He’s not wrong but that is a Mourinho style comment.
Slot won’t last too much longer. Shame
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He’s not wrong but that is a Mourinho style comment.
Slot won’t last too much longer. Shame
Loving this shit because it's going to take years to fix because of their spend.
It's glorious. The fecking off Salah in the process too to sour the fan base.
It's glorious. The fecking off Salah in the process too to sour the fan base.
Yeah he's done at the club. Konate has been poor but this isn't going to make him play any better
TBF. They don’t have issue with their attack this game. Even at 3-3, Isak nearly scored from his header. Changing the defensive system takes time even if you have adequate personnels and the right idea. Right now, it is a mystery whether Slot has the right idea and personnel.Imagine being Federico Chiesa. You bust your absolute bollocks to sprint back in the last seconds against Sunderland to clear a ball off the line and save your manager's hide, and how does he reward you?
Leaves you on the bench for the whole game against Leeds!
Terrible man management
Regardless of manager they don't have the right personnel.
They can sack Slot and bring whoever they like... they're in a real mess.
Unless the coach is going to play a 2 2 6 formation.
They have an aging exposed VVD. 2 poor fullbacks who won't cut it to replace TAA and Robertson and a midfield who honestly Casemiro playing alone looked better than them.
They need a new back 4 (literally) a dominant CM and to replace their wingers up front (Diaz and Salah) and that'll cost them another 500m (assuming 100% hit rate) and now the fan base has tasted success under Klopp there'll be unrealistic expectations.
Liverpool are in full down meltdown now and it's going to be glorious.
Imagine going from workhorses in Robertson, Diaz and Nunez to now.
Defending starts from the front, they've completely lost that which exposes their midfield and back 4. Who will go? The 500m in summer signings, not a chance. Terrible recruitment and planning.
Sure lots have said it, but it's feckin' mental that Liverpool will probably sack their title winning manager before we sack Amorim.
His man management is some of the worst I've ever seen. Yes Konate has been shit along with VVD and Salah. Yes the team is some what unbalanced and they've made signings that are not working out. But it's his job to get the best out of his players and make it work. Klopp would have had this team within 2-3 points of Arsenal.
Every interview I see from him, he's throwing a player under the bus. It started when they lost to CP and he called out gakpo for their goal. When he's not blaming his players, he's blaming the the opponents style of play or referees.
I think he's lost the dressing room, mostly because of this awful man management. His treatment (and public quotes) of the squad players is especially bad too, so god knows what he's saying in private if that's what he's telling the world.
Absolutely shite tactically this season as well, our set up is so bad, and him constantly picking his favourites no matter how they play is infuriating.
Can't have much longer left, I hope. He's not turning this around.
Could find themselves two points behind Amorims Man United and that's enough to be sacked for a team who are meant to be strong league challengers.
I don't think any manager will, the squads in a bad state.
Damage limitation season
That’s a good point. Amorim is having a pretty crap season but didn’t go into it having invested hundreds of millions of quid in a title winning squad. Expectations at Liverpool were sky high. To be doing even nearly as bad as Amorim’s United is astonishing.
They've essentially gone into a transfer window like they had Ed Woodward in charge
We shouldn't underestimate what a change in manager could do to this Liverpool squad. If we believe Slot has lost the players, then they will welcome a change. A new competent manager will tweak how they line up and their tactics to play to strengths and cover for weaknesses. They'll spend more to fix the holes as they've already spent a ton that to not now try to fix the gaps would be negligent.
Whoever ends up managing them will still have to juggle uncomplimentary players in Salah, Ekitike, Isak, and Wirtz, and try to craft a competent defence out of an aging captain and a ragtag bunch of misfits.
Nobody is underestimating what a club that's run well can do within only a few weeks of managerial change. What's eating away at me is what United could be doing in the meantime but we've being frozen solid in mediocrity by INEOS/Ratcliffe.
Good luck fixing the midfield and defence.
Systems can't change it, not can the manager.
