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I'd have no problem with Martial being released, and let's say he is hypothetically and we buy a striker in the summer.Given him a new contract when we could just release him (since you thought we could this summer)
Circular conversation, Martial is more than likely going to be injured when the new striker is injured. So just signing someone else as a backup would be the smart option.I'd have no problem with Martial being released, and let's say he is hypothetically and we buy a striker in the summer.
That's fine and all, but what happens when that striker is injured or suspended? We're going to have to rely on Rashford or worse yet - get a loan in.
Offering an existing striker a 1 year extension (let's assume we can reduced wages as well) wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, and it will allow some insurance in case our new striker does get injured etc.
I came here to make a post but this sums up what I think nicely. We have myriad options out wide and Diallo to come back also so I just can't see a place for him.I have a soft spot for Martial, I admit it. Ever since his debut where he made the Liverpool defence look like a team from the danish 4th division I have liked him.
The sad truth is that is just cannot stay fit and that he isnt always clinical enough.
Honestly I hoped it would work out, but surely now we all see its time to upgrade on him.
How can anyone watch United make so many bad and short sighted mistakes for the past decade, and then advocate making another mistake by handing Martial a contract extension. It's been 7 years of mostly rubbish from him. Even Sevilla weren't interested in him after a hopeless spell on loan. Surely by now enough is enough.I'd have no problem with Martial being released, and let's say he is hypothetically and we buy a striker in the summer.
That's fine and all, but what happens when that striker is injured or suspended? We're going to have to rely on Rashford or worse yet - get a loan in.
Offering an existing striker a 1 year extension (let's assume we can reduced wages as well) wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, and it will allow some insurance in case our new striker does get injured etc.
It would be quite extraordinary not to get in the position he got today. The easiest goal he will score.It was a good center forward's goal from him today. Still seemed a little rusty but he does link our attack together even when he isn't at his best
Today Antony should have passed to him, another good run was when Casemiro hogged the ball and played the ball to Bruno too late. On another day he would have had 3 guilt edged chances to score. Whether its Kane or Osimhen our team will need to be smart with the ball.He’s just a poor striker. An occasional good performance shouldn’t hide the fact that today was fairly typical of what he’s produced these last few years. Lost all his physical battles, poor workrate, don’t think he made one tackle, didn’t win any headers, never threatened in behind and didn’t do much useful with the ball. We can do so much better. It’s tiresome watching mid to lower team sides with strikers that do more for the team, week in, week out.
He was still crap. Which was my main point and not something you can blame on any other players.Today Antony should have passed to him, another good run was when Casemiro hogged the ball and played the ball to Bruno too late. On another day he would have had 3 guilt edged chances to score. Whether its Kane or Osimhen our team will need to be smart with the ball.
I don't think we can afford to replace him and I think Ten Hag rates him. I expect him to be our #2 striker next year, along with Rashford (who will be first choice at LW, but Garnacho should get more chances there when Rashford is central).He knows hes being replaced in summer and is coasting
I see it too.He knows hes being replaced in summer and is coasting
There seemed to be a lot of this going on in that game. So many of our players just holding the ball too long or not executing a simple pass when it mattered.Today Antony should have passed to him, another good run was when Casemiro hogged the ball and played the ball to Bruno too late. On another day he would have had 3 guilt edged chances to score. Whether its Kane or Osimhen our team will need to be smart with the ball.
Given we can do it for free (no transfer fee) I think we will. If he stays he’ll be 3rd choiceI don't think we can afford to replace him and I think Ten Hag rates him. I expect him to be our #2 striker next year, along with Rashford (who will be first choice at LW, but Garnacho should get more chances there when Rashford is central).
Nah, he's been coasting for years now.He knows hes being replaced in summer and is coasting
Hes had good seasons when hes been trusted as the starter during that time. As soon as someone else is brought in he goes missing. Despite the injuries this season (when it looked like ETH had faith in him) he played well when fit. Since rumours surfaced hes on the list to be sold this summer his level has dropped significantly and it looks like its due to effort to meNah, he's been coasting for years now.
Nothing to do with being replaced, it all started when he signed that 250k a week, 5+1 year deal.
He's had 2, maybe 2 and a half really good seasons out of 8.Hes had good seasons when hes been trusted as the starter during that time. As soon as someone else is brought in he goes missing. Despite the injuries this season (when it looked like ETH had faith in him) he played well when fit. Since rumours surfaced hes on the list to be sold this summer his level has dropped significantly and it looks like its due to effort to me
Does not change the pointHe's had 2, maybe 2 and a half really good seasons out of 8.
He's done nothing of note for 3 years.
Yeh no doubt our best attach is Rashford, Martial, Antony at the moment.If he stays fit i wonder if he'll play the cup final? Got a good record against City if i remember correctly.
Kind of does.Does not change the point
Opinion at the start of the season, we can safely chalk this one up as another to add to the list.He's had occasional seasons of good form in what has overall been a mediocre Manchester United career from a mediocre Manchester United player.
Free agents still cost salaries though and Martial is on £250k. If he doesn’t move on this summer, it might be very difficult to sign 2 strikers ahead of him and still stay within FFP rules. We can hope, but it’s not guaranteed at all. I fully expect him to see out his contract and be number #2 in the meantime.Given we can do it for free (no transfer fee) I think we will. If he stays he’ll be 3rd choice
I think you underestimate ETH and the standards he’ll be demanding next season. No way he willingly relies on Martial as no2.Free agents still cost salaries though and Martial is on £250k. If he doesn’t move on this summer, it might be very difficult to sign 2 strikers ahead of him and still stay within FFP rules. We can hope, but it’s not guaranteed at all. I fully expect him to see out his contract and be number #2 in the meantime.
I think you underestimate the extent to which this might not be in ETH’s hands. If the club wishes to adhere to FFP and Martial does not accept leaving, ETH’s hands might well be tied.I think you underestimate ETH and the standards he’ll be demanding next season. No way he willingly relies on Martial as no2.
Kinda like Rashford really If he doesn’t score he doesn’t contribute much. I would say a typical Rashford performance.He was crap, and has been crap for the last few games.
But at least he scored a goal to somewhat mask the crapness - if he keeps doing that until the end of the season I'll be... happy?
If you did, you would be wrong.Kinda like Rashford really If he doesn’t score he doesn’t contribute much. I would say a typical Rashford performance.
If FFP is the only issue here then let martial go and use Rashford as the no 2 when needed. That way, we are making the squad slimmer for the benefit of countering FFP by focussing more on quality rather than quantity.I think you underestimate the extent to which this might not be in ETH’s hands. If the club wishes to adhere to FFP and Martial does not accept leaving, ETH’s hands might well be tied.
He's even got that terrible balance thing going on that you see in players who time catches up with. Was a real feature of Ronaldo in his return to United.I thought he was his usual rubbish self.
He looks so slow and immobile now, it's like he's in his late 30s.
