Antoine Semenyo

Pretty much confirms he’s an Arsenal fan here and definitely does not see himself as WB like people in here keep suggesting.

Arsenal makes a tonne of sense too in terms of what they need, as I struggle to see them going for Nico Williams due to his wages personally.



He mostly plays right wing which is Saka's position. He can play on the left, but as we've seen with wingers weve signed they are usually playing there for a reason and are much better on that side.

I think Chelsea, Villa and Newcastle are more his level
 
Makes zero sense unless he’s coming in to play as an attacking right wing back and we’re going down the PL proven route rather than taking a chance on Frimpong who whilst looking great in his career he has excelled in Scotland and Germany rather than the PL.
 
Mbuemo has been excellent for about 3 seasons. Not sure why you have issues thinking he can replicate.

The two previous seasons he scored six and eight from open play. Both numbers in accordance with his npxg-stats. He is consistently in the 0,2-0,3 range for npxg. In other words, you would expect around 6 to 9 goals from open play from him. Not 13.
 
The two previous seasons he scored six and eight from open play. Both numbers in accordance with his npxg-stats. He is consistently in the 0,2-0,3 range for npxg. In other words, you would expect around 6 to 9 goals from open play from him. Not 13.
Or he scores more when hes relied upon more with Toney sold. What he has been last season and this is one of the best and mkst consistent attacking players outside of the top 6 clubs
 
I genuinely think this link is horse shit. I just don't see where he fits in for the price.
 
I hope we can convince him to sign and play RWB. He has all the tools and physicality to excel in that position.
 
I do wonder if Hudson-Odoi and Semenyo links could be our attempts at trying to convert a winger to a wing-back.

I've no idea what our actual plan is in terms of wingbacks, we currently have zero wing backs who offer an acceptable level of attacking threat. If we go into next season in that same situation I'm not sure how we can expect to score goals.

The whole strategic shift towards 3 at the back is a much bigger deal than I think the fans will admit, in terms of complexity of recruitment and squad building.
 
I do wonder if Hudson-Odoi and Semenyo links could be our attempts at trying to convert a winger to a wing-back.

I've no idea what our actual plan is in terms of wingbacks, we currently have zero wing backs who offer an acceptable level of attacking threat. If we go into next season in that same situation I'm not sure how we can expect to score goals.

The whole strategic shift towards 3 at the back is a much bigger deal than I think the fans will admit, in terms of complexity of recruitment and squad building.
We have Amad so its not zero. I would imagine someone like Semenyo could play at wing back
 
We have Amad so its not zero. I would imagine someone like Semenyo could play at wing back
True but I think Amorim increasingly will just see him as an occasional option there in much easier games and when we're chasing a goal. From what we've seen I doubt Amorim thinks that's his regular position.
 
True but I think Amorim increasingly will just see him as an occasional option there in much easier games and when we're chasing a goal. From what we've seen I doubt Amorim thinks that's his regular position.
From what we have seen its highly likely it may be. Consider the fact hes only been playing as a 10 when options there became scarce and his goals and assists have mainly come playing RWB
 
Makes zero sense unless he’s coming in to play as an attacking right wing back and we’re going down the PL proven route rather than taking a chance on Frimpong who whilst looking great in his career he has excelled in Scotland and Germany rather than the PL.
I mean there's one thing bidding for Frimpong and another if he accepts coming here. If he had a pick between EPL Champions Liverpool, who have a pretty good Dutch contingent too or 17th place United, the choice is very easy.
 
I do wonder if Hudson-Odoi and Semenyo links could be our attempts at trying to convert a winger to a wing-back.

I've no idea what our actual plan is in terms of wingbacks, we currently have zero wing backs who offer an acceptable level of attacking threat. If we go into next season in that same situation I'm not sure how we can expect to score goals.

The whole strategic shift towards 3 at the back is a much bigger deal than I think the fans will admit, in terms of complexity of recruitment and squad building.
Would make zero sense as neither would be interested in doing so. Hudson-Odoi especially would be a fecking bizarre idea. They're both going to be 10 options for me, because they are both good at cutting in and shooting.
 
This is woke nonsense, women can't come into our sport and take a man's job, brexit was supposed to stop this stuff! I don't care what bloody chromosomes they have, I'm not having it.
 
