Arne Slot | ex-Liverpool manager | The Bald sack watch is over

It seems that beyond his results, meaning his obvious great title season and his mediocre (mostly in terms of actually consolidate the job done before), what annoys the most of many Liverpool fans are his manners, the way he expresses himself regarding what's happening that gives little to zero confidence to many to actually revert the situation
It's very annoying hearing him speak, but I'd still have that a secondary issue. He can keep talking shite if only the football wasn't so dull (nevermind ineffective) to watch.
 
It’s not the league position or even results as much as it is the poor football and clueless tactics. That United game is one I’ve watched numerous times as a Liverpool fan this season. We see entire halves of football pass us by.

How was the football you played under Houllier and Benitez?

You've been spoilt by Klopp. You expect brilliant, winning football with a characteristic manager and as you are finding out, it's not that easy.

Even if Slot is replaced next season things won't just magically get better.

Alonso plays boring football. How long before you turn on him?
If he doesn't win the league immediately he's already doing worse than Slot.
 
Wow. He's absolutely delusional. That knock-out tie against PSG was as clear-cut a victory as you can expect.
It’s also bemusing because he’s opened his mouth to put himself in a net negative position. Needs vetoing so he can’t readily put his foot in his mouth.
 
How was the football you played under Houllier and Benitez?

You've been spoilt by Klopp. You expect brilliant, winning football with a characteristic manager and as you are finding out, it's not that easy.

Even if Slot is replaced next season things won't just magically get better.

Alonso plays boring football. How long before you turn on him?
If he doesn't win the league immediately he's already doing worse than Slot.
More drivel. No one expects the next manager to be better than Klopp. There's a massive gap between wanting better than Slot, and wanting someone as good as Klopp.

Who gives a feck what Houllier and Rafa did? That was 16-28 years ago ffs. For what it's worth, if you want to compare then you have to consider that a) our squad with those two was much, much, much worse than now and b) as boring as they may have been, at least you could see what they wanted to do. There was a plan in place and a clear identity (even if nothing spectacular) on the pitch.

As said before, I feel like you're just gaslighting Liverpool fans. Did you want Amorim to stay? Or probably more relevant, ETH?
 
Ok, so twice he finished outside the top 4, whereas Slot has never. And took him 5 seasons to achieve what Slot achieved in his first season, a league title.

And yet Slot should be sacked?
You can’t be serious? Even as a United fan I think 18 losses in a season more than warrants the sack. Throw in that they don’t appear to know what they’re doing on the pitch, and Liverpool fans complain about tactics and boring playing style.. it should end one way
 
So I take it you were an ETH and Amorim fan and wanted to keep them?
How are they the same as Slot. I am no Slot fan but he won the league and is on course to finish 4th this season. Neither of those managers came close to winning the league and in fact both of them were sacked when the team was outside the top 4.


I think people might consider that person to be a troll but I agree with his overall point. Sacking a manager an year after winning the league is pretty rich for LFC
 
How was the football you played under Houllier and Benitez?

You've been spoilt by Klopp. You expect brilliant, winning football with a characteristic manager and as you are finding out, it's not that easy.

Even if Slot is replaced next season things won't just magically get better.

Alonso plays boring football. How long before you turn on him?
If he doesn't win the league immediately he's already doing worse than Slot.
Also think Liverpool decided not to hire Amorim because of back 3. Alonso likes to play back 3 as well. Though he's not stubborn and would change it to back 4.
 
Also think Liverpool decided not to hire Amorim because of back 3. Alonso likes to play back 3 as well. Though he's not stubborn and would change it to back 4.
No, we're on record of not considering Alonso because he ruled himself out early on.

We didn't hire Amorim because he was only wanting 3 at the back, but even West Ham rejected him so I don't think that tells us too much.

(I don't particularly like 3 at the back for what it's worth)
 
Clubs have bad seasons. A lot of the times when things go bad at the start of the season in successful teams it can be very difficult to grab the intensity back and make the players play hard again. Liverpool under Klopp had multiple seasons where they finished with less than 70 points after doing great in the previous seasons. I feel like Pep has created this false expectation from PL teams to be incredible every season.

