Themselves under Klopp.
Arne Slot | Liverpool manager | Bald watch
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Hopefully it’s earned him enough time to set them back years
No tactical analysis this time?
Too early to write off the majority of thier signings. Let's not forget we play them next and they'll have their tales up if they beat us convincingly.
But we would take even a 50% hit for their summer recruits flopping by the end of the season. They've done amazingly well in the transfer market since Barca decided to drop 130m on coutinho or whatever it was back then. Literally flawless. Expensive signings in the 100m mark are huge huge gambles and I'm surprised liverpool made them.
But we would take even a 50% hit for their summer recruits flopping by the end of the season. They've done amazingly well in the transfer market since Barca decided to drop 130m on coutinho or whatever it was back then. Literally flawless. Expensive signings in the 100m mark are huge huge gambles and I'm surprised liverpool made them.
Delusion.
It is not. They all look like a shit. Klopp will be back in few months.
It's called having an opinion. Use your eyes.
Reminds me of when we signed Berbatov and unbalanced our attack a bit.
Still too early to write them off.They will probably win the league again..
Still too early to write them off.They will probably win the league again..
Reminds me more of the Veron signing in a lot of ways. A supremely talented footballer at the wrong club that disrupted the midfield.
What's this Isak penalty he was complaining about, should it have been given?
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Nope. The rat was fouling the Chelsea player first.
I'm hearing reports Isak is going on strike until he gets a move back to Newcastle
Works all the time in football.
They should've gone for Guehi and not Isak, much more balanced. Not saying Isak won't come good, he will once he's match fit but a Guehi and VVD partnership would've been so solid.
I think if they managed to sign Guehi that possibly they would've switched to 3 at the back and wingbacks. Guehi, van Dijk and Konate as 3 CBs, Kerkez and Frimpong as wingbacks as they're not that great defending and possibly 2 strikers upfront in Isak/Ekitike and Salah. Or Salah and Wirtz and number 10s and Isak upfront. Or maybe back 3 was never in Slot's mind at any point and I just heard that wrong from someone
Behind Palace as things stand right now.
Absolutely not. He was also still complaining about the extra injury time at Crystal Palace
It's annoying how the media lets him get away with the things he says. If it was Arteta or Amorim they would be all over.
What’s the deal here? Did he have bad periods in Dutch football where he struggled to get his team playing well?
Arteta has been failing to get Arsenal over the line for a few years now and Amorim’s been a disaster.Absolutely not. He was also still complaining about the extra injury time at Crystal Palace
It's annoying how the media lets him get away with the things he says. If it was Arteta or Amorim they would be all over.
Slot’s won the league. Gets him more leeway.
Nope. So I'm interested to see how he'll behave in the face of adversity.
He did make weird sub choices with us at times akin to bringing on Endo yesterday.
Yeah he’s messed up with subs a few times in his Liverpool tenure.
All this being said, we’re actually a point better off vs the corresponding fixtures last season. This with us not playing well and struggling to settle in new signings.
United haven’t won a PL away game in a while so if we lose that then I’ll start to worry. I think we’ll win that though.
You also had a very tough run of fixtures. Still, can't deny even the games you did win were not that impressive.
That’s the biggest issue. Performances haven’t been great apart from Atletico and even there we threw a two goal lead away. We’ve played 11 games in all competitions and conceded 15. Really not the foundation for a successful season.
I think the Berbatov-scenario comparison is a fair one. They didn't need Isak and Ekitike started off the season very well. I thought Gakpo, Ekitike and Salah as a front three was a very potent strike force. I thought the side that finished the game against Chelsea was a very telling sign. Two midfielders finishing off the game in the back four in order to get all of the attackers onto the pitch. It just doesn't work that way. You still need that base and structure, and you still need the wider players to be doing their jobs defensively. There are spaces there to exploit that perhaps were harder to find last season. In their pursuit for even better-looking attacking football, they've gone too gung-ho without being defensively solid enough to make it work, and without actually putting the chances away either. It's the worst of both worlds.
I thought the mistakes that Slot made yesterday, particularly with the lack of balance and with the messiness of the side that finished the game were all the sorts of things I could imagine seeing from Amorim.
Their recruitment was weird this summer.
Bought 2 strikers for big money and a support striker in wirtz.
When they never played with a support striker before and now dont know how to fit in both strikers together in the same team.
Bought 2 strikers for big money and a support striker in wirtz.
When they never played with a support striker before and now dont know how to fit in both strikers together in the same team.
My friend told me he is building his galactico. I like his galactico in fact I would be happy if he buy more strikers in
Weirder than the strikers (ok, maybe not really) is replacing TAA with Frimpong. Frimpong is almost entirely useless in a back 4.
Not only they will get 150mil out of it they will also make improvements on the squad with that money. You can just tell.
I remember someone saying that in here two or three years back.
