Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald sack watch

It's insane that the club decided to sign both Ekitike & Isla while the manager has shown no interest in playing them together. That is such a United way of doing things. Now they have so many holes in the 11 but a 80 million + striker sitting on the bench every game unless the manager changes his formation completely.
This is after Liverpool for years having great success with essentially no striker. Firmino a converted false 9 and even Diaz played there last year often, Mane before that. After Nunez was a flop.

Failing to see it’s not a striker focused team while Salah is there and then spending their entire savings on two strikers. Wirtz as false 9 would have made more sense without either of them.
 
It feels as though they went for Isak early and promised the player they’d sign him if possible. The saga dragged, they picked up Ekitike to cover their bases, then he went on strike, and Newcastle decided to sell for mega money.

Does feel poorly planned and managed. Spending 120m on a player who has no pre season, went on strike and wasn’t even needed is utterly bizarre.
The funny thing is if they’d just let Newcastle get Ekitike, or accepted Ekitike as their only striker they would have been in much better shape. Isak would have arrived in early August probably if they let Newcastle get Ekitike.
 
The funny thing is if they’d just let Newcastle get Ekitike, or accepted Ekitike as their only striker they would have been in much better shape. Isak would have arrived in early August probably if they let Newcastle get Ekitike.
They tried to be cute with both Isak and Guhei in my opinion.

Thought they could bully both clubs and ended up paying a transfer record for Isak late in the window and missed out on Guhei.

Utterly bizarre business as if they’d have paid the money for Isak and Guhei early they could have got them in for pre season.
 
Is it all his Fault ?
Doesn't really matter. It's his responsibility and he isn't able to shoulder that. Even then, if I thought he'd be able to turn it around I'd probably back him. I just don't.

Example, it might not be his fault Konate is undertaking an epic fall from grace (but some of it might be. Hard to tell). But it's his responsibility to find other solutions, instead of giving him unconditional opportunity to further advance his fall.
 
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It feels as though they went for Isak early and promised the player they’d sign him if possible. The saga dragged, they picked up Ekitike to cover their bases, then he went on strike, and Newcastle decided to sell for mega money.

Does feel poorly planned and managed. Spending 120m on a player who has no pre season, went on strike and wasn’t even needed is utterly bizarre.
When we signed Ekitike, the smartest men in the room were briefing the press that Ekitiké reflects the desire to sign attackers with allround ability rather than specialists.
I was on board for that and on board for him and Isak together as attackers, it's been done before.
The slot goes out and says he sees him and Isak as centre forwards in competition.

So there was no plan.
 
When we signed Ekitike, the smartest men in the room were briefing the press that Ekitiké reflects the desire to sign attackers with allround ability rather than specialists.
I was on board for that and on board for him and Isak together as attackers, it's been done before.
The slot goes out and says he sees him and Isak as centre forwards in competition.

So there was no plan.
Crazy when those in competition are one costing 70m and the other 120m
Who does that?
 
This is all very United from Liverpool this season. Buying superstars without a proper plan of how to integrate them, overlooking obvious flaws with the balance of their team despite a massive spend and Salah coming out dropping a bomb like he did last night. It's nice to see another team have to deal with these problems for a change, rather than the constant of it always being us grabbing these headlines.
 
Crazy when those in competition are one costing 70m and the other 120m
Who does that?
Barcelona with Suarez and Griezzman?

It honestly feels as thought through as Barcelonas transfer strategy in that period. How could there be no plan?
 
Barcelona with Suarez and Griezzman?

It honestly feels as thought through as Barcelonas transfer strategy in that period. How could there be no plan?
Yeah perhaps. But in the PL who can make signings that cost that amount and then say they are in competition with each other to play. I mean imagine buying someone for 120m then giving him the talk that he is in competition. That surely affects the confidence before a ball is even kicked
 
When we signed Ekitike, the smartest men in the room were briefing the press that Ekitiké reflects the desire to sign attackers with allround ability rather than specialists.
I was on board for that and on board for him and Isak together as attackers, it's been done before.
The slot goes out and says he sees him and Isak as centre forwards in competition.

So there was no plan.

I think I said a few times that both Isak and Ekitike are central players. I was told they can play off the left but their career numbers suggested not. Even Wirtz is better central.

Seemed you signed a bunch of players who play through the same areas whilst arguably selling your best wide man in Diaz.
 
I think I said a few times that both Isak and Ekitike are central players. I was told they can play off the left but their career numbers suggested not. Even Wirtz is better central.

Seemed you signed a bunch of players who play through the same areas whilst arguably selling your best wide man in Diaz.
Even if they both are central there's ways to make that work. If you were wanting to make it work like that.

But we never did. So now we actually have a problem with one being the odd one out rather than two solutions.
 
Even if they both are central there's ways to make that work. If you were wanting to make it work like that.

