Antony (out)

Should we sell or keep Antony?

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Not sure why anyone would vote "keep" - he's obviously totally out of his depth in the Premier League and will thrive in a much slower league.

Fair play to him for making his loan move a success, he should be rewarded with a move elsewhere, and we should be rewarded with him not playing for us ever again.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Not sure why anyone would vote "keep" - he's obviously totally out of his depth in the Premier League and will thrive in a much slower league.

Fair play to him for making his loan move a success, he should be rewarded with a move elsewhere, and we should be rewarded with him not playing for us ever again.
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Yeah the one player who just got his head down so for that reason he deserves a move where he wants
 
ErikElevenHag said:
Scouts think lots of players will be good enough and they aren't.

Your eyes should tell you he was never good enough, it was clear from early on that he didn't have the skillset needed to succeed in the premier league.
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Hindsight's great isn't it
 
Out of all of those on the chopping block this summer (Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho etc), Antony is the one that I am most likely to want to try to re-introduce into the squad.

It’s mainly down to his work rate, but also the great season he has just had which took a lot of character.
 
Red in STL said:
Hindsight's great isn't it
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Yeah it is. Common sense is also great. Lots of people were screaming NO back when we were rumoured to brake the bank for Antony, his numbers were worse than David Neres and we were paying like we were buying the next Robben. Same arguments were pro antony that you call on today: ETH knows best, scouts know best, not my money etc.
 
Cee90 said:
Out of all of those on the chopping block this summer (Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho etc), Antony is the one that I am most likely to want to try to re-introduce into the squad.

It’s mainly down to his work rate, but also the great season he has just had which took a lot of character.
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And look at him in the final against Chelsea. Absolutely invisible again. PL too fast and too physical for him. End of. He offers nothing.
 
Gordon'sHill said:
And look at him in the final against Chelsea. Absolutely invisible again. PL too fast and too physical for him. End of. He offers nothing.
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He is a hard worker and seems to have a good attitude. But people are forgetting just how bad he was. And as you say, as soon as he faced a pl defender he looked like the Antony we know.
 
Cee90 said:
Out of all of those on the chopping block this summer (Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho etc), Antony is the one that I am most likely to want to try to re-introduce into the squad.

It’s mainly down to his work rate, but also the great season he has just had which took a lot of character.
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I would be interested to see if his form fell off because of his home/domestic issues. Or if it was just down the the Premier League being tougher than La Liga.

But either way, Mbeumo is a huge upgrade.
 
pascell said:
Betis are about to sell Rodriguez to Como for €21m + €6m, so I guess that'll be Antony heading to Betis soon.
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And Johnny Cardoso is heading to Atletico for €30m. Hopefullythey can stump up sufficient cash now.
 
What do we have to sell him for to not make a PSR loss? I can't imagine he fulfilled any of his add ons.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Nah, they’ll still plead poverty, just like every other club that shows an interest in our players.
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Yep, I guess this is the culmination of more then a decade of pandering to overpaid & underperforming players - coming home to roost! Look at how seamlessly (& for decent amounts) city and pool seem to shift fringe players - albeit obviously on much more reasonable wages.
 
Lash said:
What do we have to sell him for to not make a PSR loss? I can't imagine he fulfilled any of his add ons.
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It was reported earlier in the summer that the minimum price is 32.5M, presumably in Euros. Betis are very unlikely to be able to pay that but have been in touch regarding a deal structure that would see them pay a loan fee for next season with an unbreakable obligation to buy at the end of the loan. Antony has signaled a willingness to cut his salary to make it happen so I assume it is very likely that we do a deal around these parameters but we do of course have the prerogative of waiting to see if a better offer from another club comes in before the end of the window.
 
Gandalf said:
It was reported earlier in the summer that the minimum price is 32.5M, presumably in Euros. Betis are very unlikely to be able to pay that but have been in touch regarding a deal structure that would see them pay a loan fee for next season with an unbreakable obligation to buy at the end of the loan. Antony has signaled a willingness to cut his salary to make it happen so I assume it is very likely that we do a deal around these parameters but we do of course have the prerogative of waiting to see if a better offer from another club comes in before the end of the window.
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Could even do some PSR nonsense with them to make it happen. Shame they don't really have anyone we'd be interested in.