I was convinced they'll switch to a back three after buying Kerkez and Frimpong. Maybe that's still the plan and the failed transfer of Guehy postponed it.
Maybe playing FM will come back to haunt him. Winning team should have had additions, sure, but not that much and in positions they were already stacked.
A principled man (and club) would hand back last season’s Premier League trophy.
Turkey teeth, turkey teeth, bright and white, you could see them at night
Turkey teeth, turkey teeth, shiny on the outside but fecked underneath.
Turkey teeth, turkey teeth, shiny on the outside but fecked underneath.
They should have prioritized a Salah replacement and a new CB over two strikers. They are in a similar position to us now where their squad doesn't quite fit the formation the manager wants to play.
Last year he had a Klopp team, this year its his team.
I have to say Liverpools board is laughable spending that kind of money.
They haven't built a squad, they've played Fifa/FM with the money and signed such a disjointed team.
I was adamant in the summer in the transfer threads that football isnt played on paper and Liverpool will struggle.
Letting Diaz go? why, they should have just signed Ekitike and got a solid CM and a top WB and that's it.
Too many changes.
I don't blame Slot though I blame the Liverpool board for spending the cash like they did.
I have to say Liverpools board is laughable spending that kind of money.
They haven't built a squad, they've played Fifa/FM with the money and signed such a disjointed team.
I was adamant in the summer in the transfer threads that football isnt played on paper and Liverpool will struggle.
Letting Diaz go? why, they should have just signed Ekitike and got a solid CM and a top WB and that's it.
Too many changes.
I don't blame Slot though I blame the Liverpool board for spending the cash like they did.
It's one thing to say they've signed the wrong players or they're focusing on the wrong system with the signed players, but to say they didn't need a whole new bunch of players is just wrong.
At the very least, they needed to replace Nunez, Jota, Alexander Arnold and Robertson.
It is interesting how they went on about their business...
It might sound weird but I dont think it was the plan to get both Ekitike and Isaak... they played Poker with newcastle.
They asked for Isaak, Newcastle refused and decided well, we will just go get the guy you want then... they did not negotiate the fee, bid and paid exactly what Frankfurt wanted.... then Isaak had decided he wanted to move and Liverpool had to make that move as he burnt his bridges.
Diaz one made no sense to me, I get he was not happy with his wage and wanted more... something Liverpool could easily offer. He was a very busy player, his pressing and tracking is being missed by Liverpool.
They were always going to spend alot... I remember when VVD signed his deal, he came out saying there will be big moves in the summer and a big one, so it seems both VVD and Salah were promised big spend on the team.
Weird that a perfectly working model was working, why did Liverpool need to break it? 2 extremely big prices, £120m+ and 2 new 400k+ a week contracts.
This was Liverpool flexing their muscles. There was no need for this over hall in one window.
Slott can't hide anymore. He has to deliver this season. Pressure changes everything!
The thing with Liverpool is when they won the league last season they were extremely reliant on the players who were world class in the side Klopp built: Trent, Salah, VVD and Alisson. Other signings Klopp made such as Diaz and Jota were also very effective and underrated. Those players alone were getting results for them, a lot of the time snatching wins during disjointed performances. When the results inevitably dropped a little , City had fallen off to the point where they were too far gone, and Arsenal just weren't consistent enough to capitalise, so they just walked off with the league. It doesn't change the fact they weren't amazing for the last 5 months of last season, as shown in disappointing early exits in the FA Cup and CL.
Now, they've lost Trent, Diaz and Jota for various reasons, and Salah and VVD are no spring chickens. They've spent huge in the Summer, but this was perceived as them bolstering an already brilliant side ready to start their domination, when in reality the players who brought them the title last year are either gone or actually coming to the end of their career, and what that money was actually spent on was the start of a rebuilt, which requires a transitional period. Salah and VVD are almost irreplaceable.
Isak and Wirtz may just click and instantly start to deliver, and if City and Arsenal again aren't up to it, they could still be successful this season. However, I think the last week has rattled any illusions that they're just going to smash through another season as a serial title winning machine. The balance in their squad looks way off and the money could've been better directed in my opinion.
Now, they've lost Trent, Diaz and Jota for various reasons, and Salah and VVD are no spring chickens. They've spent huge in the Summer, but this was perceived as them bolstering an already brilliant side ready to start their domination, when in reality the players who brought them the title last year are either gone or actually coming to the end of their career, and what that money was actually spent on was the start of a rebuilt, which requires a transitional period. Salah and VVD are almost irreplaceable.
Isak and Wirtz may just click and instantly start to deliver, and if City and Arsenal again aren't up to it, they could still be successful this season. However, I think the last week has rattled any illusions that they're just going to smash through another season as a serial title winning machine. The balance in their squad looks way off and the money could've been better directed in my opinion.
They are lucky to have 15 pts. They were riding they luck for a long time. And people understimate how good Klopp was.