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Those Arsenal fans are funny. They talk about Spurs releasing DVDs because they have no trophies yet go on about the invincibles as if that is some sort of trophy.
 

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I’ve never heard the term “DVD” used to describe an East Asian person before. I live in Manchester though so maybe it’s a southern thing.

I imagine he’ll sit the rest of the season out then quietly re-emerge at the start of next season.
 

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So his criticism of arteta didn't go well with Robbie and co. Always feel arsenal fans are the most deluded ones.
 

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Please tell me this is the beginning of the end for this feckless channel. Nothing more than a satire of football fans. Sorry, that would put a stain on actual football fans.

Claude & Lee both going isn't a huge loss for Robbie. It's only when the likes of Troopz & DT float away then Robbie will really sweat.

Its channels like this that give football a bad name.
 

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I’ve never heard the term “DVD” used to describe an East Asian person before. I live in Manchester though so maybe it’s a southern thing.

I imagine he’ll sit the rest of the season out then quietly re-emerge at the start of next season.
Outside the usual places where people would sell knockoff DVD's "back in the day", you would get a lot of people (quite often of an East Asian background) trying to sell said DVD's in pubs across London. No idea how common this was across the rest of the country but it happened to me several times. Sat with a pint and suddenly had ropey copies of Face Off and Men in Black 2 being waved in my face. I think this and market dealers doing similar lead to stereotypes like the "Charlie Wong" character on Fonejacker etc.
 

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Outside the usual places where people would sell knockoff DVD's "back in the day", you would get a lot of people (quite often of an East Asian background) trying to sell said DVD's in pubs across London. No idea how common this was across the rest of the country but it happened to me several times. Sat with a pint and suddenly had ropey copies of Face Off and Men in Black 2 being waved in my face. I think this and market dealers doing similar lead to stereotypes like the "Charlie Wong" character on Fonejacker etc.
Yeah, it was a weekly occurrence at a pub in Fitzrovia a bunch of used to frequent when I worked that way- must have been about 12 years ago now. One mate used to buy loads of porn off him and he'd try and get someone else to chip in for the four for £20 deal or whatever it was.
 

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Please tell me this is the beginning of the end for this feckless channel. Nothing more than a satire of football fans. Sorry, that would put a stain on actual football fans.

Claude & Lee both going isn't a huge loss for Robbie. It's only when the likes of Troopz & DT float away then Robbie will really sweat.

Its channels like this that give football a bad name.
Troopz is a disgrace. He made a racist comment about Kane, but it was swept under the carpet by Robbie. Only reason being is that Troopz brings hits to the channel, although I cant think why.
 

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Is Troopz of mixed race in any kind of way, do we know?

And his comment on Kane isn't massively racist whatever he is or isn't.
Your saying that because he said it about white people. I gurantee if a white person would have said, he hasnt been booked because he is black, it would have been jumped on and considered to be a racist comment. We cant have it all ways, there has to be equality in life.
 

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How can Troopz get away with saying ‘ Kane didn’t get booked because he’s white’! Imagine if that was the other way round...??

Troopz clearly sees race in everything & making such an obvious race baiting comment needs educating too
White people don't get stopped by the police because of the colour of their skin.

Is that a racist comment? I'd say no. I'd also say that Troopz comment was crass but not racist.
 

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So his criticism of arteta didn't go well with Robbie and co. Always feel arsenal fans are the most deluded ones.
Can you expand on this? Lee Gunnar was likely pushed out or what? If so, why?

EDIT: @cyberman Got him!
 

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Please tell me this is the beginning of the end for this feckless channel. Nothing more than a satire of football fans. Sorry, that would put a stain on actual football fans.

Claude & Lee both going isn't a huge loss for Robbie. It's only when the likes of Troopz & DT float away then Robbie will really sweat.

Its channels like this that give football a bad name.
Are you kidding, it's great entertainment!
 