I like him to be honest, so would be nice for a player who clearly just wants to play, to get his desired move - unlike the other wasters.
 
The narrative killed him, i think if he moved for 30m instead of the insane 80m he would have had less pressure and done ok here as a rotation player.
 
If he’d played smarter, taking that shorter 30m run and picking his moments, he’d handle pressure better
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
The narrative killed him, i think if he moved for 30m instead of the insane 80m he would have had less pressure and done ok here as a rotation player.
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The physicality part killed him. The Chelsea final showed that quite clearly in contrast to his time at Betis.
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
The physicality part killed him. The Chelsea final showed that quite clearly in contrast to his time at Betis.
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He was double marked. Physicality wasn't his problem, he held his own very well. It was mainly decision making.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
The narrative killed him, i think if he moved for 30m instead of the insane 80m he would have had less pressure and done ok here as a rotation player.
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He wouldn’t have been a better player with a lower fee. He’s simply not suited to being a first team player in the PL.

Should not be spending £30m on a player that could only be a squad player at best.
 
Betis just sold their winger Jesus Rodriguez for 22m. I can think of a replacement they could use the funds on..
 
croadyman said:
Just watch them plead poverty and ask for loan again
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They have plenty of funds with them. We cannot be rinsed on both ends of the scale and have to get back to acceptable norms as far as selling goes.

It took a decade of bad transfers to get this reputation and will take just as long to get rid of it. If Betis keep pleading poverty inspite of being plush with funds , then we should simply accept another clubs bid and inform the player.
 
There is no way he goes on loan again. There does appear to be other clubs interested.

To his credit, Anthony prepared to take a pay cut. He wants Betis but they are gonna please poverty.

In the past we would just crumble and taken some shitty offer, now we need to stand firm on what we want until they meet it.
 
GoldanoGraham said:
There is no way he goes on loan again. There does appear to be other clubs interested.

To his credit, Anthony prepared to take a pay cut. He wants Betis but they are gonna please poverty.

In the past we would just crumble and taken some shitty offer, now we need to stand firm on what we want until they meet it.
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Problem is we need money to fund striker and CM
 
I thought the statement of their Sporting Director yesterday in relation to Antony was positive in comparison to previous statements

“We all have to be aware that this is a very complex operation,” Fajardo said, underlining the financial reality.

“Given the player’s level and his recent career at Real Betis, it’s not an easy transaction.

“But, as long as Antony hasn’t committed to a third party, we, with the utmost humility, will play our cards to be able to opt for Antony.”
 
Castia said:
They just signed a player for 20 odd million they can feck right off with a loan
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Roro Riquelme? They spent €9M for 50% of his rights, not 20. He is Jesus Rodriguez's replacement.
 
30m is peanuts. Cough up and we'll even put a nice little bow on him for you.
 
huyn said:
Roro Riquelme? They spent €9M for 50% of his rights, not 20. He is Jesus Rodriguez's replacement.
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Oh ok yeah my mistake I’ve misread the report I’ll delete the post
 
They will get €30m from Atletico for Johnny Cardoso. They shouldn't pretend to be poor.
 
Are Betis the only club remotely interested in him? Seems like people really did over hype his loan. 30m is next to nothing for someone who supposedly was doing amazing.
 
Frank White said:
Are Betis the only club remotely interested in him? Seems like people really did over hype his loan. 30m is next to nothing for someone who supposedly was doing amazing.
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30m is more than their record transfer, it's not next to nothing for a small club outside of England
 
Kostov said:
Yeah it is. Common sense is also great. Lots of people were screaming NO back when we were rumoured to brake the bank for Antony, his numbers were worse than David Neres and we were paying like we were buying the next Robben. Same arguments were pro antony that you call on today: ETH knows best, scouts know best, not my money etc.
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Agreed, and back then we had folks making posts like these:

Nani was quality for us, if Antony turn out to reach his peak, then we are having a top class player. Better than the rashfords and martials of the past 5 years.

Wonder who said that.
 
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