Arne Slot | ex-Liverpool manager | The Bald sack watch is over

Dansk said:
Can anybody say with a straight face that they think it was because of Arne Slot that Liverpool were able to win the title, and couldn't have done it without him?

They won it because literally nobody else made the slightest attempt to challenge, and because Salah had his last hurrah and single-handedly carried them through the season. Slot had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Everytime Liverpool play a match I am definitely struggling to say it with a straight face.

It does literally look like it was a total vibes thing. They had someone come in who was likeable, didn’t change much and they still had the auto pilot of Klopps system in place. And as you said everybody else was absolute shite.

In modern football it seems a difficult concept to not give credit to a manger who wins a title but everytime Liverpool rock onto a football pitch atm he’s losing that credit more and more.
 
Need to give him more time to rebuild the team. Also Isak hasnt had a preseason yet.
 
He's moaned for ages about the low block and how teams should play more like PSG.

Then he goes there and plays a limp low block devoid of ambition. The absolute spoofer.
 
B20 said:
He's moaned for ages about the low block and how teams should play more like PSG.

Then he goes there and plays a limp low block devoid of ambition. The absolute spoofer.
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:lol: I love how much you hate him.
 
DennisReynolds said:
Complete fraud. Expectations are in the gutter for some Liverpool fans though so they'll probably be happy we only lost 2-0, and probably the least deserved 2-0 loss of all time.

Don't let him back on the plane back to Liverpool.
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No, this doesn't move the needle at all. 2-0 at PSG at face value isn't bad enough, they needed to absolutely trash us for the owners to see immediate sense.

Under Klopp you would've backed us to overcome a 2-goal deficit at Anfield in a second leg, now it's pointless to even play the second game. I'm reading we had zero shots on target last night :lol: You just gotta laugh otherwise you'll cry.
 
RobinLFC said:
No, this doesn't move the needle at all. 2-0 at PSG at face value isn't bad enough, they needed to absolutely trash us for the owners to see immediate sense.

Under Klopp you would've backed us to overcome a 2-goal deficit at Anfield in a second leg, now it's pointless to even play the second game. I'm reading we had zero shots on target last night :lol: You just gotta laugh otherwise you'll cry.
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Don't worry, we're laughing! :)

It's nice to see someone else's funk from awful management after our lot this past half decade.

Slot looks completely out of his depth. Impressive work to unravel you in such a short period of time. Amorimian, even.
 
SilentWitness said:
:lol: I love how much you hate him.
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He's leapt past Rodgers and is now in Hodgson territory.

I blame the upper management really. If they had showed any kind of prudence, rather than be willing to just flush a whole season down the drain for nothing, and sacked him earlier, he would have left with under far more amicable circumstances. It would have been "it's sad it's come to this, but it had to happen. He'll be remembered for the title win".

Now it'll be a celebration when he goes and his credit for the title win will have seriously eroded as well. Hughes/Edwards/FSG have poisoned the well for everyone involved in this. Utter apathy disguised as contemplative patience. Edwards' "results are noisy" is a perfect illustration of the sneering ivory tower they've sat themselves in.
 
B20 said:
He's leapt past Rodgers and is now in Hodgson territory.

I blame the upper management really. If they had showed any kind of prudence, rather than be willing to just flush a whole season down the drain for nothing, and sacked him earlier, he would have left with under far more amicable circumstances. It would have been "it's sad it's come to this, but it had to happen. He'll be remembered for the title win".

Now it'll be a celebration when he goes and his credit for the title win will have seriously eroded as well. Hughes/Edwards/FSG have poisoned the well for everyone involved in this. Utter apathy disguised as contemplative patience. Edwards' "results are noisy" is a perfect illustration of the sneering ivory tower they've sat themselves in.
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Maybe if we beat you somehow next week then he will be gone.
 
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B20 said:
He's leapt past Rodgers and is now in Hodgson territory.

I blame the upper management really. If they had showed any kind of prudence, rather than be willing to just flush a whole season down the drain for nothing, and sacked him earlier, he would have left with under far more amicable circumstances. It would have been "it's sad it's come to this, but it had to happen. He'll be remembered for the title win".

Now it'll be a celebration when he goes and his credit for the title win will have seriously eroded as well. Hughes/Edwards/FSG have poisoned the well for everyone involved in this. Utter apathy disguised as contemplative patience. Edwards' "results are noisy" is a perfect illustration of the sneering ivory tower they've sat themselves in.
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I think, after the title win, they had to give him a fair amount of rope to hang himself. If they’d sacked him earlier, for years hence there’d have been a “fired Slot too early narrative”. He’s now a result or two away from the completely untenable situation and even those whom have given him the most benefit of the doubt will have turned.
 