One of the biggest issues in modern clubs is that you have no clue what happens behind the scenes. 20 years ago most clubs were being run by managers so you knew who was making all the calls. Now no one really knows what role Slot has behind the scenes. Whoever at Liverpool decided to go into the season with this imbalanced squad deserves a lot of blame too.

As someone who hates that club, I am loving this situation but I think that sacking Slot is the easy option but it's a very slippery slope to get on. I am completely convinced that they wouldn't have sacked him if Alonso wasn't on the market but the shiny new toy being on the market is of course affecting the way people think.
 
Dopey fat w*nker. The dippers should make him the highest paid manager in history and give him a 25 year contract.
 
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He'll be on an airplane again before the day is over.

It's revolutionary how he's been able to manage one of the biggest clubs in the world as a part time job. Doesn't get enough credit for that.
 
He's gonna get himself sacked before the end of the season. Hopefully they win their last 2 to keep him there and feck up another transfer window.
 
He'll be on an airplane again before the day is over.

It's revolutionary how he's been able to manage one of the biggest clubs in the world as a part time job. Doesn't get enough credit for that.
Careful now, you'll have @MaMa given red defending him in no time.

We couldn't wish for a better manager, amazing.
 
There's this very strange idea, common on this forum, that sacking an underperforming manager (especially if he had previously won trophies with his club) is the greatest sin a football club can commit.
 
Football is not what it was where you won the league and hung around reaping the goodwill for many years.

Eventually, even Arsenal fans turned on Wenger after he couldn't get Arsenal back to the top.

Slot won the league because of the great starts his teams had the last couple of seasons when others were still settling in. Add Salah's excellent form and they were ahead.

After Feb, they basically limped to the end of the season.

Even this season, first 6 games top of the league. If they didn't have that cushion, they would be out of the champions league spots today.

Yes, he won the league, yes they will finish in cl spots, but the instant gratification generation we are in, doesn't allow a manager to finish 4th or 5th after a league win and spending close to 450 million pounds.

The rational fan will probably give him another season but for Liverpool fans who are rational as well would write this one off as a bad season, if they see some hope for next season, it feels like this season may not be a one off and they just got lucky winning the league last season.

The quality of play, the players they have purchased, the attitude, the interviews from players agree Slot, all show that this may continue next season if Slot stays.

I for one am just happy at everything they are going through. At least with Fergie, United were consistently good to great every season whereas these basterds have a great season and go off the rails the next. Klopp included. No quality to fight and retain the title.
 
He'll be on an airplane again before the day is over.

It's revolutionary how he's been able to manage one of the biggest clubs in the world as a part time job. Doesn't get enough credit for that.
What's this about? Has this been a thing with Slot? I hadn't heard that!
 
How was the football you played under Houllier and Benitez?

You've been spoilt by Klopp. You expect brilliant, winning football with a characteristic manager and as you are finding out, it's not that easy.

Even if Slot is replaced next season things won't just magically get better.

Alonso plays boring football. How long before you turn on him?
If he doesn't win the league immediately he's already doing worse than Slot.
You’re talking about a different era of football where clubs sacking managers every 2/3 years wasn’t as normal. Also the football we played under Benitez and Houllier wasn’t always ugly. I’m not sure why people think this.

Slot’s been given more backing than any Liverpool manager and can’t get anything out of the side in terms of coherent good football, let alone results. At least there’s a chance of change if someone else comes in.

Why did United sack Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, ETH, Amorim? You’re never going to be the machine you were under Fergie but you still maintain expectations that’s where you should be.

If Slot stays he’s not magically going to get us going again.
 
You’re talking about a different era of football where clubs sacking managers every 2/3 years wasn’t as normal. Also the football we played under Benitez and Houllier wasn’t always ugly. I’m not sure why people think this.

Slot’s been given more backing than any Liverpool manager and can’t get anything out of the side in terms of coherent good football, let alone results. At least there’s a chance of change if someone else comes in.

Why did United sack Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, ETH, Amorim? You’re never going to be the machine you were under Fergie but you still maintain expectations that’s where you should be.

