Antony | Real Betis player (€25 million fee, United to receive 50% of any future sale profits)

Ali Dia said:
Greenwood was good, lost his way at the club and had to leave

Antony was good before, lost his way at the club or in the league or both or however you want to put it. Now he's good again.

Sancho was the hottest young player on the market who everybody want us to sign. It's fair to say the league doesn't suit him, maybe he doesn't want to be a footballer anymore at all but the worst of whatever it is with him started when he came here.

I'm not bashing Utd. It's just a lot of waste. None seemed to be of the required mentality to make it here at this moment in time but more and more players are leaving here and doing quite well. That rarely happened under Fergie and certainly not in a cluster like we are seeing today.

I watch every single utd game or the replay if I miss it
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Greenwood “lost his way at the club”. It sounds like you’re trying to normalise what he did, poor greenwood he just lost his way. If only the club looked out for him a little.
No! He did what he did, feck all to do with losing his way at the club. He was regularly playing before he self imploded and showed his nature.

Anthony was never cut out for England. I did however appreciate that he always tried. Lack of pace really let him down.

Sancho always had question marks. Even when he was at city. Yet another to look a world beater in an easier league playing for a team with a well drilled system where he only had to feed the ball to Haaland.
He’s proven now at 3 other English teams that he can’t hack the pace of English football; nor do I think he was the motivation for it.
 
Its almost as if the PL has better defenders that require the use of both feet, greater speed, and better shot selection to navigate. Nah it can’t be that lets write another ABU article because this clown found his level elsewhere. His little jabs at us at every turn is so annoying especially after we allowed him to go to his preferred club with relative ease.
 
bgoodall said:
Its almost as if the PL has better defenders that require the use of both feet, greater speed, and better shot selection to navigate. Nah it can’t be that lets write another ABU article because this clown found his level elsewhere. His little jabs at us at every turn is so annoying especially after we allowed him to go to his preferred club with relative ease.
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Blaming United is a safe place for him to go. The only thing he could be critical of is us giving him too many games to play his way into form, so if he wanted more bench time maybe he should have asked for it.....
 
Certain players can only play in a certain league. Nothing new.

Shevchenko was really really good in Serie A but poor in EPL.

Mario Jardel was really good in Portuguese League but not elsewhere.

Ralphinha was decent in EPL but excellent in La Liga. Similar to Anthony

Some special players are just top class in any league they go. Arjen Robben in EPL, La Liga, Kane (EPL, Bundelisga).

Just happened that these players Sancho, Anthony could not acclimate to EPL and worsened further by a piss poor United side.
 
Longlivekeano said:
Certain players can only play in a certain league. Nothing new.

Shevchenko was really really good in Serie A but poor in EPL.

Mario Jardel was really good in Portuguese League but not elsewhere.

Ralphinha was decent in EPL but excellent in La Liga. Similar to Anthony

Some special players are just top class in any league they go. Arjen Robben in EPL, La Liga, Kane (EPL, Bundelisga).

Just happened that these players Sancho, Anthony could not acclimate to EPL and worsened further by a piss poor United side.
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Can’t cite Shevchenko there. He was properly world class, won a Balon d’Or, but he didn’t come to England til he was nearly 30 and his pace, which helped made him great, was going. If he’d played in England when he was 25, he’d have been brilliant.
 
Its all down to physicality and time on the ball. PL is simply too physical for a few players. Wirtz for now finding it tough, so is xavi simmons. It is also the reason we were playing better against european competition than PL . I hope he moves and gives us another 20 m that we should have got had he accepted other offers.
 
bgoodall said:
Its almost as if the PL has better defenders that require the use of both feet, greater speed, and better shot selection to navigate. Nah it can’t be that lets write another ABU article because this clown found his level elsewhere. His little jabs at us at every turn is so annoying especially after we allowed him to go to his preferred club with relative ease.
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Agreed. We have him the platform, he failed.

