn't good enough to lead the line for a club that wants to win things.

And this isn't a new conversation, this discussion has been rumbling on for the best part of 3 seasons now. Granted, it went quiet at the end of last season when he was on fire but that's starting to look like that was just a purple patch in an incredibly ordinary career so far. He's done nothing the likes of Jame Beattie, Kevin Phillips or Dave Nuget did for their respective clubs over the space of one season, only to disappear back to the norm the following seasons.

I'd love Martial to come good, who wouldn't? But after 5 seasons you've got to start questioning what the point is.
 

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Unfortunately for him and us, the goals haven't been coming, the work rate that propelled him after the lockdown last season has dwindled and he just looks very average at the moment. His feet are still great but all round play is just not cutting it. I can't see him being our number 9 nor can I see him being more beneficial to the team than Rashford who occupies the same areas as him.

It seems like a move away may be on the cards.
 

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Sometimes we have to call a spade a spade. Martial has been waaaay below required standard this season.

How long can he perform on this level and still be considered as our first choice nr.9? I give him this season to prove that a new first choice Nr.9 isn’t our first priority in the next transfer window.
 

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his high wage will be the biggest stumbling block. Who's gonna pay him 250k/wk?
Good point, probably suggests a 35-40M fee and not a 55-60M one. Cavani only got 210 on a free so probably going rate on a free for Martial is probably 50-75K or so less than his wages, which is 4.5M a year difference which over 4-5 years is that 20M difference.

He's not good enough to warrant a system catered to him.
Not for Manchester United. But like I said with Lazio and Immobile, there is probably a team out there for whom he can move to and stay at his wages. Roma is paying Mkhitaryan 180 a week apparently and they will be rid of Kalinic's 70 and Dzeko's 150 soon enough up top, and Martial could go down a fair whack and still make the same amount because of their 21% vs 45% rate since they have a Beckham tax there now.

The question is if there's a big team like PSG that wants him and if not, is there a Roma/Leverkusen/Sevilla who wants to build their attack around him for the next few years. My guess is yes, one of those is out there. He's 25 and has obvious skill and 25 french caps and is 15th in Prem goals among active players. Domestically, it wouldn't shock me if Arsenal were interested. None of the other teams with wage earners near that high make sense, though Liverpool might have if they hadn't signed Jota this past summer though obviously yeah, no.
 

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he's in danger of sleepwalking himself out of the club....

he doesnt have the mentality to be a top number 9 imo.

still hoping he can hit his annual purple patch soon though, would be ever so helpful in our quest for the title :)
 

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Good point, probably suggests a 35-40M fee and not a 55-60M one. Cavani only got 210 on a free so probably going rate on a free for Martial is probably 50-75K or so less than his wages, which is 4.5M a year difference which over 4-5 years is that 20M difference.



Not for Manchester United. But like I said with Lazio and Immobile, there is probably a team out there for whom he can move to and stay at his wages. Roma is paying Mkhitaryan 180 a week apparently and they will be rid of Kalinic's 70 and Dzeko's 150 soon enough up top, and Martial could go down a fair whack and still make the same amount because of their 21% vs 45% rate since they have a Beckham tax there now.

The question is if there's a big team like PSG that wants him and if not, is there a Roma/Leverkusen/Sevilla who wants to build their attack around him for the next few years. My guess is yes, one of those is out there. He's 25 and has obvious skill and 25 french caps and is 15th in Prem goals among active players. Domestically, it wouldn't shock me if Arsenal were interested. None of the other teams with wage earners near that high make sense, though Liverpool might have if they hadn't signed Jota this past summer though obviously yeah, no.
Inter milan would surely have hin
 

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I know it's a petty thing to moan about, especially as it's literally happening whilst we're scoring a goal, but did anyone else notice Martial's movement during Pogba's screamer? He should be level with play anticipating Pogba's cross, but instead he's stood miles offside. Watch from 10 seconds in - what was he hoping to do here?


In the end I guess it's a good job he wasn't available for the cross, but still. His movement confuses me at times.
 

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I’d start Martial against Liverpool, but if he puts in another “I feel so sorry for myself” performance, moping around pitch Ole should drop him and go with Cavani and Greenwood as his first two choices up top.

We’re in a title race and we need our 9 to perform, not to watch.
 

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Problem is he is incompatible with the style of Solkjaer's United. He'd shine in a smaller, mid-table team built around him and his idiosyncrasies. The amount of times he'll freeze and skip a ball just shows you that.
 

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Problem is he is incompatible with the style of Solkjaer's United. He'd shine in a smaller, mid-table team built around him and his idiosyncrasies. The amount of times he'll freeze and skip a ball just shows you that.
:lol: :lol:

He's absolutely central to our style.
 

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I’d start Martial against Liverpool, but if he puts in another “I feel so sorry for myself” performance, moping around pitch Ole should drop him and go with Cavani and Greenwood as his first two choices up top.

We’re in a title race and we need our 9 to perform, not to watch.
Because Greenwood definitely hasn't been by far the worst of our attackers this season...
 

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I’d start Martial against Liverpool, but if he puts in another “I feel so sorry for myself” performance, moping around pitch Ole should drop him and go with Cavani and Greenwood as his first two choices up top.

We’re in a title race and we need our 9 to perform, not to watch.
what he says below. Greenword ain't done jack to be relied upon this season, let alone as CF.
Because Greenwood definitely hasn't been by far the worst of our attackers this season...
 

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Him and Rashford absolutely have to improve their goalscoring record if we are to do anything this season. Greenwood, I will put it down to sophomore blues. But these two, no excuses.

Also, does anyone feel that he has lost some confidence because Cavani has taken up his spot? It looks like a recurring theme with him. Are we sure Fergie would have space in his squad for a fair weather player like him? He is not a youngster anymore. I think for a club like us, we should have a world class striker like your Lewandowski's, Benzemas etc. They can hold up the ball like Martial can, but can score bucket loads as wel.It's important that we look at bringing in a striker and winger in the summer.
 

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I’d start Martial against Liverpool, but if he puts in another “I feel so sorry for myself” performance, moping around pitch Ole should drop him and go with Cavani and Greenwood as his first two choices up top.

We’re in a title race and we need our 9 to perform, not to watch.
He hasn’t been great of late but what do you mean by ‘I feel so sorry for myself’? I’m sensing Some conjecture here