Terrible recruitment.
I still think it’s really funny that they spent so much money and went into the season knowing they would have to play Cody Gakpo constantly, and no one raised an eyebrow.
He’ll come good and turn this around no doubt about it. So let’s enjoy this circus moment while it lasts. At least it’s redirecting many from our own problems
If they are any good, and have the boards backing they won't be juggling, they will pick a settled side and tactics and stick to it. It would either work or won't. Don't rule out the fact players actually increasing their efforts could improve their fortunes as well. We see it all the time though where a new man comes in and the players start showing up. Only under Amorim has it not happened.
Agreed. It's funny watching Liverpools troubles, but man I'm brought back down to earth by our problems. In fact Liverpools plight is less enjoyable because of how poor we are.
Yes, they messed up last summer. Just adding Guehi alone with how poor the rest of the defence has been maybe wouldn't have changed much. No one expected the drop off of Konate and Van Dijk. And then Kerkez and Frimpong offering nothing. Not sure the midfield can't be fixed if it goes back to what was working before. As I said further up, its amazing what a change in manager can do for some teams/clubs. Even in the short term.
But people could see the drop off of van dijk coming.
And if they go to the midfield they had before then that means leaving out their £130 million signing.
Then they have to leave a striker out from the two they bought in the summer.
Plus they’ve lost salah, the one man who could carry them
Good luck keeping all of that happy
Overated coach. Won the loterry inheriting Klopp's squad and system. Now showing why in Holland he struggled to best ETH to win league titles.
The midfield is fine. So is the attack. Its neglecting to beef up at center defence over adding Isak this summer rather than later that was gloriously willfully stupid.
It isnt. Its the depth in center defence in the bad state. They follishly neglected it completely in the summer. Yet even at the start of last season it was obvious they were short of at least 2 or 3 options and were simply gambling on Konate and an older Van Dijk maintaining form and fitness
I don’t see how you could say the attack is fine. It’s not just the Salah decline, they sold any legs they had. Gakpo would be a squad player at Fulham, but he is starting every game for the champions. Really, really poor wide options.
The midfield has 3 good players for 3 positions, then you are down to Endo/Jones, and they have messed up both fullback signings and are back to playing Gomez and Robertson there in some games.
It’s genuinely terrible squad building and they only have themselves to blame.
1. Salah going public with his displeasure.
2. VvD finger pointing and blaming others for his mistake.
3. Konate doing everything to get Slot fired.
4. Overpriced and ineffective Wirtz and Isak.
You got to love how everything is coming together so nicely
2. VvD finger pointing and blaming others for his mistake.
3. Konate doing everything to get Slot fired.
4. Overpriced and ineffective Wirtz and Isak.
You got to love how everything is coming together so nicely
My theory is this; they had a very experienced team that had been together for a very long time and didn’t need loads of coaching. They also had a team that was pretty exhausted by Klopp’s “100mph all the time, every time” philosophy. A much more chill guy comes in, which is what the squad wanted/needed and they’ve been together so long, when coupled with both major title rivals from the previous season being knobbled by injuries, leads to a title cake walk.
Come to the following season, personnel changes, the automatisms start to wain and it all goes to shit. The chill guy now has zero plans of what to do and just shuffles the deck, game on game.
The fans and the media will scream “but he won the league”, and whilst it’s objectively a compelling argument, context both internally and externally is key. He looks like a man that hasn’t got a clue how to fix the issues and the dressing room is now realising he’s no Klopp.
They’ll stick with him a while longer yet, but I don’t see how this ends with anything other than him being sacked. My guess is they’ll buy one or two in Jan, they’ll still be sh*t, then they’ll sack him when top 4 starts to look very iffy.
Come to the following season, personnel changes, the automatisms start to wain and it all goes to shit. The chill guy now has zero plans of what to do and just shuffles the deck, game on game.
The fans and the media will scream “but he won the league”, and whilst it’s objectively a compelling argument, context both internally and externally is key. He looks like a man that hasn’t got a clue how to fix the issues and the dressing room is now realising he’s no Klopp.
