My post in August.
Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald sack watch
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Imran (@Annihilate Now!) & Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to discuss disappointed FA Cup exit at the hands of Brighton - confirming our shortest season in over 100 years. They also discuss the news that Michael Carrick is set to be United's manager until the end of the season.
Any chance you posted about us winning the league, too?
I wouldn't say disaster as long as they make top 4. Disaster would be finishing outside of it given their investments. Sure, "only" making top 4 is obviously not according to expectations considering the players they brought in and money spent, but it's still a bit of a squad revamp so players needing to find their feet is nothing new.
At least brave Liverpool showed us yet again how to get a result at The Etihad. 
I wouldn't write them out of the title race yet, they have a favourable run of games coming up, that's the reason why if there was to be a winner of yesterdays game i preferred a City win.
Forest (H)
West Ham (A)
Sunderland (H)
Leeds (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs (A)
Wolves (H)
Leeds (H)
The fact that Forest & Sunderland are at home, with West Ham and Leeds as the away games in their next 4 plays into their favour big time. They should win all 4 and allow them to build up some form and momentum for the next 4 which aren't the most difficult on paper either, so i actually wouldn't be surprised if they win all 8.
I wouldn't write them out of the title race yet, they have a favourable run of games coming up, that's the reason why if there was to be a winner of yesterdays game i preferred a City win.
Forest (H)
West Ham (A)
Sunderland (H)
Leeds (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs (A)
Wolves (H)
Leeds (H)
The fact that Forest & Sunderland are at home, with West Ham and Leeds as the away games in their next 4 plays into their favour big time. They should win all 4 and allow them to build up some form and momentum for the next 4 which aren't the most difficult on paper either, so i actually wouldn't be surprised if they win all 8.
Why doesn't Arne do on-field post-match analysis of games anymore?
At least brave Liverpool showed us yet again how to get a result at The Etihad.
I wouldn't write them out of the title race yet, they have a favourable run of games coming up, that's the reason why if there was to be a winner of yesterdays game i preferred a City win.
Forest (H)
West Ham (A)
Sunderland (H)
Leeds (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs (A)
Wolves (H)
Leeds (H)
The fact that Forest & Sunderland are at home, with West Ham and Leeds as the away games in their next 4 plays into their favour big time. They should win all 4 and allow them to build up some form and momentum for the next 4 which aren't the most difficult on paper either, so i actually wouldn't be surprised if they win all 8.
I can't see them being in the mix for the title with 5 losses already. They'll have to somehow go unbeaten in the remaining 27 games to have a chance of winning it and even then it's fairly rare for the champions to have that many losses.
You say you wouldn't be surprised but I'd be genuinely shocked if they went on an 8 game winning streak. They were awful against City and haven't shown any evidence that they're capable of putting that kind of run together or that Slot knows how to fix things.
Palace (a)At least brave Liverpool showed us yet again how to get a result at The Etihad.
I wouldn't write them out of the title race yet, they have a favourable run of games coming up, that's the reason why if there was to be a winner of yesterdays game i preferred a City win.
Forest (H)
West Ham (A)
Sunderland (H)
Leeds (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs (A)
Wolves (H)
Leeds (H)
The fact that Forest & Sunderland are at home, with West Ham and Leeds as the away games in their next 4 plays into their favour big time. They should win all 4 and allow them to build up some form and momentum for the next 4 which aren't the most difficult on paper either, so i actually wouldn't be surprised if they win all 8.
Manutd (h)
Brentford (a)
These were all supposed tie be easy fixtures for them.
two weeks in dubai during the international break will do him the world of good.
Don't get me wrong, they are in a poor place right now.
However, their struggles have mostly came away from home. They've won 4 of their 5 games at home still. But they've now lost their last 4 away games.
I think if the games were swapped, and the likes of Forest, Sunderland and Brighton were away from home, then I think you have much more chance of upsets rather than playing them at home and having the likes of West Ham and Leeds away. Spurs is a bit of a wildcard but even they are playing poor at home.
Who the fcuuuuuk arrrreee manutd?
While they're at it, they should ask why they're nearly always given obscene amounts of extra time when they're not winning.
No the feck they haven't? Seriously??
No wonder their fans act like they do, even the club is batshit crazy.My point was more that all the talk ahead of the 13/14 season was that United would be top three minimum. The United fall off that season was a shock to all.
Everyone expected us to challenge for multiple trophies this season, myself included. Turns out winning the transfer window is almost never good.
From what I read. Liverpool started with a 4-4-2 which changed to a 4-2-4 to ho 4v4 against city's defence. City supposedly used to like playing with a back 3 on the ball and did so sometimes. But in this match had a mf drop deeper between the cb to help out and had two mf play as wing backs to give them 5 against Liverpool 4 players upfront. When city's wing backs were on the ball it was Liverpools Full backs that had to press them and they left space behind for City to exploit.
