Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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:lol: Come on. You want a winger with no pace just because he's cheap?
Antony won't be much better tbh. He's got fast top speed like Sancho which is useful when there's space, but his dribbling in tight areas is languid, he doesn't have the same acceleration that someone like Dembele or Mane has. Given that we face tighter defences and the defenders are a lot better in the PL I don't think he'd fare much better than Ziyech has.
 

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:lol: Come on. You want a winger with no pace just because he's cheap?
Ziyech is a number 10 by nature. That is his best position to be honest. But ya, he can also play as an inverted winger.

10 m for Ziyech is a better buy imo. Much better price / quality ratio.
Antony has the potential to become world class. But he isn't there yet.
If Antony leaves. Hopefully Ajax will buy Ziyech as a replacement
 

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The past 3 days have been :drool: from the club.
It's like someone in my team who does absolutely feck all for almost a month, then he gets a kick up the arse and delivers something monumentally good that makes the bosses happy. Then they go back to spending their entire day on redcafe.net oh shit wait...
 

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100M euros for an eredivisie player :lol:
This truly is the silliest of silly seasons.
 

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100m :nervous: :nervous:

We either look really good or really stupid with this deal.

The only possible universe in which this makes sense is if Ronaldo's leaving resulting in a bunch of freed up wages.
 

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:lol: Come on. You want a winger with no pace just because he's cheap?
Ziyech is classy player, imo. Look, it is not my money and shit like that but 80+ mil for Antony just looks wrong.
Despite i like that player a lot. But of course Antony for 80mil 》 nobody. feck it, we need another forward asap
 

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You’re not making sense; whatever way we qualify, it would be on us to capitalise upon in it - as far as the contract clauses, it would be partially fulfilled and a portion of the bonus money then goes their way.

Our priority is getting back to being a top 4 side - it’s worth a fortune for us financially as well as in terms of appeal to sponsors and top tier players alike.
It's highly speculative but for example being good enough this season can mean Bellingham next summer or a similar player putting us at the top of his desired destination. Our short term action can and will help or erase our long term options.
 

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Ziyech is a number 10 by nature. That is his best position to be honest. But ya, he can also play as an inverted winger.

10 m for Ziyech is a better buy imo. Much better price / quality ratio.
Antony has the potential to become world class. But he isn't there yet.
If Antony leaves. Hopefully Ajax will buy Ziyech as a replacement
Hasnt Ziyech already proven he doesnt cut it in the prem though?
 

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who is he a huge huge upgrade on? remember Sancho was supposedly Neymar in Germany and looks an average winger in the premier league. Its not easy to be effective here at a high output consistently
IMO Sancho will be brilliant once he has a fluid attacking system and I think ETH will bring it out in him. United need attacking full backs, but with the right players, Antony and Sancho will be devastating they play with their head up.

I think it's time to ship out Rashford though.
 

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Ziyech is a number 10 by nature. That is his best position to be honest. But ya, he can also play as an inverted winger.

10 m for Ziyech is a better buy imo. Much better price / quality ratio.
Antony has the potential to become world class. But he isn't there yet.
If Antony leaves. Hopefully Ajax will buy Ziyech as a replacement
Why should we care about quality/price ratio? We're footy fans not accountants. Surely we want the best we can get
 

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100m :nervous: :nervous:

We either look really good or really stupid with this deal.

The only possible universe in which this makes sense is if Ronaldo's leaving resulting in a bunch of freed up wages.
He'd have to be the next big thing for a 100M deal to look good.

I'm not complaining mind, love the type of player Antony is and our transfer activity is quite entertaining.
 

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Why should we care about quality/price ratio? We're footy fans not accountants. Surely we want the best we can get
Because the club doesn't have unlimited funds and overspending on one area could prevent us from strengthening elsewhere.
 

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Ziyech is a number 10 by nature. That is his best position to be honest. But ya, he can also play as an inverted winger.

10 m for Ziyech is a better buy imo. Much better price / quality ratio.
Antony has the potential to become world class. But he isn't there yet.
If Antony leaves. Hopefully Ajax will buy Ziyech as a replacement
I agree but not the right fit for United. We desperately need a guy that can run with the ball. Too many chiefs (Bruno, Eriksen, Sancho) and not enough Indians (Antony).
 

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100m :nervous: :nervous:

We either look really good or really stupid with this deal.

The only possible universe in which this makes sense is if Ronaldo's leaving resulting in a bunch of freed up wages.
There is no way we look "really good". This is a panic buy cause we are shit and desperate. Seriously 100 fecking million?
 

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Excited but 100m is madness isn't it.

For that money you want a Salah/Son type of impact on the squad.
 

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IMO Sancho will be brilliant once he has a fluid attacking system and I think ETH will bring it out in him. United need attacking full backs, but with the right players, Antony and Sancho will be devastating they play with their head up.

I think it's time to ship out Rashford though.
He'll fulfill Oles dreams and play at CF. I think Ronaldo will leave, there's no way we're doing 100m for Antony with Ronnie still around.
 