But we never did. So now we actually have a problem with one being the odd one out rather than two solutions.
Ironically I think you'd be better off playing Amorim's system. You haven't got any exceptional wide players (particularly now with this Salah situation) and you've got players like Frimpong and Kerkez who would be better wing backs than full backs. If you signed a couple of centre backs you'd probably be fairly well equipped for it.
 
Is this really that controversial? I mean, it’s obvious to anyone who has watched their games. If he was asked directly about it, I don’t think this quote is all that bad.
It's not. If anything, it's too soft. Leaving in the possible inference that the so-called crimes "just happen" around him these days instead of being the actual guy responsible for said crime scene.
 
Barcelona with Suarez and Griezzman?

It honestly feels as thought through as Barcelonas transfer strategy in that period. How could there be no plan?
Your sporting director's probably preparing a fresh CV.
 
I don't think you can judge him this year while they are off the juice. Let's see them next season when they are back on it and if he still can't get a tune out of them then sack him.
 
I don't think you can judge him this year while they are off the juice. Let's see them next season when they are back on it and if he still can't get a tune out of them then sack him.
I honestly think Liverpool should give him a long run, minimum five years. He’s already doing excellent work alienating the underperformers like Konaté and Salah, and maybe even Van Dijk if he’s feeling brave, Dutch connection aside. This is exactly the kind of project they need. Stick with this Dutch gem and back him fully, for a very long time.
 
Doesn't really matter. It's his responsibility and he isn't able to shoulder that. Even then, if I thought he'd be able to turn it around I'd probably back him. I just don't.

Example, it might not be his fault Konate is undertaking an epic fall from grace (but some of it might be. Hard to tell). But it's his responsibility to find other solutions, instead of giving him unconditional opportunity to further advance his fall.
Who would you put in instead of Konate ?
 
Doesn't really matter. It's his responsibility and he isn't able to shoulder that. Even then, if I thought he'd be able to turn it around I'd probably back him. I just don't.

Example, it might not be his fault Konate is undertaking an epic fall from grace (but some of it might be. Hard to tell). But it's his responsibility to find other solutions, instead of giving him unconditional opportunity to further advance his fall.

VVD also
 
Feel like I’ve seen this post 28 times.
Not enough! I’d like to see it mentioned after every liverpool loss so it’s not forgotten what a smug helmet he is and how poor it was of him to try and make a mug out of a fellow manager at a difficult time, effectively proceeding to kick him while he was down. In fact, I’d like opposition managers to do the same to him after every loss, and even the draws to be honest (I don’t really as I don’t think it’s the done thing but I would still enjoy it….). The brass neck on the man when it turns out he’s not on some elevated tactical plane of existence…
 
Who would you put in instead of Konate ?
Anyone.

Start from the top of this list and work your way down
Gomez
Endo
Robertson

They'll all be better. I don't think I've ever seen a regular starter be this bad for this long at the back. We're well past the Lovren faultline. There's no good reason to persist with him.
 
I take it he’s no longer doing tactical analysis in his post game interviews?
He is. It's just that it mainly amounts to "teams have begun to apply tactics, making it difficult for us to score and easier for them to score against us and this has made our job very very difficult."
 
Barcelona with Suarez and Griezzman?

It honestly feels as thought through as Barcelonas transfer strategy in that period. How could there be no plan?

Suarez and Griezmann didn't join at the same time and Suarez was visibly declining.
 
It’s called relative expectations. Moyes was fired early on because he took over a title winning team and turned them into relative shite.

Slot’s first season now looks more and more like an outlier, and he effectively turned a team that dominated english football for the better of the last decade into a team in turmoil.

So yeah, Slot turned great into shite, whereas Amorim turned « shite » into « a bit less shite »

And it’s funny to use the « standards » argument when Liverpool have had a textbook summer of mismanagement and very poor leadership

Indeed, and every time we give a failing manager too long to fail over a longer period. Our expectations have seemed to lower over time.

Ole was sacked because he couldn't make us title challengers, Ten Hag was sacked because he couldn't get us back into the top 4 but now it seems Amorim isn't even expected to achieve that. At this rate before long we'll be happy enough to just be in the mix for a top 10 finish.
 
Bailed out by an idiotic decision from Bastoni and a soft decision from VAR. Saw nothing tactically today that suggests they're about to start dominating games. But could be good for their confidence. The Salah debacle has definitely bought Slot a few extra games regardless.
 
So happy with this result, utterly shite and the softest of penalties.
 
Excellent result I’d say, no chance they shithouse their way to another CL title like 05, and this should keep him in the job a bit longer.
 
Excellent result I’d say, no chance they shithouse their way to another CL title like 05, and this should keep him in the job a bit longer.
Automatic ban if they shithouse their way, which they are capable of doing and is more likely to be a reality come May 2026.