Alot of the time I read City had 5v2 or 1 in Liverpool’s mf. Wirtz moved in to help mf out but foden dropped deeper to neutralise this threat. Supposedly City pressed vvd and forced konate who is less comfortable on the ball into long balls to salah which didn't work out.
Sounds interesting so thought I would share.
Alot of the time I read City had 5v2 or 1 in Liverpool’s mf. Wirtz moved in to help mf out but foden dropped deeper to neutralise this threat. Supposedly City pressed vvd and forced konate who is less comfortable on the ball into long balls to salah which didn't work out.
Sounds interesting so thought I would share.
Nice..I like it
I think someone on here said that with a slight adjustment they’d have a pretty good shape for 3-5-2 eventually? The centre backs are an issue and Salah/Gakpo might not work but they paid big money for two strikers and a wingback in Frimpong.
Possibly but I wouldn’t be so quick to write off Forest, West Ham or Sunderland against them right now.
And there's a reason other clubs generally don't do this: they wouldn't get anything out of it, and might even get punished for having the audacity. Liverpool do it because they know they can. On the rare occasion that a decision goes against them, they treat it as if they've been the victims of some grand plot that must be protested. The countless cases of favorable treatment are then just seen as the normal order. The media facilitates this by doing the same.
I once did some research on the statistics, and they are (or were at the time; I haven't checked again since) at the very top of basically every "table" of beneficial decisions. Of all clubs that have been in the PL since its inception, they had the most penalties awarded, the fewest given against them, received the fewest red cards, those kinds of things. The stat for "disciplinary actions," which is the overall count of basically any refereeing decision noteworthy enough to be written down anywhere (so yellow cards and anything beyond), had them so far outside the norm that it looked insane when put on a graph. Like all the other clubs had 1900-2000ish disciplinary actions against them since '92, with no particular outliers, while Liverpool had about 1600. It went something like this, approximately:
Chelsea 2030
Everton 2010
United 1980
Tottenham 1930
Arsenal 1890
Liverpool 1600
Just an absolutely ridiculous gap between Liverpool and the rest.
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Look forward to it……..
Can never take a defeat on the chin.
Never rated this guy.
Love it, I knew this summer would set them back years.
Never seemed like a manager who could motivate a team to do what we witnessed last season, it just didn't make sense that he was that good. Was riding off the remaining sparks of Klopp's tenure.
Always the victims.
You seem to enjoy the tactical side. I was reading this thread earlier on how Pep has evolved City's out of possession game and how it worked in this game.
I really don't think you can really categorise a run of 7 losses in 10 games as being down to home vs away form.
It's been a complete collapse and they didn't beat Real or Aston Villa because they were at home. Neither teams played well and they both played into Liverpool's hands with their tactics.
You're right in that having more home games will help them and I don't see them losing 5 or 6 out the next 8 but I think it's really far fetched to suggest they win the lot.
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"Bald" and "fraud" do indeed somehow to go together perfectly, like fish and chips or -- better yet since it's without the "and" -- peanut butter.
So you don't think if Villa or Madrid played Liverpool at home instead of Anfield, they'd have had a better chance of beating them?
Just seen a post they’re in contact with ten hag
Inject that into my veins.
Greatest banner of all time by Everton supporters after the racist outburst by Luis Suarez, still a Liverpool hero, at Patrice Evra: Outraged by Everything | Ashamed of Nothing
Was it to ask for his thoughts on a suitable replacement?
Initially the reason for losing games is the long ball and low block. Against City is the referee although I don't know how one goal helps you win a game which you lost 3 nil.
Has Slot ever spoke about the problem being himself or the team? Has he actually identified the actual problem with his team? If he hasn't, fantastic! I hope he continues to blame someone or something else.
Has Slot ever spoke about the problem being himself or the team? Has he actually identified the actual problem with his team? If he hasn't, fantastic! I hope he continues to blame someone or something else.
Slot's lucky, his next 9 league games are relatively easy until they play Arsenal away on 9th January. No matter how bad Liverpool are at any one time, playing at Anfield is a cheat code for them. I think they'll win all the Anfield games in that run (5) and should beat West Ham, Leeds and Fulham away, maybe drawing at Spurs (who themselves have been shit at home).
Even allowing for say, an unexpected draw at home, or a surprise away defeat, I can see a run of, at worst, W6 D2 L1 from their next 9 which would probably comfortably put them top 3.
Even allowing for say, an unexpected draw at home, or a surprise away defeat, I can see a run of, at worst, W6 D2 L1 from their next 9 which would probably comfortably put them top 3.