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Because the club doesn't have unlimited funds and overspending on one area could prevent us from strengthening elsewhere.
Pretty sure the club are clever enough to figure out the numbers of what we can and can't afford, and prioritise players based on that. Doesn't require randoms on the internet to get their calculator out
 

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The problem is we've already had a garbage start and are in panic stations. Backing him properly would've been getting this done 2 months ago. Getting casemiro 2 months ago. Getting rid of Ronaldo if that's what EtH wants and not blocking his exit like what is reported.

Timing is very important, especially given how stacked the first few months of this season are. But anyway, long term it doesn't matter, but for immediate impact it does.
Also the main gripe with the Glazers is not that they don't spend money ( which is the club's money anyway) but that they appoint the wrong people at all levels to spend it and make major footballing decisions.
 

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Why should we care about quality/price ratio? We're footy fans not accountants. Surely we want the best we can get
We should not care but the club should. We have overpaid for shitload of players during the past 10 years or so and it got us nowhere. If we really pay £75m or so he better be really good, unlike our other recent £75m signing.
 

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Pretty sure the club are clever enough to figure out the numbers of what we can and can't afford, and prioritise players based on that. Doesn't require randoms on the internet to get their calculator out
What gives you the impression the club hierarchy knows what they're doing? They've hemorrhaged over a billion in the last 10 years.
 

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who is he a huge huge upgrade on? remember Sancho was supposedly Neymar in Germany and looks an average winger in the premier league. Its not easy to be effective here at a high output consistently
On the squad.. Competition for Rashford and Sancho.. On the options you have on the bench to bring in, regardless of who starts.. On Rashford in current form..

No matter how you put it.. Wingers are the players who you rotate the most and who are brought in during games the most.. Then having Antony as an option (either starter or bench option if Rashford/Sancho regain form) is a massive upgrade over Elanga (and to a lesser extent Garnacho who I think should be over Elanga in the pecking order now, perhaps even should start over Rashford next game)..

And I dont think Sancho his issues at United are to do with the Premier League as playing field, but the way United plays and have a plan in attack.. And I have high hopes Ten Hag will be able to improve on that to get more out of basically all our attacking players (though he needs time)
 

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Getting Rashford out the door is an even bigger priority than getting anyone else in. If we keep him to see if he can rediscover his form for yet another year, then we'll inevitably be left with a player who has 3 continuous years of conference level form behind him and getting him off the books will be a nightmare.

If PSG are interested for £50m or more this year, then he needs to be shipped out the second Antony signs on the dotted line.

Or better yet, see if PSG would be up for a swap deal with Hakimi
 

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Also the main gripe with the Glazers is not that they don't spend money ( which is the club's money anyway) but that they appoint the wrong people at all levels to spend it and make major footballing decisions.
They also approve us spending money on the wrong fecking players every fecking summer except last year when we got Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.
 

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We need a Antony v Nunez thread who will flop best :lol:

Absolutely insane money.
We’d get Son for €100 million if we went to Spurs with that offer
 

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Sancho and Antony could be part of the front line for years. Add a top class striker next summer and we could be set.
 

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Why should we care about quality/price ratio? We're footy fans not accountants. Surely we want the best we can get
Why shouldn't you spend 15k on a 5k car. You're a car fan not an accountant.
Ooooh, right - because you'll never get even half of your money back and you're stuck with an asset that no one wants on the ridiculous contract you've given him.

Why don't you buy a 15k car again the next year.
That's right - you can't because you've splunked stupidly your money last year.

Wan-Bissaka, Maguire? Seriously some people have short-term memory but come on...

Pretty sure the club are clever enough to figure out the numbers of what we can and can't afford, and prioritise players based on that. Doesn't require randoms on the internet to get their calculator out
You mean, arguably, the worst run football club right now, right?
 

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It's highly speculative but for example being good enough this season can mean Bellingham next summer or a similar player putting us at the top of his desired destination. Our short term action can and will help or erase our long term options.
Absolutely. And us looking resurgent - plus the financial packages we [still have to] offer - would be a new dawn for us. One you hope all the stupid, stupid mistakes and errors of the past are not part of.

You’ve got to look the part to even be in with a chance of these highly coveted starlets.
 

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Why shouldn't you spend 15k on a 5k car. You're a car fan not an accountant.
Ooooh, right - because you'll never get even half of your money back and you're stuck with an asset that no one wants on the ridiculous contract you've given him.

Why don't you buy a 15k car again the next year.
That's right - you can't because you've splunked stupidly your money last year.

Wan-Bissaka, Maguire? Seriously some people have short-term memory but come on...
But we have bought big after signing AWB and Maguire?
 

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Why shouldn't you spend 15k on a 5k car. You're a car fan not an accountant.
Ooooh, right - because you'll never get even half of your money back and you're stuck with an asset that no one wants on the ridiculous contract you've given him.

Why don't you buy a 15k car again the next year.
That's right - you can't because you've splunked stupidly your money last year.

Wan-Bissaka, Maguire? Seriously some people have short-term memory but come on...
Blows my mind that some posters continue to give the club the benefit of the doubt, after they've demonstrated for ten years that they have no idea what they're doing. As I said in another thread, memory of goldfish.
 

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We need a Antony v Nunez thread who will flop best :lol:

Absolutely insane money.
We’d get Son for €100 million if we went to Spurs with that offer
Son is 30, Antony is 22.

Son is obviously world class but we can't have an average age of 30 in our squad.
 
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