Thankfully not, I'm already depressed enough as is 
Are Utd Making You Depressed?
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Then it's just in another word: United made me depress.
I meant what you describe is that following United is like religion. When someone like SAF can attend and keep the fanbase happy with success, people despite different views would submit to his order, since the majority (toured) would outspeak the minority. However, when that authority is no longer,
It's just false sense of unity. Real life it never was. Many people joined with the outspoken top red because they believe that is true, but rather they're scared to lose. Minority group in some subjects were correct (for example, the approach in transfer market in SAF his final years). SAF can't manage and live forever. Life will continue to change. What was once good, can change for worse with time.
Note: Can I say our fanbase especially top red folk suffering from socialist idealism?
I meant what you describe is that following United is like religion. When someone like SAF can attend and keep the fanbase happy with success, people despite different views would submit to his order, since the majority (toured) would outspeak the minority. However, when that authority is no longer,
It's just false sense of unity. Real life it never was. Many people joined with the outspoken top red because they believe that is true, but rather they're scared to lose. Minority group in some subjects were correct (for example, the approach in transfer market in SAF his final years). SAF can't manage and live forever. Life will continue to change. What was once good, can change for worse with time.
Note: Can I say our fanbase especially top red folk suffering from socialist idealism?
I got depressed when I missed United's game, then wake up with all negativity on social media.
So you agree with some of our so called fans on here calling our manger, a club legend, a cnut? Some of our players thick cnuts, dumb cnuts, etc?
Criticism is fine, all out nasty insults is not. What does the word support mean to these people, because that is anything but.
The level of doom and gloom among the United commentariat has ventured into new dimensions of angst-agonism. I don't think I've ever witnessed such wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth before over anything. Dentists, everywhere in Manchester, will be relishing the business they'll have this season.
Meanwhile, back in this dimension, United look much stronger than at the start of last season.
In (compared to last August):
- Henderson - competition for de Gea
- Donny van der Beek - quality alternative to Pogba.
- Fernandes - hard-working, creative attacking midfielder, reliable penalty taker and free-kick threat.
- Ighalo - alternative striker
- Greenwood - alternative striker, and right-wing
- Williams - left-back reserve
- Juan Mata - looks like he's regained some form. Useful in cups.
- Teden Mengi and Ethan Laird - unproven but promising. May get some games as sub or cup starter.
- 12 to 13 more U18s added. Some of them look like they have real quality.
If the club was badly run but we were still winning trophies and titles, would you still be depressed? I doubt it.
Just shows how spoilt our fanbase is.
Just shows how spoilt our fanbase is.
Whether or not I agree is irrelevant imo. Few things here: I doubt the manager or players give a feck what some random blokes on the internet have to say about them, for starters. Secondly, football is a passionate sport - if you don't agree with how some individuals support the club, just like in real life, you're allowed to ignore them. Instead, on the internet it's made even easier for you.
I've never agreed with the ideology that just because we support a club, we need to try and remain positive and see everything with blinkered optimism. They are still supporters of the club, they just support differently to what you deem acceptable.
What does this even mean? If the club was winning trophies, we wouldn't be badly run. That is the goal (or what is supposed to be) for a sporting team.
Thanks for confirming. You’re getting depressed because we’re not winning anymore.
Deary me
Nothing like doubling up on your terrible post. Not once did I mention that, but sureThanks for confirming. You’re getting depressed because we’re not winning anymore.
Deary me
Must be hilarious trying to muster up a response to that train wreck of a thought you had. No worries pal, I'll let it slide and hit you with a few laughing smilies too
I learnt long ago to leave football at the door. When I was younger a United loss could ruin my entire weekend... Now it bugs me for maybe an hour after the game is done and then I'm good.
Wins improve my mood sure but yeah, United losing or being poorly run or Ed Woodward being a moron won't get me down.
Wins improve my mood sure but yeah, United losing or being poorly run or Ed Woodward being a moron won't get me down.
Same can be said about the group of fans who instead of focusing on the big picture, focus on these glory hunter fans who actually voice their discomfort. The club has been run shambolically, and I'd rather people voice their discomfort than act like it's way bellow them to criticize anyone.
How old are you? 76? United still ruin my weekend frequently.
waiting for the "Are You Making United Fans Depressed?" counter-thread
How old are you? 76? United still ruin my weekend frequently.