The idea that he “worked hard” is also just a cliche. Perhaps he should have worked on learning to use his right foot, and get some strength. We are seeing now, he’s an entitled wind bag, who just expected it to be easy. When it wasn’t, he didn’t run hard enough. He was able to sort out his teeth though. Priorities.
 
Maradona10 said:
Its all down to physicality and time on the ball. PL is simply too physical for a few players. Wirtz for now finding it tough, so is xavi simmons. It is also the reason we were playing better against european competition than PL . I hope he moves and gives us another 20 m that we should have got had he accepted other offers.
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Yeah that was so clear for anyone to see last season. We couldn't win one game for a long time (until last day vs Villa) but at same time got to Europa League final. Same for Spurs.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Agreed. We have him the platform, he failed.

The idea that he “worked hard” is also just a cliche. Perhaps he should have worked on learning to use his right foot, and get some strength. We are seeing now, he’s an entitled wind bag, who just expected it to be easy. When it wasn’t, he didn’t run hard enough. He was able to sort out his teeth though. Priorities.
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He “worked hard” in the sense that he’d track back and, despite being mainly rubbish, I never once thought he wasn’t trying his hardest unlike some other very expensive and ineffective wingers *cough* Sancho *cough*.

I think part of the problem is that he’s just a bit thick. Certain players just come across as a bit dense (Rojo another) so it’s natural they don’t develop and progress because they don’t learn. I did laugh at watching him receive a window-down, finger-jabbing dressing down from a white van man for a moronically stupid piece of driving by Dunham Crematorium.
 
Longlivekeano said:
Certain players can only play in a certain league. Nothing new.

Shevchenko was really really good in Serie A but poor in EPL.

Mario Jardel was really good in Portuguese League but not elsewhere.

Ralphinha was decent in EPL but excellent in La Liga. Similar to Anthony

Some special players are just top class in any league they go. Arjen Robben in EPL, La Liga, Kane (EPL, Bundelisga).

Just happened that these players Sancho, Anthony could not acclimate to EPL and worsened further by a piss poor United side.
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Ralphina Wiggins
 
Nearly all La Liga legends are South American.

South American people value the "feel at home" factor & throughout a career do better in Spain than somewhere in England.

It's arguably the same with British players, maybe except Bale - I'm not sure anyone was exactly a British La Liga Legend.

It's personally why I rate CR7 so highly.
If one player had to play football in Mars to save planet earth; then I'd pick the one who could survive in Planet Mars.
 
The Right Winger said:
Nearly all La Liga legends are South American.

South American people value the "feel at home" factor & throughout a career do better in Spain than somewhere in England.

It's arguably the same with British players, maybe except Bale - I'm not sure anyone was exactly a British La Liga Legend.

It's personally why I rate CR7 so highly.
If one player had to play football in Mars to save planet earth; then I'd pick the one who could survive in Planet Mars.
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I think I would caveat that by adding that until very recently the best South American players just didn’t come to England. It was either Serie A or La Liga, with Veron probably an exception to that rule. Tevez, Mascherano, Aguero were probably the first ones that set a bit more of a trend.
 
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Calidad said:
I think I would caveat that by adding that until very recently the best South American players just didn’t come to England. It was either Serie A or La Liga, with Veron probably an exception to that rule. Tevez, Mascherano, Aguero were probably the first ones that set a bit more of a trend.
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Ossie Ardiles, Ricky Villa, Mirandinha in the 70s/80s...
 
Oscar Bonavena said:
Were there many PL clubs clambering over themselves for Antony when we had him up for sale?
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Not a single one, because everyone could see he was not physically up to the challenge.

He was such a laughing stock, it would have been toxic for a PL club to even contemplate buying him.
 
Calidad said:
I think I would caveat that by adding that until very recently the best South American players just didn’t come to England. It was either Serie A or La Liga, with Veron probably an exception to that rule. Tevez, Mascherano, Aguero were probably the first ones that set a bit more of a trend.
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Valencia.
 