Semenyo's good at taking on an opponent and either shooting or getting to the byline to cross.

Sort of like Saka if you ask me, but not with as much finesse. Semenyo often has a lot of direct output/involvement, which we direly need.

He could be a great wing back I think. If he can do the defensive part too, that is. Cunha should be the obvious left 10. Garnacho's gone if we sign both.
 
This is woke nonsense, women can't come into our sport and take a man's job, brexit was supposed to stop this stuff! I don't care what bloody chromosomes they have, I'm not having it.
Chromosomes? The boy got semen, yo
 
Semenyo's good at taking on an opponent and either shooting or getting to the byline to cross.

Sort of like Saka if you ask me, but not with as much finesse. Semenyo often has a lot of direct output/involvement, which we direly need.

He could be a great wing back I think. If he can do the defensive part too, that is. Cunha should be the obvious left 10. Garnacho's gone if we sign both.
He's got that stealth press Amad has too, where he's on the ball carrier out of nowhere in a flash. Think he wins the ball high a lot.
 
I’m not sold on either him or Mbeumo being worth anything like the 60-70m fees being discussed.

Both have done well the last two seasons and we are desperate for attackers but I’m not convinced they join and kick on in the way someone like Mane did at Liverpool. I see them more as players who really suit their current teams and way of playing and might regress elsewhere.
I understand the appeal from signing players proven in the premier league, albeit in very specific systems. I’m a bit surprised at how much it’s going to cost considering our financial position, I thought the whole point was that we were going to looking at getting these players before they came to the premier league.
 
I understand the appeal from signing players proven in the premier league, albeit in very specific systems. I’m a bit surprised at how much it’s going to cost considering our financial position, I thought the whole point was that we were going to looking at getting these players before they came to the premier league.
I think for the 10s though, we have to replace Rashford, Antony and improve on Garnacho and maybe Eriksen if you classify him as such. You do at least need to replace the first two with people who are proven in the league and then after that aim for the precosious talents or under the radar signings.
 
I mean there's one thing bidding for Frimpong and another if he accepts coming here. If he had a pick between EPL Champions Liverpool, who have a pretty good Dutch contingent too or 17th place United, the choice is very easy.
No questioning the logical choice as things stand but that wasn’t in my thinking though, I’d rather go the PL proven route over someone who’s looked great in Germany especially seeing as we’ve been burnt so many times with signings that looked great in Germany.

It’s well documented we lack physicality so Semenyo would be a better attacking right wing back in that regard for us than Frimpong although it’ll cost us a bit more to sign Semenyo than Frimpong seeing as Frimpong has a £35 million release clause in his contract.
 
No questioning the logical choice as things stand but that wasn’t in my thinking though, I’d rather go the PL proven route over someone who’s looked great in Germany especially seeing as we’ve been burnt so many times with signings that looked great in Germany.

It’s well documented we lack physicality so Semenyo would be a better attacking right wing back in that regard for us than Frimpong although it’ll cost us a bit more to sign Semenyo than Frimpong seeing as Frimpong has a £35 million release clause in his contract.
Well I would favor position-proven over league-proven in this case. Even though Frimpong wouldn't come to us, I think we should have prioritized him as he is the most logical RWB signing out there. But now it's too late. I'd still be looking for a proper RWB over Semenyo.
 
Well I would favor position-proven over league-proven in this case. Even though Frimpong wouldn't come to us, I think we should have prioritized him as he is the most logical RWB signing out there. But now it's too late. I'd still be looking for a proper RWB over Semenyo.
Most wing backs started as full backs yet most on here have been crying out for an attack minded wing back and more so a winger than can be converted like a modern day Valencia, for that reason a right footed winger who’s PL proven and solid defensively would surely be the way to go no ?

Also when everyone is crying out for more physicality in the team surely being PL proven and more physical should make Semenyo a great alternative to Frimpong and maybe a better fit for what Amorim wants to implement, it’s no secret that I think Amorim will be gone by Christmas but if we’re giving him til then I guess we have to at least back him with players to fit his system.
 
I think that if we sign him it’ll be for the RWB position. He has all the tools needed for that position.
They supposedly want £60m+ for him. Do you really think we should pay that for a guy who's never played RWB before?

