Isn't he a wing forward?
Antoine Semenyo
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Mediocre players for 65m. We've seen it all.
Would be a decent addition to the squad but considering his price, our budget etc. money would be better spent elsewhere.
Semenyo isn’t a 10 though and is no different to the issue raised about Garnacho or even Rashford in that role as they’re all wide players, with Cunha at least he actually plays and excels in the exact role needed to be upgraded in and if Cunha is cheaper than Semenyo it’s a no brainer and if Semenyo is to be bought then it simply has to be as an attacking right wing back.
I love Semenyo. But his one weak spot is a penchant for not finishing his chances. That is not a good fit, on a team struggling massively with that very thing.
I'm pretty sure his shooting stats are quite similar to Garnacho's. As in, lots of them, and of mostly poor quality
Those Liverpool signings were analytically driven. They knew them as well as they knew the big stars, and they bought them because they thought they were the best players they could get for their needs and within the budget they had. They didn't have some strategic preference for unknown players. The whole question is ridiculous and pointless. Know what you look for and find it, famous or not makes no difference.
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If it was a choice between him and Cunha, I'd take Cunha any day.
It would be very on brand for our exquisite transfer team to spend £70 million on a winger when we have just stopped playing with wingers for the first time (apart for fergie experimenting with the diamond) in about .... forever!
Semenyo doesn't look like a pure winger to me, I don't see why he shouldn't fit as a 10 in our formation (where the 10s, after all, are not really 10s in the 4231 sense). It's his finishing that worries me. Certainly at that price.
Yup.
Semenyo has filled in at no9 for Bournemouth this season. Wonder if that's why we are having a look due to his versatility?
As usual for Utd we are probably putting lists together for targets that are 3-4 players deep for all the positions we want to fill this summer.
I'm thinking he maybe a fallback if we can't get dibling or cherki.
As usual for Utd we are probably putting lists together for targets that are 3-4 players deep for all the positions we want to fill this summer.
I'm thinking he maybe a fallback if we can't get dibling or cherki.
We'll have nowhere near enough for fees like this. I doubt there's anything in it.
Imagine having a fallback option for Cherki who would cost 3x as much.
Seems like a player who has purple patches but is average most of the time. I would prefer Cunha.
Maybe we should pay off the debts and clear our interest then
Why would United be looking at him? Am I missing something? He has the most shots (113 when i saw some sky sports stats this morning) and only 8 goals to show for it.
All good sound advice sadly there's these blokes called the Glazers and ..............
Very average player, transfer fee massively inflated. Seems like our MO!
Please stay away, much better options at 10 and at WB that are significantly cheaper
Please stay away, much better options at 10 and at WB that are significantly cheaper
We've won the lot.
You've just made my point.
Definitely looks like more of a winger / wife attacker than a number 10, maybe he can convert, but we had loads of wingers/ wide attackers we were trying to convert when Amorim took over so seems completely mental (and therefore 100% in keeping with our transfer record) that we would spend around 70 million to try and convert another.
And yes finishing isn’t amazing either.
Good post, unfortunately people just assume that football clubs have a bottomless pit of money ( simlar to how most people feel about governments).
There attitude is spend 200 million if it doesn’t work out spend another 200 million thats doesn’t work out have a paddy till they spend another 200 million. What we haven’t signed anyone in 3 days and it’s a transfer window … have a paddy and demand more money being spent.
Blimey, little judgemental.
Id say he would be bought for the LWB spot.
I don't think his skills would translate to the wing back role and he isn't creative enough to be one of our tens.
I hope we steer clear.
I hope we steer clear.
I'd imagine Amorim will probably want more than 4 months coaching the LWB we just spent 30m on. Especially before replacing him with a player who's never played there.
United tax
Wife attacker is a bit harsh, surely?
I dont know enough about him, but he looks to have adapted quickly to the league and could be on the verge of being a consistent PL player.
Amorim talking about big signings not being obvious but beneficial for the team might allude to tracking specific qualities which could make links to Semenyo realistic.
Amorim talking about big signings not being obvious but beneficial for the team might allude to tracking specific qualities which could make links to Semenyo realistic.
We’ve got one we paid a bit of money for (given our funding issues) and bought another prospect who comes.. this summer?
Not an exclusive United tax anymore.
City paid 100m for Grealish and 60m for Nunez.
Chelsea paid 100m for Caicedo, 60m for Cucurella, 60m for Lavia,
Arsenal paid 100m for Rice and 50m for White.
Spurs paid 60m or more twice for Solanke and Richarlison.
Teams now charge top dollar and the big six will happily pay it, it has become quite common in the last few years, I bet if any team looked at a good player like Gibbs-White or Rogers, they be quoted 60m at least, and I bet Wolves would have asked for 75 or more for Cunha if he didn't have a release clause.
Realistic take. Hopefully the new recruitment team can set a precedent to negotiate hard. They seem to like getting the value down to a value that wont harm us if the transfer doesnt prove successful.
Agreed, INEOS are trying their best to get the best possible deals which is a good thing, won't be easy but it's something I appreciate, and I'd rather we get more players that did well in the PL, not saying non PL players aren't good, just that we need to get a bit more from the PL, and it's not like players in Europe are cheap, Sancho, Antony and Hojlund for example cost us close to 200m, and they are all shit, so I'd rather we spend that money on someone who hacked it in the PL for a bit, obviously it's par for the course that we get a crooked one when we shop in the PL (Mount), we just unlucky ok that one, but we should be looking at players like Delap, Cunha and even Semenyo, their experience in the PL might make it easier for them to assimilate quicker.
Am I missing something here?
Hesm’s not a striker and if you’re not familiar with Semenyo then you likely don’t watch a lot of prem football
I agree and would like to see us shop more in the PL. Seems like judgement has been placed based on Wan Bissaka failing, but if we follow a more robust criteria we should be ok.
1. Negotiate a fee that after 1yrs amortization would reflect players value if a fail.
2. Minimum of 2 yrs high level PL output.
3. Decent age.
This rules out Delap, but maybe an exception if the price is cheap and inline with #1
Early contender for typo of the year!
100%.
hopefully the recruitment team with Wilcox and Vivell will be able to find good options from the PL.
Ironically you've agreed with my entire point while attempting to make out that you're refuting it. It's clearly gone over your head somehow.
The exact signings that we need to be making need to be analytically driven and not NAME driven. Our fans are largely only interested in names they've heard of, if they haven't heard of them, the general consensus becomes "Who is this player? This is not the type of player that Manchester United should be signing etc". If you haven't seen our fans come out with statements like this en masse then I don't know what to tell you, apart from asking you to leave the rock which you've been hiding under. Even in this thread the same spiel is being spun, it's painful to read.
We are not that club currently. Yes we are and always will be 'Manchester United' but currently, as it stands, we need to try a different approach with our signings and sign talented young players with a bright spark/future ahead of them, as opposed to internationally known, world class players. INEOS share the same sentiment as myself, and it's proven in quite literally ALL of their signings so far, with possibly the slight exception of MdL.