It's the risk of keeping a (seemingly) clearly unhappy player I don't get.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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It's a strange one as he agreed to a long contract (2025 I think I read it runs out) so if he had aspirations of moving on eventually, why agree to such a contract?
Personally think contracts are meaningless these days. Just there to protect the value of an asset.
I agree, players will run them down more and more in the next couple of years. Which I hope happens, as it'll only bring prices down as clubs will have to sell.
Yes I agree if he can play there, I thought he was more of a CB though?
Because he’s at a club renowned for letting players move on to the next stage when ready and he will have signed under those pretences. 80m is an absurd fee and he has every right to kick up a fuss about it - it’s a brilliant opportunity for him.
He will kick up a fuzz and will join us eventually.
How about us getting him with a discount in January?
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So we have to pay nearly £70m for Antony but Bayern paid £20m for Gravenberch? 
I think gravenberch only had a year left on his contract.So we have to pay nearly £70m for Antony but Bayern paid £20m for Gravenberch?
I also think Antony is the far more exciting and established player at the moment. Passes the eye test and ajax genuinely dont want to sell him. Not surprised considering they have been losing a fair few players already.
His contract was expiring next year, the two players are in completely different situations.So we have to pay nearly £70m for Antony but Bayern paid £20m for Gravenberch?
Does Antony's value go up every update? He's not a 70m player, even 40m would be risky.
Ah fair enough I didn’t know his contract was due to expire. £70m still seems a lot for a player who isn’t exactly tearing up Eredivisie. I agree that he’s an exciting player but paying anymore than £45m-ish would be bad business in my opinion.
Can' really blame them, they have lost half their team alreadySo we have to pay nearly £70m for Antony but Bayern paid £20m for Gravenberch?
.That Martinez fella is as good as gone as well i'd say
80m euro for him seems high. But if the club can swing it, then why not? At some point, we need to flex our muscles.
That sort of logic just gets you robbed. We’re trying to move away from the spaffing money senselessly model.
I said it a few days that he’ll hand in a transfer request and it’ll get done if we don’t baulk at the price. Ajax will try and price him out of a move and we won’t want to pay too much. A Mexican standoff. It Really depends on how desperate the player is to come. Probably gets done for about £50 million or €60 million
He wants to force a move to Manchester United? Big mentality, more of what we need.
Under the circumstances, if this gets done after he kicks up a fuss and has to wrestle with Ajax, it’s going to get done fairly late. Which will be torture for the ‘pre-season tour’ brigade of moaners.
This Mike chap is reliable for Ajax news, right? I think if Antony does kick up a bit of a fuss we might be able to get this one done.
Considering they only bought him for 15m, I'm surprised at the current reported valuation. I guess it's a fair position after losing players for less than their market value, but I don't think that will do them any favours for players joining in the future.
Yep, Mike is as good as it gets for Ajax news.
I don’t think so, Ajax are normally quite fair in the selling market. I think the price here is more symbolic as in we don’t want to sell right now. They’d probably sell for a sensible sum next summer, they just don’t want to lose a 5th starter ( if Martinez goes too)
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It appears Antony will likely be our first Brazilian forward. Weird we never signed one before!
Kleberson?
Forward...
Is not a forward.
Funny how he forgot about Fred and Telles
Where did he play I can’t remember now thought Fergie put him right wing?
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Funny how he forgot about Fred and Telles
both terrific strikers.EDIT - just realized you mentioned the Kleberson post!
Neither, I didn't think he saw the word "forward" hence saying Kleberson.
Telles is a failed winger anyway
Yeah I swiftly edited my post but it was too late, you're too quick
I've never seen him play but he's obviously a decent footballer so the muppet in me went to watch a few youtube videos of him and well, is anyone else really underwhelmed by him? Seems like a left footed right winger but what else is so special about him? It's a lot of money thats being rumoured. Do you guys think he has enormous potential?
Thank Peter Kenyon for that.
I do.
Anything around 80mil will be a massive overpay. Ajax have all the leverage at the moment and won't let him go unless we pay the F you price. I don't see any other top teams that are in for him at that price.
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