Pepe and Ben White for a combined £125m...
I'd be salty as well.
I'd be salty as well.
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I get banter and laughing at that one delusional post, but this is a bit much, especially for a supporter of a club that has risen from the ashes on more than occasion.
Here's how it's done:
£50M for Ben White
This is going to be a long season... 
Have a feeling this thread will be very active unless we pull a surprise!This is going to be a long season...
Cool. Your ignorant and clearly don't understand football.
You've established yourself as a consistent top four team for the first time in almost a decade. Still not on the level of City, Liverpool or Chelsea. Agree with you on Arsenal, although with a new experienced manager that would change VERY quickly.
Only reason Gabriel won POTM continually was for his passion and defensive recovering; usually from mistakes of his own making. Everyone else was largely poor and lethargic during that period. Truth is he has a long way to go before tapping into that undeniable potential. Its also important his English improves to effectively communicate with the other centrebacks. Our best form and balance is clear with a Holding-Mari pairing presently. People don't want to hear that as they're relatively unfashionable names but these are the facts.
I'm not biased bro, read my initial post and you'll see I was critical and gave reasons for each point. But perhaps your another one incapable of reading.
Maguire is a good guy and shows passion but makes too many defensive mistakes. In my opinion, spending that sum on him has held United back. He vastly lacks pace, which has been noticeable on countless occassions and is without the spatial awareness and required football intelligence that is crucial to be a top centrebacks (As shown marking his teammates from set plays frequently). Gets easily dribbled passed and embarrassed by opposition attackers, concedes daft fouls and recieves stupid bookings.I like his personality and ability on the ball but he is not a better defender than Holding. The latter has been held back by perrenial injuries but was ahead of Maguire at international level from their youth days.
As for Shaw, he's improved immensely for club and country but Tierney is still better at most things and has a higher ceiling.
I'm not offended it's your opinion but your mistaken. As I mentioned earlier, Arsenal's real decline has only happened under Arteta. Before with Emery, a worse squad than this one was close to top four and reached the Europa final. With the recent additions of Pepe, Tierney, Gabriel and Partey that squad should've gotten back to where they belong but instead have finished 8th in two consecutive seasons. That's predominantly on the inexperienced egotistical young manager.
Despite this Arsenal still won more cups than United recently and spent way less.
I wasn't calling you biased, more that most Arsenal fans will have a bias to their own players, & Utd fans will have a bias to theirs. Considering they finished 2nd in the league & we finished 8th, perhaps our bias is a good bit stronger currently. And anyway, just because you put up reasonings, doesn't mean that a. They are right and b. That they still can't be biased.
But Liverpool and Arsenal actually have won cups lately. What have United won in six seasons?
How do clowns like these are continuously allowed to post shit here?
I mean United has won three titles in the last six years, same as Arsenal unless this "person" wants to add the community shield as a title.
Christ, that's a solid coping mechanism
.Either we've got a bad bunch or most Arsenal fans are utter morons. Given AFTV and this thread, i'm leaning towards the latter.
@Mogget's argument is brilliant.
Random Arsenal WUM: United have won nothing in last six years
United fan: But we've won three trophies in last six years.
Mogget: Sad to see the day that United fans are celebrating about top4 finishes and treating as a trophy.
United fan: But nobody is treating top4 as a trophy.
Mogget: I remember when United fans used to mock Arsenal fans for that.
United fan: Again, nobody is saying that.
Mogget: I'll attend the open bus parade for Varane and Sancho signings.
Such great intellect.
Won more cups, the state of you. Not European ones though eh, Chelsea are bigger club now than Arsenal. Scraped 8th on the last day, counting the big Fa cup from two seasons ago, get a grip. Absolute banter club for years now, known for a ridiculous fan channel. Making a third bid for over 20m for Ramsdale, that's where Arsenal are. Do yourself a favour, take a picture of the league table before the first game, only chance you'll see Arsenal on top of the league for the next few years.
It must be painful that they've won a few FA cups recently yet Varane and Sancho aren't lining up to sign for them. Ah well, with another 10th place finish they might finally attract Zaha
It’s just Arsenal fans being Arsenal fans. Pretty sure they’ll go down the *insert player* is the best in the league in his position
Tbh, Arsenal have won the FA Cup under Arteta. It is their league position recently which has been utter shambolic.
He's having a conversation with himself.
Zaha would want to go higher. No point going to one mid table club to another. Their marquee signing next season will be Mark Noble on a freeIt must be painful that they've won a few FA cups recently yet Varane and Sancho aren't lining up to sign for them. Ah well, with another 10th place finish they might finally attract Zaha
Kroenke is the real winner here when he sees the fans of his club talk about how Rob fecking Holding is better than Maguire. Anyone saying otherwise is ignorant and doesn't understand football being their best argument.