I think Semenyo is a good player, but if you look at his stats he's basically a bigger version of Garnacho. He's 5 years older as well.

I think the signing fits in with this idea of making sure we sign players who could play in another formation should Amorim ultimately fall short, so I wouldn't be totally against. There are probably better options out there for what we need now though, and for less money.
 
They supposedly want £60m+ for him. Do you really think we should pay that for a guy who's never played RWB before?

I think Semenyo is a good player, but if you look at his stats he's basically a bigger version of Garnacho. He's 5 years older as well.

I think the signing fits in with this idea of making sure we sign players who could play in another formation should Amorim ultimately fall short, so I wouldn't be totally against. There are probably better options out there for what we need now though, and for less money.
this. I think we need to sign a proper CM for that amount of money. Or split it into a CM and a GK.
 
I understand the appeal from signing players proven in the premier league, albeit in very specific systems. I’m a bit surprised at how much it’s going to cost considering our financial position, I thought the whole point was that we were going to looking at getting these players before they came to the premier league.

We have to find a balance as the ‘proven in the league’ idea is often a fallacy. Semenyo is very raw and 60m plus for him is pretty ridiculous, as you say these are exactly the type of players we need to pick up for a lot less money.

To me the ceiling is 40m for a player like this and if Bournemouth want more you move on, I’d also hate to see us sell Garnacho and then spend more than that on Semenyo.
 
this. I think we need to sign a proper CM for that amount of money. Or split it into a CM and a GK.
Problem is with that I have only see us linked strongly with Ederson or V Milinkovic-Savic, bit worrying there doesn't appear to be other targets isn't it
 
Problem is with that I have only see us linked strongly with Ederson or V Milinkovic-Savic, bit worrying there doesn't appear to be other targets isn't it
Yea especially the CM position is a bit worrying. As for GKs we've been linked with several names such as Lammens, M.-Savic, Trafford (loosely), Chevalier (loosely) and Joan Garcia (also linked with several other clubs)...
 
Yea especially the CM position is a bit worrying. As for GKs we've been linked with several names such as Lammens, M.-Savic, Trafford (loosely), Chevalier (loosely) and Joan Garcia (also linked with several other clubs)...
Actually yeah there are a few more GK links, however CM situation there looks to be too much tunnel vision on Ederson which is never a good thing.
 
One thing that put me off was that I thought he'd be going to the Afcon in December, however Ghana have somehow failed to qualify!
 
I think that if we sign him it’ll be for the RWB position. He has all the tools needed for that position.

Aside from the back part

He has no experience playing as a wingback or a fullback. He has actually played most games in his career as a striker
 
I do like how the solution to us getting bullied by the rest of the league looks like it might be to just sign some of the players that are doing it to us from other Premier League clubs. So simple but makes complete sense.

Think of how much Semenyo, Cunha and Delap would improve our physicality.
 
I do like how the solution to us getting bullied by the rest of the league looks like it might be to just sign some of the players that are doing it to us from other Premier League clubs. So simple but makes complete sense.

Think of how much Semenyo, Cunha and Delap would improve our physicality.
Semenyo and Cunha is a big physical upgrade on all of our 10s, Amad, Garnacho and Bruno (assuming he plays deeper).

But is Delap much of a physical upgrade on Hojlund? Hopefully, if we sign him, an upgrade. But not much of a physical upgrade.
 
Semenyo and Cunha is a big physical upgrade on all of our 10s, Amad, Garnacho and Bruno (assuming he plays deeper).

But is Delap much of a physical upgrade on Hojlund? Hopefully, if we sign him, an upgrade. But not much of a physical upgrade.
Osimhen is your physical upgrade, sadly it seems he's a money grabbing Saudi mercenary
 
Semenyo and Cunha is a big physical upgrade on all of our 10s, Amad, Garnacho and Bruno (assuming he plays deeper).

But is Delap much of a physical upgrade on Hojlund? Hopefully, if we sign him, an upgrade. But not much of a physical upgrade.
He doesn't seem to have frying pans for feet, but probably not as fast.
 
Aside from the back part

He has no experience playing as a wingback or a fullback. He has actually played most games in his career as a striker
I genuinely find it utterly bizarre people keep parroting the wingback conversion. Why woud you not just buy an actual wingback if that's what you want?