Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald sack watch

To be fair to him its not the first time the teams form has fallen off a cliff. Its almost habitual really. You look at the performances that Konate, Van Dijk, Macallister and Salah are putting in and it kind of supports that its their usual more than anything he is or isn't doing.
 
I'm happy they won tonight. Too many losses will hasten his departure. You need the odd win here and there to confuse the board.

He may have found a new use for Wirtz as a diving midfielder
 
-------------------Alisson
------ Gomez ---VVD----Konate
--Frimpong ---------------------------- Kerkez
---------Szobozlai --- Macallister
----------------------Wirtz
-------------Salah --------- Isak

Funny enough, 3 at the back suits them. Not Amorim's two 10s, but with Wirtz as the sole 10 with Salah staying up and Isak doing some defensive work.

Gakpo and Ekitike can rotate anywhere in that front three, Szobozlai can fill in at RWB if Gravenberch starts at CM, and Robertson at LWB. They just need depth at CB, for which Guehi seems like a done deal.

It's an incredible achievement in itself, taking a squad that's so packed with elite performers and feck it all up. Long may it continue.
 
-------------------Alisson
------ Gomez ---VVD----Konate
--Frimpong ---------------------------- Kerkez
---------Szobozlai --- Macallister
----------------------Wirtz
-------------Salah --------- Isak

Funny enough, 3 at the back suits them. Not Amorim's two 10s, but with Wirtz as the sole 10 with Salah staying up and Isak doing some defensive work.

Gakpo and Ekitike can rotate anywhere in that front three, Szobozlai can fill in at RWB if Gravenberch starts at CM, and Robertson at LWB. They just need depth at CB, for which Guehi seems like a done deal.

It's an incredible achievement in itself, taking a squad that's so packed with elite performers and feck it all up. Long may it continue.

Salah is gone at this point, I doubt he plays more than one more game.

AFCON takes the players in 6 days. I doubt he's back in an Liverpool shirt after that.
 
Gakpo and Ekitike
Objectively, taking off my Liverpool must be relegated at all costs hat, which I wear religiously...

If they were United players, you'd want both of them starting. Gapko is hot and cold but against us I thought he showed enough to demonstrate that he can be top class (may take years). The other, Ekitike, is actually top class (fan of his for years).

Isak is also top class (maybe not Halland, but a proven goalscorer).

So what do you do?

I'd play the three of them. And then three in midfield, two holders and a runner. Isak would have to be 9, whereas Ekitike can be 11 and Gapko/Whomever (Assume Wirtz and him are natural competitors) battle for the third spot.

They have, realistically, to do that or else get rid of one of Isak or Ekitike -- it makes no sense to keep both if you cannot play them in the same formation and the only way I see that working with the way they play is a 433 of some variety. 352 either, but as bad as we can be with something like a 352, we only have one relatively immobile striker (Sesko or Zirkzee) whereas they'd have two. It's not that neither can run, but you aren't going to get anything much in the way of hold up play and tracking back from two played as a two. So you move one wide as per Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez (we had two wide, and each of the two, it has to be said, was lightyears better than any of their players even as a 9, in their primes -- now, they are nowhere near that flexible, in terms of the job that Rooney and Tevez [even Ronaldo at times] could do out wide).

They created the problem themselves and have no idea how to play with it. It's their own error. It's their midfield and defense which whatever about last season that I think is wank.
 
He launched attack on VDV for that tackle. This guy is shameless.
"You can't try to block my 150 mil worth striker while he is trying to shoot".
 
He's dead right. Your framing is weird, you forgot the part where the 150 mil striker had his leg broken.
I'd rather have 150 mil strikers on the pitch playing, rather than being kicked out of the game personally. Even the ones that play for Liverpool
 
He's dead right. Your framing is weird, you forgot the part where the 150 mil striker had his leg broken.
I'd rather have 150 mil strikers on the pitch playing, rather than being kicked out of the game personally. Even the ones that play for Liverpool
It was a tackle which defenders do every game multiple times. Classic tackle with intention to block the shot. It was just bad luck.
 