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Seems a bit OOT for Harry’s to drop their sponsorship. Fair enough to ditch the guy from the channel, but just one comment from one person is enough to tank the whole thing. It’s so stupid, everyone runs scared from even the smallest slight these days.
I imagine it's a small company and they don't want to take any risks. There are plenty of companies who'll sponsor anyone. I think we'll say Robbie promoting THE HOTTEST RPG ON THE PLAY STORE

RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS
 

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Outside the usual places where people would sell knockoff DVD's "back in the day", you would get a lot of people (quite often of an East Asian background) trying to sell said DVD's in pubs across London. No idea how common this was across the rest of the country but it happened to me several times. Sat with a pint and suddenly had ropey copies of Face Off and Men in Black 2 being waved in my face. I think this and market dealers doing similar lead to stereotypes like the "Charlie Wong" character on Fonejacker etc.
Face Offs a cracking film to be fair! :lol:
 

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White people don't get stopped by the police because of the colour of their skin.

Is that a racist comment? I'd say no. I'd also say that Troopz comment was crass but not racist.
I'd say no as well but it also has nothing to do with the actual comment. "Player X is not booked because he is black" that actually fits the context would probably be labelled as racist, whether rightly so or not I don't know. But "someone is booked because they are black/white/Asian" is the last thing that would pop in my mind during a football match. If someone casually brings it up for no reason when race is not relevant at all, it might give you an idea about where their views that they don't share might stand in general.
 

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Yeah, it was a weekly occurrence at a pub in Fitzrovia a bunch of used to frequent when I worked that way- must have been about 12 years ago now. One mate used to buy loads of porn off him and he'd try and get someone else to chip in for the four for £20 deal or whatever it was.
'one mate' yeah good one ;)
 

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Fair enough but I don’t think yesterday was down to amazing management. His side had what 3 goal attempts vs 24? They rode their luck and fair play they got the points
those 24 shots were hardly even worth mentioning tbf
 

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I'd say no as well but it also has nothing to do with the actual comment. "Player X is not booked because he is black" that actually fits the context would probably be labelled as racist, whether rightly so or not I don't know. But "someone is booked because they are black/white/Asian" is the last thing that would pop in my mind during a football match. If someone casually brings it up for no reason when race is not relevant at all, it might give you an idea about where their views that they don't share might stand in general.
He also said he hasnt booked him because he's England captain , implying favors against nationalities.
 

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The amount of chances Liverpool had to equalise was ridiculous. If Arsenal think they turned a corner then I worry for them, as they will lose the next couple of games.
They didn't have many chances at all. They had a lot of the ball but I cant remember Liverpool actually having a decent effort at goal? Arsenal look much better than under Emery.
 

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Jumped before he was pushed

Even better, I just found out he lives in Spain. Those comments on Africans or any other foreigners somehow being unable to assimilate are uneducated and misguided at best and flat out racist at worst.
 

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He also said he hasnt booked him because he's England captain , implying favors against nationalities.
If anyone wants to do an in-depth study of refereeing decisions, I'd be frankly staggered if white players and British nationals didn't get favourable treatment. Not because officials are frothing at the mouth racists, but because A) unconscious bias is everywhere and B) referees are completely unrepresentative of the players they are officiating.
 

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White people don't get stopped by the police because of the colour of their skin.

Is that a racist comment? I'd say no. I'd also say that Troopz comment was crass but not racist.
I don't get this? So white people can't face racism from someone's words unless they have experienced being treated racially in real life?

I personally don't think there was some wider racial subtext from Troopz there, he is too stupid for that. It was more likely the ramblings of a mad BludFam, but imagine that was DT saying "Bergwijn wasnt booked there because he's black"... If one comment is racist, so it's the other, regardless off whether whites or Black's get mistreated by police.
 

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Even better, I just found out he lives in Spain. Those comments on Africans or any other foreigners somehow being unable to assimilate are uneducated and misguided at best and flat out racist at worst.
I know 'that' czech player quite well and he's a great guy. Those tweets made me sick, definitely not gonna watch AFTV for some time now.
 

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If anyone wants to do an in-depth study of refereeing decisions, I'd be frankly staggered if white players and British nationals didn't get favourable treatment. Not because officials are frothing at the mouth racists, but because A) unconscious bias is everywhere and B) referees are completely unrepresentative of the players they are officiating.
That's fine. However if people want to go on about racial equality and black lives matter and all of these campaigns, surely everyone has to be held accountable to the same standard. Some one referring to an Asian person as 'dvd' is a racial slur. Someone suggest a player wasnt booked because he is white, is a racial slur. Let's not have double standards.
 