They’ll stick with him a while longer yet, but I don’t see how this ends with anything other than him being sacked. My guess is they’ll buy one or two in Jan, they’ll still be sh*t, then they’ll sack him when top 4 starts to look very iffy.
Imagine being Federico Chiesa. You bust your absolute bollocks to sprint back in the last seconds against Sunderland to clear a ball off the line and save your manager's hide, and how does he reward you?
Leaves you on the bench for the whole game against Leeds!
Terrible man management
Its quite amazing. I'd imagine that sometimes, managers need to make decisions based around rewarding effort and application over tactics.
Salah going off on his manager suggests that the dressing room is lost. Slot won't last much longer.
It's insane that the club decided to sign both Ekitike & Isla while the manager has shown no interest in playing them together. That is such a United way of doing things. Now they have so many holes in the 11 but a 80 million + striker sitting on the bench every game unless the manager changes his formation completely.
Fair enough
We just view their squad options VERY different. I rate Gakpo, Chiesa (who slot hardly plays) and Wirtz who WILL come good. Salah is still useful in a right system, Hugo and Isak are star quality, whilst Rio is potential. That for me is a good enough attack.
In midfield Gravenberch, MacCalister, Szoboslai, Jones, Endo as a selection is a better selection than 90% of teams in the league. So its not a problem by any stretch of the imagination
In defence or defensively is where ALL the issues arise:
In defensive midfield NO competitive alternative to Gravenberch was signed.
At fullback. Kerkez is far better than Slot has made him look.(Wrongly trying to use him like Robertson) As is Frimpong (who he has tried to use like TAA which is laughble) .
It's center defence where they are truly on a madness! They didn't care VDV was closer to his last legs and Konate was having an extended purple patch with injury and arguably form last season. Yet Robertson was getting older and TAA was leaving. With Gomez the back up a full time crock.
They were supposed to pay better attention to that department. Guehi and another senior cb should have been prioities ovee adding Isak. Alongside getting a promising kid like Leone.
Slot should also have changed how the defence played. Instead of imagining VDV and Konate were going to do another season of defending at the back as a 2, with a Kerkez as a pseudo cb ala Robertson. Which his game is not built for.
It is but then again they still have some sort of standards and high expectations. Where as since Ineos and Ratcliffe came in we've stuck in a ''trust the process'' doom spiral. That'll probably culminate in us becoming a very solid and established 7th-10th mid-table side.
Apparently Everton legend John Heitinga was the one holding the dressing room together. 
Apparently Everton legend John Heitinga was the one holding the dressing room together.
Wonder if John is reading that now and thinking to himself that he never should have taken the Ajax gig.
Has anyone from Liverpool ever talked about the reasons, why they bought both Isak and Ekitike? That’s just so weird to me and makes no sense at all.
It feels as though they went for Isak early and promised the player they’d sign him if possible. The saga dragged, they picked up Ekitike to cover their bases, then he went on strike, and Newcastle decided to sell for mega money.
Does feel poorly planned and managed. Spending 120m on a player who has no pre season, went on strike and wasn’t even needed is utterly bizarre.
That’s close to my interpretation of the whole thing. Insane way to handle this much cash.
And even without buying Ektitike, Isak was severely overpriced.
It’s called relative expectations. Moyes was fired early on because he took over a title winning team and turned them into relative shite.
Slot’s first season now looks more and more like an outlier, and he effectively turned a team that dominated english football for the better of the last decade into a team in turmoil.
So yeah, Slot turned great into shite, whereas Amorim turned « shite » into « a bit less shite »
And it’s funny to use the « standards » argument when Liverpool have had a textbook summer of mismanagement and very poor leadership
Is he gone yet?
Didn't need to go all out on Isak as Ekitike is excellent. Should have focused on a CB whether that be Guehi or someone else. They're so weak down the middle.
Give him the rest of the month to turn it around. Please