I'm worried because Ornstein mentioned Jose to Madrid, definitely changes things unfortunately. When Mitten heard he might be gettable that was before they was talk of Perez wanting Mourinho back
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certainly does...i've seen it mentioned in the spanish papers as well so clearly there must be some smoke for the fire
Why isn't he playing a holding DM instead of Tchouameni?
May have to get off this train if it happens, know it looked done but could go back to Tonali deal if this guy and Anderson are completely off the table
Real's midfield is unbalanced. Camavinga and Valverde both offer the same traits as Tchouameni so best to sell one to fund a tempo-controller type midfielder.
If Tchouameni is a no go, then maybe look into something like Camavinga on a loan with option even though highly doubt Real would ever go for it.
The Casemiro that played for real is one of the best DMs to ever do it so that’s a high bar to hold him to.
Hes better than Casemiro defensively now as he’s able to cover ground to a much higher standard, nothing Case can do about it either as it’s purely age.
Because we need him elsewhere
It is telling that in the 2024 CL final, when Ancelotti finally had enough players available to chose who to pick, he picked Valverde to start as DM, while Tchouameni watched from the bench
Oh yes, of course
How much do you think he goes for? Do you think this is just posturing or genuine?
No idea
I think he's available for the right offer but I've no clue what that might be
Pretty much everyone other than Courtois, Valverde, Bellingham, Guler and Mbappé would be available for the right offer this summer
Pretty sure Camavinga was the DM, and Valverde had basically a free role. Even if you're right, Valverde is one of the best midfielders in the world so being benched for him doesn't mean much in my opinion. I think Tchouameni could be perfect in a double pivot with Mainoo with Bruno ahead of them. Very balanced trio.
I think United want 2x CMs around the 70m mark, so feel that’s what we’d look to spend.
I'm not sure but these players are out there. Baleba, Scott and Anderson are all good options, in my opinion. Can all cope with the physicality of the league and seem technically good enough to play under pressure and in tight spaces.
We shouldn't be looking at players who only tick one of these boxes. Players who can cope physically but are suspect technically, and vice verca. They must tick both.
Do you think Real would be open to a loan deal for Camavinga with obligation to buy for say £35m
Who am I, Florentino's son??? How the feck would I know
Well you are closer to the club than most of usWho am I, Florentino's son??? How the feck would I know
I don't think we particularly need money, so I would guess no, we would not accept loan deals for useful first team players
Should teams interested in him be worried about the injury history or do you think it's blown out of proportion
Should be worried about his injury history, though maybe not as much since Madrid appears to have an injury problem in general. Should be more worried about his lack of development. He's 23, no longer a kid
Wait... Youre not Florentino's son? News to us.Who am I, Florentino's son??? How the feck would I know
We need some kind of update on this even if its an Ornstein just pouring cold water on any hopes
So is Amad, yet people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with not developing.
I agree he hasn't developed as much as everyone thought he would have but I think a very competitive Madrid midfield, injuries, position changes etc have hampered his progress.
It is possible that this is who he is as a player but I would be intrigued to see how he gets on as a starter in a different team. If we can't get Tchou, it may be a smart option to get Camavinga and Baleba. You guys have expressed that you would be open to a sale at 40m, that is a good price for a player with the talent that he has, despite his injury history. The reason I like it for us, is that we would have insurance in the form of Baleba so if Camavinga doesn't progress, Baleba takes his place.
Yeah the big question is would we pay that for him, only thing I can remember seeing was something about loan with obligation to buy for £35m
If mourinho is going to madrid, there is very little chance Tchouameni comes here. He is like the modern version of what mou wants in a defensive midfielder, i d be very surprised if they are open to a sale for him. Only way he comes is, he tells em he wants to leave and go to us, like varane and case did. I doubt that happens.
Yeah hoping Mourinho doesn't go there
Does this transfer really have a leg?
Please stop playing with my heart. He’ll be a major major coup for us.
Please stop playing with my heart. He’ll be a major major coup for us.
Mitten believes so whereas Whitwell seems doubtful
much will depend on if Jose takes over madrid or not
This rumor just makes every other CMs we are linked to, look shit to me.
Scott, Tonali, Fernandes, Baleba. They all just look shit.
Oh no. Yeah, zero chance that Mou would want him gone.
Madrid are also looking at Emery. Long way to go yet before anything gets decided.
Wouldn't call all of them rubbish
Really hope he doesn't but fear the worst
For what's worth I think Camavinga is closer to a Modric or Redondo type than Casemiro
He's more similar to your own Mainoo
Marca reporting he and Valverde nearly came to blows in training today. Which really means they were caught hugging.
We need some midfield depth though
I think that currently you need more than anything a goalscorer.
The mid renovation might come in the future and with perthaps a new playing style, maybe even a new coach and new guns, but nowadays Man Utd needs to convert and create more chances even if the team doe snot control games.
The midfield renovation is top priority and despite it looking doubtful I hope this guy is the main midfielder signed
Yet if there still will be Case and Bruno there, you'll need a very big name a la Rodri to actually impose as a CM, not much because of Case, but Bruno it's not a player that likes to delegate the "management" and tempo of the team (he normally has one tempo, what he feels in the heat of the moment). In fact at times in Portugal this creates some overlap that does not gel as good as it should having fellas like Neves, Vitinha or even Bernardo. What I've meant it's that giving Man Utd finances and appeal, dunno if the renovation will come instantly or perhaps it's time to give a year more to what already is there and mantein the current "style" yet with someone that actually scores a lot to win more Man Utd already is winning.