Yeah so fecking frustrating
Antony | Betis player
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Just tell betis to feck off. Saudi window shuts after ours, give Antony the decision to make, Saudi or rot in the reserves
Yet Andy Carroll the 2nd gets a 50 mil move to Saudi
Yep teams seem to bend over backwards signing players from Pool and Chelsea it’s scandalous.
Of all the bomb squad, I dislike him the most. We signed him for record fees, we gave him the best chance to succeed, there wasn't any fall out. Is not like we froze him, refuse to play him. He had his legal issues and we welcome him back when he was cleared. I don't understand this behavior from him if he is essentially depriving the club of any transfer fee by holding out for Betis on loan.
I can understand Sancho or Garnacho burning bridges with us but not him. I would reject any loan deals and table those that has a transfer fee to him and let him if he rejects any of them then we will keep him until Jan and we can revisit again. I'm sure whatever fee we ultimately sell him for in June is much more than what loan fee or wage coverage that Betis offer us now.
Someone mentioned Saudi window shuts after ours, so even better. We should probably reject any loan deals out of hand immediately and just wait for the Saudi window.
I can understand Sancho or Garnacho burning bridges with us but not him. I would reject any loan deals and table those that has a transfer fee to him and let him if he rejects any of them then we will keep him until Jan and we can revisit again. I'm sure whatever fee we ultimately sell him for in June is much more than what loan fee or wage coverage that Betis offer us now.
Someone mentioned Saudi window shuts after ours, so even better. We should probably reject any loan deals out of hand immediately and just wait for the Saudi window.
The asking price isn’t a loan with an option to buy so no none of them are willing to meet the asking price
How many clubs have asked our rivals for a loan with obligation deal? It seems like they're able to sell off nobodies with about as much PL experience as I have for at least £25-30million.
Other clubs take us for mugs, I really hope we put our foot down for once, even if it means we keep these players in the reserves out of principle. Galatasaray in particular can do one - they've spent 75mil on Osimhen and given him a 300k a week contract.
Other clubs take us for mugs, I really hope we put our foot down for once, even if it means we keep these players in the reserves out of principle. Galatasaray in particular can do one - they've spent 75mil on Osimhen and given him a 300k a week contract.
This, I can't stand him and his face. I disliked him even before we signed, you can se he's a cnut. If he wasn't clubs would be lining up.
We spent over £80m to secure Antony in a race against ourselves, so of course they do.
If you spend a decade sleeping with everyone in your town, you can’t just announce that you’re now celibate and expect everyone to immediately stop treating you like a sl*g. Reputations take a while to reform, ours is (quite rightly, thanks to Woodward and co) one being absolute chumps.
Well, Yes. He had a good spell at Betis and was a phenomenal at Ajax. The potential is still there for any semi-big club. He might have been trash for us, but he can be a very good player for almost any club outside England really.
In this marker I wouldn't sell him for less than €40m. His agent needs to work his ass off to get us that offer before the end of the month.
I am not sure if there has been any real interest for him from any club outside Betis and now the Turkish. None in the PL will buy him. In La Liga, none outside the top 3/4 clubs can afford his fee and wages.
We even have transfer sagas when it comes to selling players. Please make it stop.
People generally don't choose their next job based on what would most benefit their current employer.
No they don't but people generally don't burn bridges too. Ronaldo wanted to leave but he make sure we gotten a transfer fee for him. Mbeumo wanted to join but didn't kick up a fuss and so we have to pay a fair fee for him just 2 examples off the top of my head.
His agent needs to work a bit harder to drum up interest if it is only Betis that wants him.
He was never phenomenal for Ajax.
He’s a £20-30m player, and has always been that sort of level.
Can’t wait for him to leave. Should not be on loan, id rather keep him and show clubs we won’t be bent over.
Agreed, I would actually say his spell at Betis is the best he’s looked in his career.
Right. Let's believe we all didn't watch Anthony's highlights when he came here and many didn't think we'd signed a new superstar. Hindsight 20/20.
To be fair many said they were never impressed with his highlights from memory.
I thought his last season at Ajax was very great and he was productive over his last two seasons too if you looked a bit deeper into his stats.
Been a huge disappointment here.
Since we aren't getting Baleba anyway I would have no problem letting him rot in the stands for the entire season if he decides to no accept going to a club that actually pays money for him
Not from my memory. He completely outdribbled teams in tight spaces with very brazilian moves just before coming here, having most on here believing we'd signed a great player.
Seriously. He was compared, and rightly so to Gapko, that was the level he was at.
Show me anyone who thought he was phenomenal at Ajax - because that’s simple false. Potential, maybe that can be argued, and a player looking for the next step up, yes. Are you actually saying you thought he was phenomenal at Ajax? Because that’s simple false for me would say he was one of the very best players in the league, and ripping it up in Europe?
No, one thought he would be the car crash that he was, but also people didn’t think he was going to be a superstar. An extreme overpay for a player that fit ETHs ‘philosophy’.
Just a really bad signing not just for footballing reasons but financial too, i don't mind him as much as
Sancho for example, i think he will leave at the end of the window and won't be content with just sitting around collecting money.
Sancho for example, i think he will leave at the end of the window and won't be content with just sitting around collecting money.
You do realize expectations come from a player having performed to a high level when buying them, right?
Easy: His thread when signing shows everyone (probably over 90%) getting really excited about him. Everyone thought he was a great buy (indirectly saying that he's a great buy because he did really well at Ajax).
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/antony-official-manchester-united-player.472751/
"Some outrageous bits of skill in his highlights comp."
"His dribbling is all fine and dandy but what I like is his end ball is really great most of the time, good stuff."