Dubai said:
No particular hate, I hope we end up with a nice fee but that's a decent finish, nothing more. Same logic with him, Rashford and Hojlund. If they can perform in another league and we get a fee, great...but it has no influence on how useless their contributions to Utd were.
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Antony is gone, permanently
 
Seeing him a full match against FC Utrecht now. He is still so unbelievably shit. He did get an assist though. Shoudl have been red carded for headbutting El Karouani in the first half
 
The Right Winger said:
Nearly all La Liga legends are South American.

South American people value the "feel at home" factor & throughout a career do better in Spain than somewhere in England.

It's arguably the same with British players, maybe except Bale - I'm not sure anyone was exactly a British La Liga Legend.

It's personally why I rate CR7 so highly.
If one player had to play football in Mars to save planet earth; then I'd pick the one who could survive in Planet Mars.
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It's true that South American players will value more life outside the pitch in countries whose lifestyle it's closer to what they are used too, yet South American players tend to adapt anywhere and have a way harder route than any Erupean based player for obvious reasons.

From Serie A, to La Liga, to the French League there are tons of players that did really good to great on all of them and some literally in all of them.

The English League was always more insular, it was never accostume to seek talent in SA and also in the past the Clubs with a bigger financial were in other Leagues, but from the ones that went to the Islands in recent times, they are all quite journeyman alike, from Tevez, to Heinze, to even Aguero. I agree that at the end of the end of the day for most of them (even English lads), to live in Madrid, Barcelona or some cool Italian city would be more of a temptation than Liverpool, at times not just because of the city, but the short duration of days in winter periods and the pressure from the family to move on. But what CR7 did it's far from uncommon for lots of South American players since ever, from very old days, to recent times.
 
criticalanalysis said:




Atletico come on spend that £50m in the summer for him!
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Wtf is that keeper at?

What Jordi Cruyff said about his transfer on stick to football was interesting, that Barca opted for Raphinha because even if he bombed they could still sell him back to a PL team, where as Antony's fee was too high for a player coming from Holland and if he failed they'd never get their money back.
 
Another goal from outside the box, I doubt there is any footballer that scores goals such a big part of their goals from outside the box, quite bizarre.

Scored the winner vs Atletico, his other most recent goal was another goal from outside the box vs Feyenoord.

9 goals and 8 assists in 27 matches, normally that would be enough for a top team to come sniffing but I think most will be wary.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Another goal from outside the box, I doubt there is any footballer that scores goals such a big part of their goals from outside the box, quite bizarre.

Scored the winner vs Atletico, his other most recent goal was another goal from outside the box vs Feyenoord.

9 goals and 8 assists in 27 matches, normally that would be enough for a top team to come sniffing but I think most will be wary.
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He is a king in betis and wont wanna leave any way. PL teams wont go for him, there isnt much money with other teams.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Another goal from outside the box, I doubt there is any footballer that scores goals such a big part of their goals from outside the box, quite bizarre.

Scored the winner vs Atletico, his other most recent goal was another goal from outside the box vs Feyenoord.

9 goals and 8 assists in 27 matches, normally that would be enough for a top team to come sniffing but I think most will be wary.
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100% Atletico bound. A proven flat track bully in Liga to keep them comfortably 3rd, what’s not to like?
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
100% Atletico bound. A proven flat track bully in Liga to keep them comfortably 3rd, what’s not to like?
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I hope so, for some extra money.

Bayern has been always interested according to reports as well, they were interested when he was at Ajax and were interested this summer. But with the emergence of Karl and presence of Olise that will never happen.

Atletico or Serie A seem like the only options but Serie A teams are broke.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
He’s surely worth a £50m punt.
Strand Larson went for £50m ffs.
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Well he isn't coming back to the Premiership, so £50 million seems very unlikely for him unless Real Madrid or Barca want him, which also seems very unlikely.

He's found his level again, and should just stay put imo.
 
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