SilentWitness said:
Maybe if we beat you somehow in a few weeks then he will be gone.
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If losing to your lot meant him being sacked, I'd gladly take it. And there's literally no team on the planet that losing to grinds my gears more than Everton.
 
IrwinwasbetterthanCarlos said:
I think, after the title win, they had to give him a fair amount of rope to hang himself. If they’d sacked him earlier, for years hence there’d have been a “fired Slot too early narrative”. He’s now a result or two away from the completely untenable situation and even those whom have given him the most benefit of the doubt will have turned.
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His situation has been completely untenable for months.
 
B20 said:
If losing to your lot meant him being sacked, I'd gladly take it. And there's literally no team on the planet that losing to grinds my gears more than Everton.
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It could be possible as it would mean going out of the CL and putting a major dent in your CL hopes for next season in the same week.
 
SilentWitness said:
It could be possible as it would mean going out of the CL and putting a major dent in your CL hopes for next season in the same week.
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losing to you and firing slot would increase our chances of getting top 5 compared to us not losing and slot staying.
 
B20 said:
losing to you and firing slot would increase our chances of getting top 5 compared to us not losing and slot staying.
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:lol: maybe. But then you'd have United two weeks after. He has two big derby away games which he can claw back some credit.
 
Only so much a manager can do against much superior opposition. Not a single Liverpool player would get into the PSG team. Last season you could have made arguments for Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson and maybe even Alexander Arnold if you were being generous. Those players are now either not available or have regressed to be a shadow of their former selves, and the replacements have been completely ineffective.

Slot is really being hung out to dry (YAWN) by Liverpool fans, for the failings of the star players and recruitment.
 
brozonis said:
Only so much a manager can do against much superior opposition. Not a single Liverpool player would get into the PSG team. Last season you could have made arguments for Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson and maybe even Alexander Arnold if you were being generous. Those players are now either not available or have regressed to be a shadow of their former selves, and the replacements have been completely ineffective.

Slot is really being hung out to dry (YAWN) by Liverpool fans, for the failings of the star players and recruitment.
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If only Arne could get our defence as well drilled to defend for him as you do with your posts.

Only so much a manager can do? Jesus Christ we played 5 at the back yet PSG ran through at ease and had all the time in the world, and we didn't have a single shot on target. All of this while Slot gaslights by saying the football will be better when we play an open side like PSG.

Way worse teams like us have put up a fight away at PSG this season.
 
brozonis said:
Only so much a manager can do against much superior opposition. Not a single Liverpool player would get into the PSG team. Last season you could have made arguments for Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson and maybe even Alexander Arnold if you were being generous. Those players are now either not available or have regressed to be a shadow of their former selves, and the replacements have been completely ineffective.

Slot is really being hung out to dry (YAWN) by Liverpool fans, for the failings of the star players and recruitment.
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If every single player of your team is underperforming and having a disappointing season, it's not an individual issue anymore, it's clearly the manager who hasn't got a clue how to get his players performing and get the best out of them. It's literally his job to get them to play together and he's failing miserably at it. Take Salah as an example, a player doesn't go from scoring a gazillion goals in one season to Sunday league level just because he's on the wrong side of 33 all of a sudden.

It's not even related to the fact that we lose games, a loss at PSG is understandable and can even be expected, it's HOW we are set up and have been playing that's the issue and what's infuriating here. Being hung out to dry my arse, he's been given more than a few months too much at the club already.
 
B20 said:
If losing to your lot meant him being sacked, I'd gladly take it. And there's literally no team on the planet that losing to grinds my gears more than Everton.
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Fortunately for us in this one instance, Everton always roll over for your lot.
 
brozonis said:
Only so much a manager can do against much superior opposition. Not a single Liverpool player would get into the PSG team. Last season you could have made arguments for Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson and maybe even Alexander Arnold if you were being generous. Those players are now either not available or have regressed to be a shadow of their former selves, and the replacements have been completely ineffective.

Slot is really being hung out to dry (YAWN) by Liverpool fans, for the failings of the star players and recruitment.
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Not true, because the players look woefully unfit, which is on him. Lots of reports of physical levels dropping and training not being intense. Compounded by him skipping off on jollies on a regular basis.
 
RobinLFC said:
If every single player of your team is underperforming and having a disappointing season, it's not an individual issue anymore, it's clearly the manager who hasn't got a clue how to get his players performing and get the best out of them. It's literally his job to get them to play together and he's failing miserably at it. Take Salah as an example, a player doesn't go from scoring a gazillion goals in one season to Sunday league level just because he's on the wrong side of 33 all of a sudden.

It's not even related to the fact that we lose games, a loss at PSG is understandable and can even be expected, it's HOW we are set up and have been playing that's the issue and what's infuriating here. Being hung out to dry my arse, he's been given more than a few months too much at the club already.
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I don't think every player is underperforming - they are just not that good. Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Gakpo, Ekitike, Kerkez, Marmedasvhili, Jones etc.. are all playing at least to their general level. So too probably is Van Dijk, now that he is just past it physically. Blaming Slot for Salah's drop in form is also a bit much. He's still been getting in plenty of good positions, but his finishing, and final ball has just become terrible - that's down to the player.

