Not really. One side has no basis for their flat earther-esque takes.
Argentina World Cup Discussion
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Argentina's most fouling player is Laurtaro Martinez with 7. Harry Kane has 7
Neither have been booked. I thought Kane got booked after giving away the penalty and trying to stay in the area to cause a nuisance before the penalty could be taken. whoscored and fotmob have him not getting booked
So both players 7 fouls 0 bookings
Argentina will go out to England soon anyway then we can put this theory to bed and focus on all the help FIFA is giving to bring it home.
He has 3 fouls and 2 cards. It's one of the worst ratio of the competition.
You’ve cut out most of my post explaining the rationale of why some people might suspect there’s some funny business going on
I dunno what to say really. I gave the examples. Literal multiple instances of interference. I’m also not sure why a goal in 2010 is being brought up.It doesn’t even have to be specific to Argentina. Just find it bizarre you and the other poster completely dismissed the idea of corruption in the week the president of USA made Fifa erase a players justified suspension.
This is overconfidence considering the teams are quite evenly matched. England are probably better player-for-player, but don't have the same team spirit and play for each other attitude. One can cancel the other out, so it depends which on the day. I also think both play a very physical style, so I expect the game would be almost old-school in how it would be played. That said, I am not convinced England will get past Norway.
I didn’t mean in the WC. There’s a City or Liverpool or two who always tend to get away without being carded. I forget which exact ones.
Yes the president interfered. If he hadn’t, you’d automatically assume cheating? Quite odd.You’ve cut out most of my post explaining the rationale of why some people might suspect there’s some funny business going on
It doesn’t even have to be specific to Argentina. Just find it bizarre you and the other poster completely dismissed the idea of corruption in the week the president of USA made Fifa erase a players justified suspension.
Maybe you havent watched the Mexico game, but I believe it showed the exact opposite to your claim.
Which claim?
Personally i do believe the bigger teams do get the marginal calls in their favour, it's probably more obvious with Argentina because of all the dirty players they have and how often they are involved in these controversial moments. For example, Paredes incident vs the Netherlands is another that stands out from the last world cup which he should have been sent off, these sorts of behaviours are more rare from the other top teams.
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All we can do is guess. But even after the Balogun scandal and the treatment of Iran, people still think it is beyond FIFA to favour their cash cows like Argentina or Messi? We can't prove anything, but it's very plausible to not have any trust that FIFA is interested in a fair competition at all.
It is not like FIFA doesn't have a history. Italy 1934 was quite clearly rigged, when they chose the referees themselves. They held down African and Asian football to a point that Africa boycotted England 1966.
It is not like FIFA doesn't have a history. Italy 1934 was quite clearly rigged, when they chose the referees themselves. They held down African and Asian football to a point that Africa boycotted England 1966.
I stand by it, I think England are better player-for-player.
I don’t think they have similar quality. Argentina look mediocre and Messi is 4 years worse of. England have much more quality and I think over the last 2-3 tournaments, they have the team spirit as well. They showed it against Mexico despite not playing that well.
Some of these incidents are clutching at straws. However, outside the VAR incidents already discussed those tackles not getting yellows is baffling. It really does impact the game if the likes of Romero are not playing on yellows as it hampers the way defend and are likely to get second yellows.
Are you deliberately obtuse ?
Are you deliberately vague? Say what you mean or don't say it at all, I am moving on with my day regardless.
Hmm, weird response. You’re a good poster and I agree with most things you say but maybe you’re not quite ready to genuinely commit to this whole World Cup corruption discussion.
At the same time they are literally collecting every dive, every small foul, every nothing, every real foul not call for just one side. In this very game Alvarez got clattered with what looked and orange, and it wasn't even a yellow.
Errrm okay.
It was obvious I meant the togetherness of the team that you said is inferior to that of Argentina, which was proven to not be the case given the Mexico game situarion.
Everything is a conspiracy nowadays. The world is fake but we consume the shit out of everything anyway.
I don't think anything was proven. Made debatable perhaps. I am not questioning whether England have good team spirit, I think they do. Just not as much as I see with Argentina, which is a team that rides emotional waves that are a direct connection to its society in ways very few other teams do.
This forum's incessant fawning over Messi has gone on to whitewash anything and everything related to Argentina. People should separate Messi from Argentina and review some of the decisions.
As a neutral, the tribalism is hilarious. Messi is the best player , and Argentina is getting favorable decisions since 2018; both can be true at the same time. There's nothing "flat-earther" take about it.
As a neutral, the tribalism is hilarious. Messi is the best player , and Argentina is getting favorable decisions since 2018; both can be true at the same time. There's nothing "flat-earther" take about it.
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hows that not a foul? if we are giving soft ones.
This was the incident that wasn't looked into more detail as it was overshadowed by the others. Looking at it in real time the pull didn't look significant, but being able to look at it from that angle the shirt is clearly being stretched from his neck so it probably is enough to be a foul. Maybe soft, but have seen them given, VAR not even looking at it sums up the whole inconsistency of the system .
It reminds me this one, Mbappé didn't dive which is out of character but the shirt pull was ridiculous.
I mean it really looks like he just fell over there
It was so corrupt of FIFA to award France a penalty in the last World Cup final in extra time to deny Messi winning the game, which is exactly what FIFA wants…oh wait, that doesn’t make any sense.
Because it’s a silly discussion based on feck all. People often go on about SAF paying PL refs during the years we dominated. Heck, people often mock the officiating in the PL today. It’s called a systemic problem and not rigging there because people don’t fall pray to brainless memes / PR.
Indeed. Utterly ridiculous way to go down based on a shirt pull.
That was blatant.
Its debeatable calls that mostly end up going in favor of Argentina.
They can rig it 5% by that which is enough in tight gamss but they cant go and rig it 100%.
Damn this thread has gone from toxic to radiaoctive.
BTW there is a VAR/ officiating related thread. This is going way over the top.
Yeah that's not a penalty.
Egypt are sore losers. Every decision by the ref was bang on, bar not calling the foul on Martinez that needed VAR intervention.
Hard to feel sorry for a nation that has been corrupt in numerous AFCONs.
Hard to feel sorry for a nation that has been corrupt in numerous AFCONs.