12 points off 1st midway through the season (should be more) is very poor for defending champion after a near £500 spend in the summer the most ever spent by a Premier League club in a single window.
 
12 points off 1st midway through the season (should be more) is very poor for defending champion after a near £500 spend in the summer the most ever spent by a Premier League club in a single window.
The performances have been even worse than the results too. He absolutely has to go.

I'd maybe excuse him if we were adapting to a system that can work for us going forward but he's making us play relegation contender type football - sit back, don't press, don't create, don't take risks. It's pathetic.
 
The performances have been even worse than the results too. He absolutely has to go.

I'd maybe excuse him if we were adapting to a system that can work for us going forward but he's making us play relegation contender type football - sit back, don't press, don't create, don't take risks. It's pathetic.
That’s the key point; the league table is flattering to them. They deserved about 6 points from the 5 they won on the bounce at the start of the season. Newcastle battered them with 10 men.

Unless the wheels come off spectacularly, I reckon the title and the Jota situation will provide enough mitigation for them to stick with him, but he’ll be gone in the first few months of next season.
 
The performances have been even worse than the results too. He absolutely has to go.

I'd maybe excuse him if we were adapting to a system that can work for us going forward but he's making us play relegation contender type football - sit back, don't press, don't create, don't take risks. It's pathetic.
Not going to happen and you know it. We lost like 6-7 matches October and November and yet we’re still in 4th somehow. Every single signing bar Ekitike is struggling and Salah’s form fell off a cliff in a the toughest league in the world. Yet we’re still 4th, haven’t lost in months and are ahead of the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and the rest of the also rans.
 
Not going to happen and you know it. We lost like 6-7 matches October and November and yet we’re still in 4th somehow. Every single signing bar Ekitike is struggling and Salah’s form fell off a cliff in a the toughest league in the world. Yet we’re still 4th, haven’t lost in months and are ahead of the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and the rest of the also rans.
Pluralising "months" amused me. You were getting battered by Forest and PSV in late November.
 
Not going to happen and you know it. We lost like 6-7 matches October and November and yet we’re still in 4th somehow. Every single signing bar Ekitike is struggling and Salah’s form fell off a cliff in a the toughest league in the world. Yet we’re still 4th, haven’t lost in months and are ahead of the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and the rest of the also rans.
Oddly the boos at Anfield today suggests most match going fans agree with @DennisReynolds
 
But it's similar to us, if they didn't sack him during their absolutely rotten run, they won't for a draw with Leeds
My point. We’re in 4th. I mean any reasonable person has to know he’s not going to get sacked. Miserable season but not as bad as some other teams. As for being similar with united, not even close with Ruben having a nightmare two seasons running.
 
Right. Maybe a handful. Nothing like the booing that occurs weekly by the majority of fans at OT. That I could never understand. Anyway a miserable game.
Why can't you understand the boos at Old Trafford? You literally said in your previous post that Amorim is having a nightmare two seasons running. Therefore, the boos are understandable, no?
 
They are top 4, qualified in the CL stages and the window is open. He won the league last season. They could still kick on
 
Why can't you understand the boos at Old Trafford? You literally said in your previous post that Amorim is having a nightmare two seasons running. Therefore, the boos are understandable, no?
No. I don’t understand booing your own. Never did. Against other teams and decisions yes, but against your own team and players is just not me personally.
 
No. I don’t understand booing your own. Never did. Against other teams and decisions yes, but against your own team and players is just not me personally.
Booing is a pretty mild way for fans to express their discontent. Amorim has gotten off far lighter amongst the Old Trafford crowd than he would have done had he managed almost any other club in Europe with his win ratio after 13 months.

Don't bother engaging him. He's the worse of the wums on here, as you can see by his post history.
Ah, fair enough. 25 years of wumming is some commitment.
 