... 34... I dunno, I just stopped letting it get me down. I think the fact that we lost more regularly now then we did back then has probably made me more used to it, plus if I'm a mopey arsehole all weekend the missus won't be overly impressed!No. Even after growing up solely knowing United as a great successful team, the downturn isn’t affecting my mood. Probably because I’m older. I’m sure if I was in my 20s still and football was everything to me then I would be
It used to but not anymore, there is much more to life than Man Utd. If the club wins games, never mind trophies then I'm in a good mood but if there are extended periods of bad football and bad results, honestly I don't give a feck anymore. I'll follow the club because I'm an addict but I'm emotionally detached
No, how can something I have 0 influence in can depress me?
Football should make you feel better, not depress you. If you come to being depressed because of football it means you're taking it too seriously and you need to get a life.
Football should make you feel better, not depress you. If you come to being depressed because of football it means you're taking it too seriously and you need to get a life.
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No not at all . The moment I get depressed by any sport I would walk away . At the end of the Day sport is entertainment we all are United fans and it's almost a tribal thing to come together and feel the passion of supporting this team win lose or draw . Do I get frustrated ? yes . but that is sport. I wouldn't be harsh on our fans either maybe some across the wrong way but this a forum for opinion and conversation, I couldn't even tell you how many times I laughed out loud on here some if the stuff is comedy gold . We are what we are with the owners and Ed and the management of the club . I think people get drawn into the media hype , As I said sport is entertainment and we are the biggest show in town, watch the next couple of days How United pop up every 5 minutes in transfer speculation the reason " Hated , Adored , But never ignored " . Find the good in what you love about supporting United , this is a fantastic club I personally loved being at old Trafford and speaking with fans on those days . I'm Happy to be part of this tribe.
It’s ok to look at things and have an opinion. Doesn’t make you any less or more of a fan. Seems quite a few here want to think they are standard bearers for supporters. To be honest most of the fans I know like this go to a handful of games a season at best despite living in Manchester. But think because they say everything in the garden is rosy they are fan no.1.
If you're not going to read the post what's the point of commenting?
It literally says in the thread opener that I don't expect us to win all the time. What's depressing is watching leeches run us dry and continuously demonstrate their obvious inadequacies window after window.
No planning. No strategy. No vision. No clue. And I'm not talking about Ole, just the board.
It’s not about winning, I can deal with us not being able to compete for the biggest trophies. But the owners that suck money from the club and appoint incompetent people at key positions, while stating that their goal is a prosperous and successful United...
It’s like watching your car getting hijacked by a bunch of drunk teenagers. I struggle to produce an accurate metaphor.
It’s like watching your car getting hijacked by a bunch of drunk teenagers. I struggle to produce an accurate metaphor.
I think there is a lot of truth in what you e just said. It doesn’t make me depressed but it does make me think sometimes what are these guys playing at.
Last season as a whole wasn’t great but from Bruno’s arrival there were glimpses of what the team could be and a direction it was heading. By the end of the season I had tricked myself in to thinking ok this is great, they’ll get Sancho and invest in a couple of positions and we’ll have taken one step closer to establishing ourselves.
As of yet none of that has happened and it worries me, because if it was a vanity toy for billionaires or just anyone with any common sense they would have realised they had the makings of something there. However it’s a buisness and they will always prioritise the buisness and how much money it can make over the football and that is something I find a struggle to overcome and leaves me with a bitter taste towards the club.
There is still time for them to do things but if we wanted to succeed at football the deals should have been done before the first game of the season.
I’m just picturing Monday evening, imagine a loss to Spurs then bringing no one else in, all we did was get a back up to Pogba and Bruno.
Jose won stuff and people didn’t care because the club was a mess and he was an atrocious appointment so think that argument falls flat.
My main complain is that there have been too many Top5-7 positions after 2013.
The club is big enough to end up Top2-4 every season, no matter what. Let Spurs or Everton worry about finishing 4th.
The club is big enough to end up Top2-4 every season, no matter what. Let Spurs or Everton worry about finishing 4th.
Nope. Because at the end of the day I don't really care about football all that much. Granted the lost CL finals got me in a bad mood for a couple of days and it happens if we lose an important game but I'm not getting depressed over that.
No, Utd have never made me depressed. All a matter of perspective, I have more important issues at home but thankfully my wife,kids and the rest are all safe. That makes me happier.
Would like to see the cnuts play great football and challenge though!
Would like to see the cnuts play great football and challenge though!
Man Utd doesn't depress me. The club's ownership frustrate me because their priority is clearly to exploit the club for financial gain. They, via their employee Mr Woodward, are saying one thing and doing another. This makes them dishonest or incompetent or both. We know that football works in cycles and I can ultimately accept that we're not entitled to stay on top indefinitely - but to pretend that they want to get it right and then stop short of making the investment decisions necessary, to not learn, to take huge sums of money out of the club or burden it with more debt and risk? I cannot accept that - it's disingenuous, cowardly (particularly when you hide behind managers and coaches) and it's limiting the vast potential of our club.