Slot's weakness is his failure to get a relatively average team to be better than the sum of their parts. But he has been badly hamstrung in this by being handed a very unbalanced squad that lacks pace and width (so difficult to play well in transitions or on the counter), but also lacks alternatives to the two failing CBs (so very hard to set up solidly).
 
IrwinwasbetterthanCarlos said:
Not true, because the players look woefully unfit, which is on him. Lots of reports of physical levels dropping and training not being intense. Compounded by him skipping off on jollies on a regular basis.
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Again, this is largely down to the profile of player in the squad. If you sell the hardest working, most intense players in the team (Diaz, Nunez..), continue to rely heavily on players whose legs have gone (Salah, Van Dijk) and sign players who struggle with the physicality of the league (Wirtz, Frimpong), then the team is going to look off the pace.
 
They looked woeful, it's as much the bad signings, the decline of Salah, injuries and the Jota tragedy as Slot though imo.

I don't think Liverpool will improve much with a shiny new manager.
 
brozonis said:
I don't think every player is underperforming - they are just not that good. Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Gakpo, Ekitike, Kerkez, Marmedasvhili, Jones etc.. are all playing at least to their general level. So too probably is Van Dijk, now that he is just past it physically. Blaming Slot for Salah's drop in form is also a bit much. He's still been getting in plenty of good positions, but his finishing, and final ball has just become terrible - that's down to the player.

Slot's weakness is his failure to get a relatively average team to be better than the sum of their parts. But he has been badly hamstrung in this by being handed a very unbalanced squad that lacks pace and width (so difficult to play well in transitions or on the counter), but also lacks alternatives to the two failing CBs (so very hard to set up solidly).
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I would do a better job going into the locker room and saying to the players to just have fun and figure it out on the pitch themselves rather than what Slot has them doing right now. He needs to feck off ASAP.
 
RobinLFC said:
I would do a better job going into the locker room and saying to the players to just have fun and figure it out on the pitch themselves rather than what Slot has them doing right now. He needs to feck off ASAP.
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Didn't you turn your telly off last night? You don't even watch the games and still have the cheek to slag your best manager in last 30y.
Isak is back, he just need some time and few transfers windows. No empire is build overnight.
Facts.
 
I can see excuses being brought out for him, but if you look deeper during the PL win, when all was being forgiven because he won the thing, the rot was deeper. Salah bailed them out so many times last season.

This season he can’t, his body seems to have said no chance. Or he’s not playing for slot anymore. Either way, plan A has gone.

Regardless of player form, injuries etc all Liverpool fans will tell you about the pointlessly boring football he’s implemented. He has slowed Liverpool right down and taken away their very biggest tool, fast football.
 
HanifaPopuslich said:
Didn't you turn your telly off last night? You don't even watch the games and still have the cheek to slag your best manager in last 30y.
Isak is back, he just need some time and few transfers windows. No empire is build overnight.
Facts.
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Funny guy :D

And yes I did, it's utterly depressing watching Liverpool this season, there's just no point to it.
 
Never forget how smug and condescending this fat thumb was last season.
 
For me Slot is a rich man Roberto Martinez. Martinez came into a solid Moyes team and with a few adjustments they started the season flying and were in contention for CL qualification for much of the season. Slot did the same in his first season, he came in, made a few tweaks + Salah having an all timer PL season and won the league. But the wheels started to fall off next season when they were tasked to build a new to team and start to phase the old guard.
 
They got utterly battered by PSG at the same ground last season too despite fluking a win so that performance wasn't that surprising.

They've tried a massive rebuild after winning the league and it just hasn't clicked. Doubt it's completely down to Slot, but his sacking also feels inevitable with Alonso hanging over his head now.
 
RobinLFC said:
I would do a better job going into the locker room and saying to the players to just have fun and figure it out on the pitch themselves rather than what Slot has them doing right now. He needs to feck off ASAP.
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This is just utter delusion. It's like you think being 5th in the Premier League and getting to Champions League quarters is the absolute floor for this Liverpool squad. Speaking from experience of seeing a club go through a similar transition, they can go a lot, lot lower than this, and it's not mostly down to the manager.
 
brozonis said:
This is just utter delusion. It's like you think being 5th in the Premier League and getting to Champions League quarters is the absolute floor for this Liverpool squad. Speaking from experience of seeing a club go through a similar transition, they can go a lot, lot lower than this, and it's not mostly down to the manager.
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You mean absolute ceiling , otherwise you're making his point.

edit: disregard , reading is not that easy apparently.
 
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