Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald sack watch

To be fair to Slot, you look at that Liverpool team and it's really not great is it. 4th or 5th is about par.

Crazy when you think of the money spent.
 
He'll be gone in May/June if they fail to win CL. And then they'll probably bring in Alonso or Nagelsmann so don't think they'll be having many problems if fix right positions on the pitch.
 
Only their first defeat in 4 league games. Give him more time and he'll be winning another league title.
 
He'll be gone in May/June if they fail to win CL. And then they'll probably bring in Alonso or Nagelsmann so don't think they'll be having many problems if fix right positions on the pitch.
You shut your hole with this. Won’t tell you again
 
Seems obvious by now that they won the title last season because a) nobody else challenged at all and b) Salah carried the team with his last hurrah. There's no indication that Slot had anything to do with it, and anytime they aren't helped by outside factors, they're really poor.
 
Well I got my predictions completely wrong tonight, but it does seem that when Everton win Pool either lose or draw..
 
Too soon to judge, its still not really his team.

He needs a few hundred more million and a 3-4 windows.
 


"They scored a deflected goal, it doesn't count!"
- Man whose team scored no less than 4 deflected goals at the weekend.
 
Well I got my predictions completely wrong tonight, but it does seem that when Everton win Pool either lose or draw..
There’s only so much voodoo Scouse magic.

Checks out too, when Everton were flirting with Europe, Pool were down in 8th, and when the latter were flying high under Klopp, the blue Scousers were fighting relegation year after year.
 
They should look at changing Salah to a constant rolling 12 month contract as he's a different player when playing for a new deal.
 
Most 90th plus minute winners conceded in EPL history in a single season. Still have 9 games to go.
Mentality midgets.
 
Just to appreciate the change over the past 12 months, they finished with twice our points last season. They had 84 and we had 42.

Now we're 3 points clear with a game and have, look genuinely the better team and they're the ones now that have plenty of deadwood. It's amazing how quickly things can change in football.
 
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Just to appreciate the change over the past 12 months, they finished with twice our points last season. They had 84 and we had 42.

Now we're 3 points clear with a game and had, look genuinely the better team and they're the ones now that have plenty of deadwood. It's amazing how quickly things can change in football.
People were saying we were a decade behind Liverpool at the start of the season.
 
Think he basically needs to win the CL if they don't get CL football to keep his job.
Would add, I think (hope) he's gone with CL qualification too. Shouldn't be enough to save him, but yeah the CL trophy itself would.

We'll be lucky to get past Galatasaray though.
 
Would add, I think (hope) he's gone with CL qualification too. Shouldn't be enough to save him, but yeah the CL trophy itself would.

We'll be lucky to get past Galatasaray though.
I don't think it should but I'd be surprised if you sacked him if he qualified for CL. Think he might just have enough credit due to that league win.
 
Are Liverpool fans now more accepting of the idea they won the title last season mainly down to no real competition, still having a lot of Klopps setup in place and most importantly Salah having one of the most ridiculous individual seasons ever?

A lot of people were saying that last season and Liverpool fans didn't want to believe it but it looks pretty blatant now.
 
I don't think it should but I'd be surprised if you sacked him if he qualified for CL. Think he might just have enough credit due to that league win.
With how bad the performances and results have been, I don't think he has a leg to stand on. It's pretty much been a full calendar year since we've been shit. It's become clear after the fact that the drop off around March time last season wasn't entirely down to wrapping the league up.
 
Selling Nunez and Diaz and replacing Nunez with non pressing strikers and then replacing Diaz with more gakpo has to be the biggest downgrade in history.
 
Are Liverpool fans now more accepting of the idea they won the title last season mainly down to no real competition
Not really. We had 69 points after 28 gameweeks last season, which would put us 8 points clear of Arsenal this season. You could argue that maybe we would've dropped more points against real competition but so would they amongst each other if there was more than one competitor. Not to mention we actually dropped points in both games against Arsenal.

We were just by far the best team in the league and were regularly crushing inferior opposition, especially the lower end teams in the league. So no, not "mainly down to no real competition" imo.
still having a lot of Klopps setup in place
Certainly seems like it in hindsight, yeah.
and most importantly Salah having one of the most ridiculous individual seasons ever?
No, disagree again. It was barely even his own best individual season, let alone one of "the most ridiculous" seasons ever. Always amusing when this gets brought up though, "they were only great because their great player played great football".

