Not saying he’s not a great coach, but the recruitment team also played a huge role in their success.
Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald sack watch
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Must be how they felt about those results we’d get under Ole and ETH whenever you felt they were gonna be sacked.
This summer and Chiesa shows a poor record post Klopp but we will wait and see how it pans out
I could well be wrong, but have there not been some changes in the hierarchy? Their business does seem to have fallen off a cliff.
He has enough credit to get the whole season. I mean this bloke only won the league last season and that’s huge. They’ll likely just finish above us too. I hope the wheels all fall off next season though and they can appoint another bald fraud from Holland
Not a chance they're in Europe too.
They'll genuinely look leggy around January when the games build up.
We literally are in one cup.
Liverpool have to contend with inexperienced players, a laughable back four with a joke of a midfield, and an inept manager that relied on Salahs brilliance last season. It's not going to suddenly fix itself.
Last season everything just worked, now it's not and Slot has no answers. Last year was simply a Klopp hangover there weren't any real changes. Now they changed the DNA of the team completely.
Last year was almost like being the manager of Barca in the Messi era the tactic "pass the ball to Messi", last year was similar "Pass to Salah".
Now he's got his contract he doesn't look the same combined with his age. You're bedding in Wirtz who just doesn't have the same space. Similar to Sancho coming from Dortmund.
Liverpool won't even finish top 7. A coach won't fix it either without pissing off a lot of the players. In the summer they'll get rid of Salah and then they'll lack leadership in the team because VVD looks like a liability every game now.
They genuinely need a coach that can build a team, who is that? Eddie Howe is the only name I can genuinely think of.
4 points from our last 24 available. 1 win in 8 PL games. What a run.
We’ve got the players to go on a run and end up 3rd or 4th. It’s whether Slot of whoever else comes in can figure that out like Klopp could.
Other than Arsenal the league is incredibly inconsistent. There aren’t any other impressive teams. All it would take is 7/8 wins in a row towards the end of the season mixed with some up and down results and top four is there. Villa have a decent shot at it but not sure how they’ll cope with EL latter stages.
I’ve heard this before when we’ve had rough patches under Klopp in 20/21 and 22/23.
We’ve got the players to go on a run and end up 3rd or 4th. It’s whether Slot of whoever else comes in can figure that out like Klopp could.
Other than Arsenal the league is incredibly inconsistent. There aren’t any other impressive teams. All it would take is 7/8 wins in a row towards the end of the season mixed with some up and down results and top four is there. Villa have a decent shot at it but not sure how they’ll cope with EL latter stages.
Nar, players have always looked far above thwir regular level when playing under Klopp. Very similar to Fergie in that sense.
The recruitment team suddenly look shite now post Klopp, coincidence?
Is Chiesa regarded as a poor signing? He looks class every time I see him get a five minute cameo
Regarding slot playing like klopp, i don't think that is true. Gakpo said to four four two magazine last January that under slot they were much more precise and patient and played shorter passes and that under klopp they would kick it long then fight for it.
From what I read about klopp, I hos last season, when building from the back with a low sitting defence, he would play 4-3-3. One 6 and two 8s. When building with a high sitting defence they would play 1-2-2-5-1, with one fullback pushing up as a winger and moving another into midfield. One of their more common formation changes was supposedly 1-3-1-5-1, with a holding player dropping into the defence when playing against two forwards.
When pressing, klopp supposedly went man to man. Against back 4s I read he gets into the man to man system. They did this by pushing a right winger on opposition cb, rb on opposition lb and cb in opposition left winger. When pressing with a low sitting defence, they supposedly set up in a 1-4-1-4-1, controlling the center and forcing the opposition out wide.
Perhaps slot benefited from the tough, fighting winning mentality klopp instilled in the team, but I think from what I have been reading that he did his own thing.
From what I read about klopp, I hos last season, when building from the back with a low sitting defence, he would play 4-3-3. One 6 and two 8s. When building with a high sitting defence they would play 1-2-2-5-1, with one fullback pushing up as a winger and moving another into midfield. One of their more common formation changes was supposedly 1-3-1-5-1, with a holding player dropping into the defence when playing against two forwards.
When pressing, klopp supposedly went man to man. Against back 4s I read he gets into the man to man system. They did this by pushing a right winger on opposition cb, rb on opposition lb and cb in opposition left winger. When pressing with a low sitting defence, they supposedly set up in a 1-4-1-4-1, controlling the center and forcing the opposition out wide.
Perhaps slot benefited from the tough, fighting winning mentality klopp instilled in the team, but I think from what I have been reading that he did his own thing.
I’ve not wanted to be too critical because of what he did last season, but I’m starting to think Slot can’t turn this aground.
We look terrible and can count ourselves lucky we got those late wins earlier in the season.
We also signed players for 450m and none of them have been worth the money.
Can’t think of anyone I’d like to replace him, though.
We look terrible and can count ourselves lucky we got those late wins earlier in the season.