If Slot stays he’s not magically going to get us going again.
It has always been normal and it was definitely normal in the 2000s. The average in the PL was around two years which includes successful managers.
 
It has always been normal and it was definitely normal in the 2000s. The average in the PL was around two years which includes successful managers.
Not until the late 2000’s. It started with Chelsea. Prior to that you saw managers get a minimum of three years at top clubs unless they were a complete disaster.
 
Not until the late 2000’s. It started with Chelsea. Prior to that you saw managers get a minimum of three years at top clubs unless they were a complete disaster.

No, there is a study from Cambridge and you can check it, between 1991 aand 2001 the average tenure was 84.4 league games and in the last decade it's around 790 days. Which equates to around 2.2 years in both cases.
 
No, there is a study from Cambridge and you can check it, between 1991 aand 2001 the average tenure was 84.4 league games and in the last decade it's around 790 days. Which equates to around 2.2 years in both cases.
That doesn’t apply to top clubs though. Using Liverpool as an example:

Souness - April 91 to January 94
Evans - Jan 94 to July 98
Houllier - July 98 to July 04
Benitez - July 04 to July 10

Then Hodgson came along and the managerial stints got shorter before Klopp.
 
That doesn’t apply to top clubs though. Using Liverpool as an example:

Souness - April 91 to January 94
Evans - Jan 94 to July 98
Houllier - July 98 to July 04
Benitez - July 04 to July 10

Then Hodgson came along and the managerial stints got shorter before Klopp.

Top clubs or relatively succesful clubs have managers with longer tenures which should actually see you draw an important conclusion, most clubs aren't at the top or relatively successful so actual tenures are shorter than the average for most managers, iirc it's closer to 1.5.
 
What's this about? Has this been a thing with Slot? I hadn't heard that!
Yes. He doesn't live in the city. Has an apartment in Manchester and flies to Netherlands/Ibiza 2-3 days a week whenever possible.

Also the players are getting more days off than probably any squad in the Premier league, by extension of slot being away as well. Never mind that the training sessions are said to be busier around the coffee station than the training pitch.

He's a deeply unserious manager who has decimated standards at this club. Which is why he fell out with Salah.
 
Top clubs or relatively succesful clubs have managers with longer tenures which should actually see you draw an important conclusion, most clubs aren't at the top or relatively successful so actual tenures are shorter than the average for most managers, iirc it's closer to 1.5.
The original point of mine you replied to was meant to reference top clubs. Sides at the bottom or mid table are always more likely to make a change to avoid being dragged down.
 
Yes. He doesn't live in the city. Has an apartment in Manchester and flies to Netherlands/Ibiza 2-3 days a week whenever possible.

Also the players are getting more days off than probably any squad in the Premier league, by extension of slot being away as well. Never mind that the training sessions are said to be busier around the coffee station than the training pitch.

He's a deeply unserious manager who has decimated standards at this club. Which is why he fell out with Salah.

I thought the Ibiza claims were a twitter jokes? :lol:
 
Yes. He doesn't live in the city. Has an apartment in Manchester and flies to Netherlands/Ibiza 2-3 days a week whenever possible.

How the feck does he handle that? I used to think it was odd as feck Jose lived in the Lowry Hotel his whole time here while his family stayed in London, but that takes the cake.
 
Yes. He doesn't live in the city. Has an apartment in Manchester and flies to Netherlands/Ibiza 2-3 days a week whenever possible.

Also the players are getting more days off than probably any squad in the Premier league, by extension of slot being away as well. Never mind that the training sessions are said to be busier around the coffee station than the training pitch.

He's a deeply unserious manager who has decimated standards at this club. Which is why he fell out with Salah.
Is that true? Wild if so and totally disrespectful from Slot.
 
I think he’s got enough excuses in the bank to buy himself cover. The Jota tragedy, injuries, shonky recruitment, Salah and Van Dijk dropping off a cliff. They give him enough cover to blag a few months of next season.

It completely glosses over the fact that absolutely everything that could’ve gone his way last season, did. But hey, I want him in situ for a decade of rot.