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I don't get this? So white people can't face racism from someone's words unless they have experienced being treated racially in real life?

I personally don't think there was some wider racial subtext from Troopz there, he is too stupid for that. It was more likely the ramblings of a mad BludFam, but imagine that was DT saying "Bergwijn wasnt booked there because he's black"... If one comment is racist, so it's the other, regardless off whether whites or Black's get mistreated by police.
Spot on. There's a lot of dangerous ideas around these days concerning what constitutes racism. In my view anything that creates a potential inequality should be challenged as unacceptable.

Is what Troopz said going to cause as much upset as if he replaced 'white' with 'black'? Probably not, but that doesn't make it okay.
 

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Spot on. There's a lot of dangerous ideas around these days concerning what constitutes racism. In my view anything that creates a potential inequality should be challenged as unacceptable.

Is what Troopz said going to cause as much upset as if he replaced 'white' with 'black'? Probably not, but that doesn't make it okay.
100% agree. He should have been pulled off the channel aswell .That would have been Robbie sending a statement of intent. Unfortunately the reality is he generates lot of clicks on that channel and that would be $$ lost for Robbie. Channel is a disgrace
 

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I know 'that' czech player quite well and he's a great guy. Those tweets made me sick, definitely not gonna watch AFTV for some time now.
Too be honest I have no idea who is the guy is. I thought it was Lee Judges at first, but it is someone else.
 

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the Arsenal owners must absolutely despise these guys, the brand is muck these days

granted the team have played the biggest part in that, but these guys certainly don't help
 

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the Arsenal owners must absolutely despise these guys, the brand is muck these days

granted the team have played the biggest part in that, but these guys certainly don't help
Channel started off with good intentions, however everything they do now is an act and for controversy. They are just a mob.
 

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Your saying that because he said it about white people. I gurantee if a white person would have said, he hasnt been booked because he is black, it would have been jumped on and considered to be a racist comment. We cant have it all ways, there has to be equality in life.
That's exactly the point, though. There isn't equality, there was vast historical inequality.

Lets see, in very most cases domestic violence is about men hitting women. So jokes about men hitting women are not all that amusing - a position you can take mainly to defend women, promote the cause if you like. They think the hitting is wrong and the cause is good.

If I joke about a woman hitting a man then it's not great but it probably has ironic, bittersweet amusing intent behind it, from someone on the widely regarded correct side of the argument. And it's still actually a joke about men hitting women and the prevailing inequality.

I'd concede the racism thing isn't perhaps as clearcut. But it's certainly the same principle in the context of Troopz's attempt at a joke.

Unless you believe women are hitting men all the time like we are supposed to believe the black man enslaves and deprives the white man to the same degree as what happens the other way about if the logic you hint at is extended.

Let Troopz have his joke.
 

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Worth noting that Robbie has a really fragile ego and whenever he gets called out he can't hack it but he's happy to dish it out to others. Gave it large to Jordan on Talksport but then when he got it back he couldn't hack it, got called out a bit by Bellerin and he couldn't hack it, got called out by Loz from the True Geordie channel and couldn't hack it. Now in this situation he's backtracking massively from a shite mistake and anyone sensible would have let Troopz sit out for a bit.

Look at video views last night though and you can see why he doesn’t. The clips with DT and Troopz dwarf the clips without them in views.

I also had a look at their most viewed videos on the channel and when you scroll you barely see any which are wins. The large majority are games which they’ve lost.

There is a way to do fan channels in a civilised manner and I hate myself for saying this but someone like redmentv clearly has the respect of most of the Liverpool club/players and although some of the players like Aubameyang have been sucked into the weird world of AFTV you can see how much the club wants to distance itself from the embarrassment that it is.
 

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Those Arsenal fans are funny. They talk about Spurs releasing DVDs because they have no trophies yet go on about the invincibles as if that is some sort of trophy.
They are within their right to gloat about the invincibles, they did get a trophy - a golden one