We also signed players for 450m and none of them have been worth the money.
Can’t think of anyone I’d like to replace him, though.
If not Klopp, Fabian Hurzeler could be a good appointment. He's young and not really proven but he seems to be building something promising at Brighton. It would be a risk but we did the same with Arteta and he's been able to transform the club after Wenger.
If they wait, Alonso could be an option.
Can’t say I know much about him, tbh.
Going from Brighton to Liverpool is a big step, though.
Also, you sort of did it with Arteta, but you also did it at a time where you weren’t expected to compete for the league or CL.
With the money we spent on Isak, Ekitike and Wirtz, we kind of have to win stuff or at least be really good in the immediate future. And I don’t mean this in an arrogant, entitled way. Just that to win the league and signing those three for 300m, and then to not take it anywhere would be a colossal failure.
Not sure someone with the profile of Hurzeler is the guy for that.
Well, we went two matches without losing. Could be worse and after today misery loves company eh?
He's been massively unlucky in recent games after being massively lucky earlier in the season:
xG Last 5 matches:
Liverpool (10.08) 4-11 (6.52) Opponents
It all evens out...
xG Last 5 matches:
Liverpool (10.08) 4-11 (6.52) Opponents
It all evens out...
Jheeze those are some serious numbers.
Unlucky with goals conceded, maybe. It's very easy to counter against us though.
Nothing unlucky about our attacking play though, we aren't creating anywhere enough (don't care what the xG shows) and our finishing hasn't been good.
To add to this, based on what I read:
Klopp used to favour a 4-3-3 a lot, slot preferred 4-2-3-1, which could change to a 4-3-3. Supposedly gakpo was preferred over nunez and there was a change with Arnold and bradley. I read that gravenbirch was played more in the pivot role last season and did well.
Supposedly they played through the mf more under slot and played less longballs. Slot still used klopps vertical longball tactics, but reduced it. Van dijk longballs reduced from 9.2 to 8.9 and for konate 8 to 6. Supposedly gravenbirch was box to box under klopp but was a single pivot under slot. In klopps final season I read he only made one appearance as a deep mf. The other pivot would move forward and patrol the lines near the number 10.
The lb robertson would stay deeper under slot and initiate plays and recycle possession instead of getting on the end of things. Robertson staying deep drew opposition winger in, creating space for macallistair or a 1v1 for Liverpool left winger. TAA moved from rb into mf alongside gravenbirch or ahead of him. This meant Liverpool had many men forward forcing opposition to drop deeper.
Trent moving into mf allowed macallistair to move forward alongside number 10 and lurk between the lines. Supposedly the cf drops deep and they then have three between the lines, creating an overload there. From what I read klopp only had Curtis Jones there in his later years.
It was said that slot stopped counter attacks more than klopp. When attacking, he kept 5 players back. Supposedly klopp preferred 4-3-3 when pressing. Slot presses with a 4-2-4, blocking opposition cm from receiving the ball. With one less man in mf, they managed to protect cm with positional play.
Losing to Sunderland and Leeds would have surely been the end for him. Hopefully these two draws are enough to keep him in the job a little longer.
He's got to go, let's be honest.
Not yet!
Not really- he needs to stay to give us the hope that we can finish above a team that spent half a billion over the summer.
He’s keeping the pressure off United in the media / because the Liverpool brigade can’t critique United if they are below us.
We are having a terrible season so far and somehow we are still papering over the lack of quality in our squad.
Should be sacked for not finding an alternative to Konate.
He cost them big style again tonight.
He cost them big style again tonight.
The Isak situation was beyond baffling. He looks a shell of the player he was 6 months ago.
He's always had injury issues but I never thought he'd outright flop like this. I assumed he'd bag 15-20 goals minimum.
He's always had injury issues but I never thought he'd outright flop like this. I assumed he'd bag 15-20 goals minimum.
Come on slot you can do it. He is a good manager and i feel he can turn it around. Just need to give him more time and money.
Undefeated in three games in the league. Not too shabby. Has he turned it around?
Am hoping he stays until Oct next year.
I am afraid that he is done unfortunately. It was fun while it lasted.
Too early, they wont sack him yet. Not doing good, but not that bad that they sack him. He wins and draws here and there to keep going. Expectations are higher of course, but he won the league last season.
Inter away, Brighton home and Spurs away next three. That might do it.
Time to be game raising cnuts like in good old pre Klopp days.
You'll beat Inter
Is that 6 points out of the last 27?
Was in the pub for this, loads of dirty dippers, chants of United when dirty Leeds scores drowned them out. Was epic.
I am absolutely delighted with his performance.
United and Liverpool fans want the other to keep their managers.
The good times are back. Its a shame we're shit too.
The good times are back. Its a shame we're shit too.
Why oh why couldn’t we have gotten our act together this season? Would have made this so much more satisfying, yet here we are, a point behind a woeful Liverpool side, albeit with a game in hand.