"His dribbling is impressive but his passing/crossing/link up is also excellent, think him and sancho will be good together"
"Prepare for Salah numbers"
"Don’t know how it turns out, but this is the most exciting player we’ve signed in a long, long time. So pumped."
"Welcome future Ballon d'Or
""Superb signing"
"Welcome! I think he's going to be fantastic on the wing for us. The talent and trickery is so rare these days"
He will go, his wage isn't insane and he shown towards the back end of last season he can perform. The only issue is the clubs that want him don't really spend the sort of money we want so they are taking it to the wire so we are desperate.
Seriously the day Sancho and Antony leave us will give me so much joy.
I want a new washing machine from Curry’s. Think I’ll go for the buy now pay in 12 months…and then just return the bloody thing after 12 months because it’s useless and not pay a penny. Think they’ll go for that right??……right!!
Not everyone. @Yagami with some spot-on analysis in that thread.You do realize expectations come from a player having performed to a high level when buying them, right?
Easy: His thread when signing shows everyone (probably over 90%) getting really excited about him. Everyone thought he was a great buy (indirectly saying that he's a great buy because he did really well at Ajax).
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/antony-official-manchester-united-player.472751/
"Some outrageous bits of skill in his highlights comp."
"His dribbling is all fine and dandy but what I like is his end ball is really great most of the time, good stuff."
"His dribbling is impressive but his passing/crossing/link up is also excellent, think him and sancho will be good together"
"Prepare for Salah numbers"
"Don’t know how it turns out, but this is the most exciting player we’ve signed in a long, long time. So pumped."
"Welcome future Ballon d'Or
"Superb signing"
"Welcome! I think he's going to be fantastic on the wing for us. The talent and trickery is so rare these days"
Plenty on here were concerned he was a memphis level talent, nothing more. He's stats in a poor league weren't that good and non of his showboating seemed productive.
People however thought as Ten hag knew him well there must be something there for us to spend that much on him
“Show Pony Tony is a Red“You do realize expectations come from a player having performed to a high level when buying them, right?
Easy: His thread when signing shows everyone (probably over 90%) getting really excited about him. Everyone thought he was a great buy (indirectly saying that he's a great buy because he did really well at Ajax).
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/antony-official-manchester-united-player.472751/
"Some outrageous bits of skill in his highlights comp."
"His dribbling is all fine and dandy but what I like is his end ball is really great most of the time, good stuff."
"His dribbling is impressive but his passing/crossing/link up is also excellent, think him and sancho will be good together"
"Prepare for Salah numbers"
"Don’t know how it turns out, but this is the most exciting player we’ve signed in a long, long time. So pumped."
"Welcome future Ballon d'Or
"Superb signing"
"Welcome! I think he's going to be fantastic on the wing for us. The talent and trickery is so rare these days"
“Ah crumbs...“
“The Brazilian Andros Townsend
“Possible line ups! Hmmm!
“Rashford - Martial - Sancho
Sancho - Rashford - Antony
Sancho - Martial - Antony
Rashford - Martial - Antony“
“My expectations for Antony are that he will be very similar to Sancho and perform at about the same level. So a creative player who sometimes will shine and sometimes disappear in the games.“
“Wasn't too impressed with what I've seen of him but hopefully he proves me wrong.“
“At that price he's a huge gamble, but hey!
50/50 on him kicking off from the start or flops/needs time to settle into this league.“
So yeah…
But back to my point, you said he was phenomenal as Ajax. I called you out on it, and you’ve done nothing to back that up.
So you showed 6 critiques, which out 3 first pages (40 posts each page) is about 5% of posters.
Come on, you have eyes. Look at the first 3 pages and say people weren’t excited. It’s 90% of posters who were excited/positive.
He did look phenomenal at Ajax. That’s why we bought him. Cant be that hard to understand. But if you want to bend those numbers for people in the minority to do some mindbending behaviour and convince yourself Anthony wasn’t a great prospect when we signed him, you do you.
Come on, you have eyes. Look at the first 3 pages and say people weren’t excited. It’s 90% of posters who were excited/positive.
He did look phenomenal at Ajax. That’s why we bought him. Cant be that hard to understand. But if you want to bend those numbers for people in the minority to do some mindbending behaviour and convince yourself Anthony wasn’t a great prospect when we signed him, you do you.
He was good at Ajax and had a hype around him but wasn't considered a sure shot, i think people were more excited with the early optimism with ETH and the fact that he worked well with Antony before.
Always been the case. I can actually understand it in situations like these where we've signed players for big money and on big wages, but we've even had protracted sagas for players like Dean Henderson, Elanga and now Garnacho. All of them should've been relatively simple sales.
If nobody pays the money, I'd take him back. It's not like he can't be arsed like Sancho. He had a good loan spell, got some confidence back, give him a go at left wing back.
If Betis or whoever won't give us any money after his last very successful loan spell, there's no point sending him on another one.
I think we could use him instead of Dalot. Problem is (1) his mindset is on Betis, and he sounded like he’s indisposed psychologically to play for this club again, and (2) PL defenders are his kryptonite.
And the only reason a lot of people preferred him to Gakpo was because we were in need of a right winger. His attacking stats for the Eredivisie were not impressive at all.
Dalot isn't going anywhere . Mostly he would be our next captain if Ruben is still here next season.
So taking Antony back for Dalot isn't an option but if Ruben is sacked, probably yes.
I didn’t say Dalot is going to leave. I said we could use him instead of Dalot as RWB.
Left footed wallflower Antony as a RWB??? Come on.
Mazraoui and Amad are probably also in contention. The best case argument for Antony to return would be if Mbeumo or Amad get injured. Personally, of all the players frozen out, I would take Antony back if we can't find a deal with another club. He has proven himself at Betis, so I could see Ruben giving him a chance.
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