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No, United don't affect my day-to-day mood or mental health. In my early twenties, a loss or even a draw could ruin my weekend but I think a huge part of that was that I was insecure about the team's quality: I thought we were really good and every defeat/poor performance made me panic a little that maybe I'm wrong. And of course when you're going for major trophies, a single defeat can have huge ramifications. Nowadays, United losing is an old friend, it's familiar and harmless.
I'm a lot less worked up during games, too; when Brighton equalised, it didn't bother me too much, not least because I knew that ultimately it wasn't going to make much of a difference. Sure, it might mean we end up 5th instead of 4th but it's hard to get really worked up about the constant CL battles anymore. I do sometimes have brief bouts of despair during games when the realisation hits me, again and again, that we're light years away from competing for the major trophies - but I'm quickly over it, not least because there's a bit of comfort in that. Sure, I don't have the chance to enjoy the sheer elation and euphoria of a CL win or a league title and I probably won't for at least another decade but I also won't have to experience crushing disappointment, like losing the Premier League crown in the last fecking second of the season.
Basically, I used a lot of words to say I care less now than I used to and overall that's good. And there's always the chance to vent and commiserate on the Caf which is one of the best things about following football for me.
I'm a lot less worked up during games, too; when Brighton equalised, it didn't bother me too much, not least because I knew that ultimately it wasn't going to make much of a difference. Sure, it might mean we end up 5th instead of 4th but it's hard to get really worked up about the constant CL battles anymore. I do sometimes have brief bouts of despair during games when the realisation hits me, again and again, that we're light years away from competing for the major trophies - but I'm quickly over it, not least because there's a bit of comfort in that. Sure, I don't have the chance to enjoy the sheer elation and euphoria of a CL win or a league title and I probably won't for at least another decade but I also won't have to experience crushing disappointment, like losing the Premier League crown in the last fecking second of the season.
Basically, I used a lot of words to say I care less now than I used to and overall that's good. And there's always the chance to vent and commiserate on the Caf which is one of the best things about following football for me.
Losing against City or Liverpool used to really **** me off for days, same with Arsenal back when the rivalry was a bit more heated. But back then we were more accustomed to winning most of the time, we were spoilt with success.
It’s a different era now. I‘ll still get wound up when we lose, and the club frustrates the hell out of me, but I’m used to it now. It is what it is and crying about it won’t change anything. There’s more important things in life.
This. 5 years ago I might have called you out but little by little I've become immune to the shit show our club has become. A defeat might have taken me a couple of days to get over but not anymore.
It's definitely sad what's happened with the leveraged buy-out, 1.2B being taken out of the club and Old Trafford being let go to rack and ruin. The leaky roof was just embarrassing.
However, it doesn't make me depressed. There are far too many reasons for optimism and this team and manager are likable compared to the previous few and they have been playing some of the best stuff we've seen for a while. (Slow start/no pre-season etc aside).
My feelings are summed up by what this guy said (apart from the dentist analogy):
However, it doesn't make me depressed. There are far too many reasons for optimism and this team and manager are likable compared to the previous few and they have been playing some of the best stuff we've seen for a while. (Slow start/no pre-season etc aside).
My feelings are summed up by what this guy said (apart from the dentist analogy):
The most consistent thing in my life in the last 7 years, through moving, different jobs, different girlfriends & change in general, is United keeping me depressed. The one constant in my life
The false dawns, the exciting new signings, the new managers, the exciting young players, they all come & go, but we always end up back at square one. I have now accepted that we will never ever compete for major honours under this ownership/board. Kinda just numb to it now.
The false dawns, the exciting new signings, the new managers, the exciting young players, they all come & go, but we always end up back at square one. I have now accepted that we will never ever compete for major honours under this ownership/board. Kinda just numb to it now.
It's a comforting depression, I'd rather have it than not, it's a distraction, even if it's often a bloody annoying one lately.
We have been through so much as a team in the past 7-8 years with Moyes, Van Gaal and Jose all failing miserably. Atleast under Ole, I have belief in the team and I enjoy watching us play (for the most parts). I like most of our players and I’m more positive about the future of our team than I have ever been post-Fergie. I think I have also adjusted my expectations a little from the glory days of Fergie and have managed to not let our results affect my overall mood. I do sometimes feel like shit after a game (the most recent one being the Crystal Palace game) but somehow I don’t let it bother me beyond the day of the match.
And shows how some know feck all about our fanbase
No, I don't really care enough anymore. Not like I did in my teens/early 20s when it was an obsession. I still watch every game, and it's good when we win, and a bit of a downer when we lose, but once it's over, it's over.