I remember how they hyped up David Luiz when we got Maguire. That went well. Hope Arsenal keeps spending way less and their fans stay deluded as they are right now.
I remember how they hyped up David Luiz when we got Maguire. That went well. Hope Arsenal keeps spending way less and their fans stay deluded as they are right now.
Forget Holden being better than Maguire, this is even better.
Reading this thread has opened my eyes for AFTV, I always use to think they were the exception and were extra deluded for TV and rest of the Gooners are more realistic, it seems this isn't the case.
Go to London and you can find plenty of deluded gooners.
Bruno is a penalty merchant, Elneny showed he can be a good player and Xhaka showed in Euros how good he can be. I would put both of them instead of Penalty merchant and dab merchant.
Also not sure about Sancho, all he did was in weak league. Martinelli proved how good he can be when he was given chances. Even ESR who sort or revived Arsenal's reasons. Apart from all that Auba was played as LWF too. So you can put him instead of Sancho.
These two Arsenal posters 
Arsenal fans trying to stay relevant on a United forum. Fans of a piss poor mid table side! Pmsl
Rumours that there might be an opening to get Odegaard back with Madrid needing money and not trusting him enough. Anything under 40M i'd take him to play alongside or rotate with ESR. Over that and maybe pushing the boat for Maddison is a better solution with proven PL goals & assists. Leicester will tear us apart though and will probably ask for 60+
Looking more and more likely that we'll go into the season with Chambers/Cedric at RB which is a bit scary
Sambi Lokonga is better than Paul Pogba.
Looking more and more likely that we'll go into the season with Chambers/Cedric at RB which is a bit scary
Sambi Lokonga is better than Paul Pogba.
Some of you United fans are taking this far too seriously. I'm taking the piss but you still misrepresent my posts to try and "win" the argument
Lighten up, the season hasn't even started yet
Too much of a step backwards for him.Rumours that there might be an opening to get Odegaard back with Madrid needing money and not trusting him enough. Anything under 40M i'd take him to play alongside or rotate with ESR. Over that and maybe pushing the boat for Maddison is a better solution with proven PL goals & assists. Leicester will tear us apart though and will probably ask for 60+
Looking more and more likely that we'll go into the season with Chambers/Cedric at RB which is a bit scary
Sambi Lokonga is better than Paul Pogba.
Madisson really isn't that good IMO. Odegaard is a better option plus probably cheaper but not by much.Rumours that there might be an opening to get Odegaard back with Madrid needing money and not trusting him enough. Anything under 40M i'd take him to play alongside or rotate with ESR. Over that and maybe pushing the boat for Maddison is a better solution with proven PL goals & assists. Leicester will tear us apart though and will probably ask for 60+
Looking more and more likely that we'll go into the season with Chambers/Cedric at RB which is a bit scary
Sambi Lokonga is better than Paul Pogba.
Without the daily newbie post cap, Mo would be rampant on here
Fair enough. They finished six places ahead of us but that's not reflective of the difference between the squads, nowhere near. In 2016, Leicester had a worse squad than Chelsea but finished 10 places above them.
Our problems last campaign particularly the first period, was due to the negative atmosphere combined with Artetas insufficient managerial experience. Surely you see the big differences between 18/19 season and last year. We now have a better squad plus the league quality has declined, yet we're scraping into the top 10? It's the coach not players.
It really is, though.
I disagree. Player for player they have a better team, its that simple. We are biased as Arsenal fans, like they will be as Utd fans, but ask nearly all fans of other clubs & they will agree with Utd fans. That tells its own story.
Sometimes teams can be made better than the sum of its parts, & that's what we need to hope to achieve, but we'll still finish behind Utd, & it's not just down to the manager.
I think we are building the right way, concentrating on younger players & trying to build a team / squad that way, but it also means we need to be patient while players mature. I don't have a problem with that, as long as we see improvement, however I'm realistic, I don't expect a jump from 8th to 3rd or 2nd for example.
The new Santi_mesut_alexis (I can't remember his name).Without the daily newbie post cap, Mo would be rampant on here
In my opinion we both have managers who are not good enough for the level of the two clubs, yet we have finished 2nd and 3rd while you have finished 8th twice. That tells me there is a fairly substantial difference in the two sets of squads. I would honestly take more players from Leicester, Villa & Everton than I would Arsenal right now. I’m not even saying that to banter you either, I’m being honest. I respect Arsenal a lot as a club, and even feared you at times between 98-04, but right now you are not a threat.
I can’t help but feel like these last few years have been a bit of karma for the vocal Arsenal fans who hounded Wenger out. That’s their greatest ever manager & one of the true greats of the premier league, and they treated him like dirt. He got them top 4 every year without getting any real big money, that wasn’t enough for their fans, you reap what you sow.
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