No. I don’t understand booing your own. Never did. Against other teams and decisions yes, but against your own team and players is just not me personally.
I'd like to think the boos are sign of the fans not accepting what his happening on the pitch. Whether it's towards the manager or the owners.

Fans pay big money to get tickets to games, but when results arent getting any better, of course you're going to show your frustration.

Now what I dont agree with is players being hassled leaving the stadium to go home. That's not fair.
 
Not going to happen and you know it. We lost like 6-7 matches October and November and yet we’re still in 4th somehow. Every single signing bar Ekitike is struggling and Salah’s form fell off a cliff in a the toughest league in the world. Yet we’re still 4th, haven’t lost in months and are ahead of the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and the rest of the also rans.

I don't know, might not be the signings then
 
I'd like to think the boos are sign of the fans not accepting what his happening on the pitch. Whether it's towards the manager or the owners.

Fans pay big money to get tickets to games, but when results arent getting any better, of course you're going to show your frustration.

Now what I dont agree with is players being hassled leaving the stadium to go home. That's not fair.
I guess but I couldn’t. I wonder how many say it’s ok but actually would. To me no sound at all sends a better message to the powers that run clubs. Indifference is a powerful tool.
 
Not going to happen and you know it. We lost like 6-7 matches October and November and yet we’re still in 4th somehow. Every single signing bar Ekitike is struggling and Salah’s form fell off a cliff in a the toughest league in the world. Yet we’re still 4th, haven’t lost in months and are ahead of the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and the rest of the also rans.
It won't happy, I know that. I'm saying what I want to happen.

You think a switch in system, failing tactics and lack of leadership from Slot have nothing to do with last season's best player becoming awful overnight, all our signings bar Ekitike failing and most others not showing up either is a coincidence?
Oddly the boos at Anfield today suggests most match going fans agree with @DennisReynolds
Yeah maybe. Anfield was definitely flat today, but when you pay to watch that crap I don't blame them.
But it's similar to us, if they didn't sack him during their absolutely rotten run, they won't for a draw with Leeds
Unfortunately probably true...
My point. We’re in 4th. I mean any reasonable person has to know he’s not going to get sacked. Miserable season but not as bad as some other teams. As for being similar with united, not even close with Ruben having a nightmare two seasons running.
4th?? We finished as champions last signing and spent a lot of money. How on earth have standards fallen so low this quickly? 4th is completely unacceptable. Anything other than a CL win at this stage (won't happen) and the season has been a failure.
 
I guess but I couldn’t. I wonder how many say it’s ok but actually would. To me no sound at all sends a better message to the powers that run clubs. Indifference is a powerful tool.
The best the fans could all do is refuse to go the games at Old Trafford. If that's not a sign of we aren't going to line your pockets anymore, so sell or be hit financially.
 
No. I don’t understand booing your own. Never did. Against other teams and decisions yes, but against your own team and players is just not me personally.
I had the same way of thinking before Hodgson but at a certain point the best way to help the club is to get rid of people holding the club down. Get dirty and get dirty quick
 
Please just leave already.

Another absolutely rancid performance, we're the dullest team in the league.
 
It's like a race between Manchester United and Liverpool supporters to see who can fire their manager first. I hope United win that one.
I imagine Amorim taking aim at your sporting directors/board should see him win that race comfortably.
 
I was shocked by how much positivity there was in the Liverpool fanbase after the 0-0 against Arsenal. This is the worst unbeaten run I have ever seen. You would much rather lose some games than just draw them all
 
I was shocked by how much positivity there was in the Liverpool fanbase after the 0-0 against Arsenal. This is the worst unbeaten run I have ever seen. You would much rather lose some games than just draw them all
We had a similar crap unbeaten run with Mourinho and ended up finishing 6th that season.

I hope the Liverpool board don’t panic and give Slot the time he deserves considering what he achieved last season.
 
4 wins and 6 draws in their 10 game unbeaten run in the league which is basically the same as 6 wins and 4 losses.