The only thing which has been pretty blatant since pretty much the beginning of the season is that Slot is out of his depth and has no idea how to fix things on a consistent basis. We'll win a few games here and there because we have talented players but we should be doing much, much better with the players we currently have. Not just from a total points POV but simply how we are playing, it's always the same dull stuff - start of uninspired without any ideas, then push the tempo for a bit playing reactionary football, usually hasty stuff which doesn't end well, and even if we get a lead we are extremely bad at protecting it and seeing games out. All of that is down to the manager first and foremost, I can't believe he still has his job at the moment. If we sacked him we still have a realistic shot at two nice trophies, with him we can't see past a CL QF and likely another FA Cup failure this round or the next.
 
Not really. We had 69 points after 28 gameweeks last season, which would put us 8 points clear of Arsenal this season. You could argue that maybe we would've dropped more points against real competition but so would they amongst each other if there was more than one competitor. Not to mention we actually dropped points in both games against Arsenal.

We were just by far the best team in the league and were regularly crushing inferior opposition, especially the lower end teams in the league. So no, not "mainly down to no real competition" imo.

Certainly seems like it in hindsight, yeah.

No, disagree again. It was barely even his own best individual season, let alone one of "the most ridiculous" seasons ever. Always amusing when this gets brought up though, "they were only great because their great player played great football".

The only thing which has been pretty blatant since pretty much the beginning of the season is that Slot is out of his depth and has no idea how to fix things on a consistent basis. We'll win a few games here and there because we have talented players but we should be doing much, much better with the players we currently have. Not just from a total points POV but simply how we are playing, it's always the same dull stuff - start of uninspired without any ideas, then push the tempo for a bit playing reactionary football, usually hasty stuff which doesn't end well, and even if we get a lead we are extremely bad at protecting it and seeing games out. All of that is down to the manager first and foremost, I can't believe he still has his job at the moment. If we sacked him we still have a realistic shot at two nice trophies, with him we can't see past a CL QF and likely another FA Cup failure this round or the next.
Slot last season has lots of echoes of Martinez at Everton for me. Normally, a manager comes in because things aren’t going well, but that wasn’t why Klopp, or Moyes, left.

The incoming manager therefore inherits lots of things that are actually working. In the case of Martinez, he took over a defensive unit that was incredibly well drilled, had played together for years and knew how to hold a line, defend set pieces etc on autopilot. Him coming in and letting them off the leash in an attacking sense saw them flourish… for a while. But after 6-9 months, all those defensive drills slowly get forgotten, then the summer comes round and personnel change, and the automatisms decrease and then slowly it’s revealed that the emperor has no clothes.

With Slot, he took over a team that had been together a very long time but one that, probably like Klopp himself, was a bit exhausted by the heavy metal, geggenpressing, uber demanding style they’d played in for so long. A more chilled out guy coming in, dialling down the pressure and intensity was just what they needed… for a while.

The truth is, the wheels had quietly started to wobble in the last few months of last season, but they’d won the title by the end of January so it didn’t matter and wasn’t commented on. Come the summer, with players starting to age out, departures and new arrivals, all the cohesion that Klopp had engendered over nearly a decade was gone, and once again, the emperor is left stood bollock naked.

For what it’s worth, I think they’ll probably scrape fifth, which will keep him in a job, but he’ll be fired by Xmas, probably sooner. Second international break if I was a betting man.
 
I think Klopp’s stint used up all the luck quota for the next 10 years. Hard to believe most of the core of the team is the same. If Klopp was in charge, it would’ve been Liverpool scoring the deflected winner followed by celebrations resembling the scene from Battle of the Bastards in Game of Thrones.
 
With how bad the performances and results have been, I don't think he has a leg to stand on. It's pretty much been a full calendar year since we've been shit. It's become clear after the fact that the drop off around March time last season wasn't entirely down to wrapping the league up.
Who would you want to replace slot? Alonso?
 
Are Liverpool fans now more accepting of the idea they won the title last season mainly down to no real competition, still having a lot of Klopps setup in place and most importantly Salah having one of the most ridiculous individual seasons ever?

A lot of people were saying that last season and Liverpool fans didn't want to believe it but it looks pretty blatant now.

Not the competition bit. We had 70 points after 29 games last season. We'd be well clear at the top again this season (and the season before we won the title as well) with such a points haul.

But yes, Slot's contribution last season is looking more and more like reinvigorating a well-oiled machine and finding a good way for Salah to strut his stuff.

His imprint this season is utter shit. It's similar to LVG's death spiral, except we're also awful in defence.

Nicking 5 wins from 6 against the run of play in august and september is the only thing that has kept this from being an irrrefutable clusterfeck. We'd be below Everton if you extend our form from october onwards to the whole season.
 
Hopefully he has a bit of a run in Europe and they keep him for another season.