And if we are, why? I've always looked at Liverpool as a great cup team growing up. Bare in mind, before tonight they'd only won 1 trophy in 12 years. But they were still getting to finals and semi finals consistently. I'm not talking about tonight, as they've been one of the best teams in Europe all season. But 05 and 07, they were way off. Not even close. But still got to 2 finals in 3 years, winning one. Have we ever had it in us to make a good run in Europe when we haven't been one of the best teams anyway? I'm not wording it properly. Historically, we've never made an underdog run in Europe like Liverpool did in 05 and 07 and Chelsea in 12. So why are Liverpool are a good cup team? And why aren't we? What makes a good cup team?