Aurelien Tchouameni | signs new contract til 2031, to be official after the World Cup

This could mean one of real Madrid mids will be leaving, hopefully an opportunity for us.

 
I’m not convinced that he’s as great as people think but, if Madrid sign Rodri, I just can’t see them starting both him and Tchouameni and Tcho doesn’t look to be the sort of player who’ll want to spend him prime not starting the majority of games.
 
Would still mean they'd join United not out of will but force.
 
Very interesting turn of events. I'm not the biggest Tchouameni fan, on the ball he just doesn't do enough for me. But he would massively improve us physically, definitely a floor raiser.

I know the current market is the current market but I wouldn't pay 100 million for him, and I'm not sure the club are looking to splurge on a player like that either.
 
Rodri’s back issues mean Jose would be crazy to sell his best fall back *pun intended* (and better stylistic fit for Jose ball).

More likely Camavinga is on the chopping block. They don’t need as much fullback cover with the signings they’ve made and he’ll demand as big a fee from a desperate team.
 
So after all the crying and ‘ban Luckhurst’ moans, we are now seeing the substance in his recent reports. Never understood the whole censorship drive, if you don’t believe a report, then don’t believe it. That said, unless we are talking indy and similar pretend journalists who operate under the user names ‘transfer expert’ - banning posts is so overly emotional and childish to me. Luckhurst is a weasel and unlikeable, but is obviously an actual journalist. Either choose to discuss his posts or don’t, by all means - but outlawing his posts just seems.. silly.

If a journalist gets something wrong then so what anyway? We could always just refrain from discussing rumours altogether of course.
 
So after all the crying and ‘ban Luckhurst’ moans, we are now seeing the substance in his recent reports. Never understood the whole censorship drive, if you don’t believe a report, then don’t believe it. That said, unless we are talking indy and similar pretend journalists who operate under the user names ‘transfer expert’ - banning posts is so overly emotional and childish to me. Luckhurst is a weasel and unlikeable, but is obviously an actual journalist. Either choose to discuss his posts or don’t, by all means - but outlawing his posts just seems.. silly.

If a journalist gets something wrong then so what anyway? We could always just refrain from discussing rumours altogether of course.
Broken clock and all that
 
So after all the crying and ‘ban Luckhurst’ moans, we are now seeing the substance in his recent reports. Never understood the whole censorship drive, if you don’t believe a report, then don’t believe it. That said, unless we are talking indy and similar pretend journalists who operate under the user names ‘transfer expert’ - banning posts is so overly emotional and childish to me. Luckhurst is a weasel and unlikeable, but is obviously an actual journalist. Either choose to discuss his posts or don’t, by all means - but outlawing his posts just seems.. silly.

If a journalist gets something wrong then so what anyway? We could always just refrain from discussing rumours altogether of course.
Agreed.
 
So after all the crying and ‘ban Luckhurst’ moans, we are now seeing the substance in his recent reports. Never understood the whole censorship drive, if you don’t believe a report, then don’t believe it. That said, unless we are talking indy and similar pretend journalists who operate under the user names ‘transfer expert’ - banning posts is so overly emotional and childish to me. Luckhurst is a weasel and unlikeable, but is obviously an actual journalist. Either choose to discuss his posts or don’t, by all means - but outlawing his posts just seems.. silly.

If a journalist gets something wrong then so what anyway? We could always just refrain from discussing rumours altogether of course.
These newest rumors do not bear enough substance to start defending one of the worst journalists covering United. I'd wait a couple more days before jumping to his rescue.

I agree about the censorship part though. Transfer talk is all about rumors and speculation. As long as there's at least a certain minimum standard of credibility, everything should be fair game to post.
 
So basically, he makes things up out of thin air and he just so happened to make up a story that was confirmed within 24 hours?

Unlikely.
He’s made a load of shite up about this club. Forgive me for not pandering to it when it’s not even been confirmed. Broken clock analogy ain’t even correct for him. He throws shite at the wall and hopes it sticks.

He’s not got any sources, as proven this summer with him being totally out the loop.

*andy mitten said exactly the same weeks ago when the contract renewal was announced anyways so he’s hardly breaking new ground.
 
More likely Camavinga is on the chopping block. They don’t need as much fullback cover with the signings they’ve made and he’ll demand as big a fee from a desperate team
I could be wrong, but I’m sure I saw reports saying Camavinga is a lot less willing to move than Tchouameni. Obviously all changes if he’s straight up told to pack his bags, but…
 
Rodri’s back issues mean Jose would be crazy to sell his best fall back *pun intended* (and better stylistic fit for Jose ball).

More likely Camavinga is on the chopping block. They don’t need as much fullback cover with the signings they’ve made and he’ll demand as big a fee from a desperate team.

I think they would be open to selling Camavinga even if they don't sign Rodri however the player has been pretty adamant that he is not going to move no matter what. The initial talk about Tchou being the one to go really relates to that as he has been less dogmatic about the issue and whilst his preference is to stay he has also indicated he does not want to be on the bench and he would be open to a PL move. The biggest issue for us is that I just do not see INEOS paying what Real are likely to ask nor do I imagine we would be willing to meet his salary demands, would love to be proved wrong.
 
Would still mean they'd join United not out of will but force.
Andy Mitten said that Tchouameni’s stance is that he’s happy to stay at Madrid but if he’s not wanted he’s happy to play for United. Casemiro and Varane’s reaction to playing for the club should tell you that the club still carries a lot of prestige even to players who have won and seen it all.
 
I think they would be open to selling Camavinga even if they don't sign Rodri however the player has been pretty adamant that he is not going to move no matter what. The initial talk about Tchou being the one to go really relates to that as he has been less dogmatic about the issue and whilst his preference is to stay he has also indicated he does not want to be on the bench and he would be open to a PL move. The biggest issue for us is that I just do not see INEOS paying what Real are likely to ask nor do I imagine we would be willing to meet his salary demands, would love to be proved wrong.
Ineos will spend the money if the data backs up the player is worth it. They just won't spend stupid money for shite like Baleba
 
I’d be amazed if this happened. Even if Mourinho doesn’t want him (and the rumours at to the contrary), Madrid will price us out.
 
These newest rumors do not bear enough substance to start defending one of the worst journalists covering United. I'd wait a couple more days before jumping to his rescue.

I agree about the censorship part though. Transfer talk is all about rumors and speculation. As long as there's at least a certain minimum standard of credibility, everything should be fair game to post.

I’m not defending Luckhurst at all. I could not care less about him. It’s more the opposite, I’m very anti-emotional attachment to journos, think the ‘tier’ stuff and constant discourse about reliability every summer just makes me feel old, because even caring as much as people seem to seems like teenage stuff. To me.

Of course, there does need to be a degree of quality control, but the reality is, the window is just a few short months. We will all see what will and won’t happen within a definitive deadline of a few more weeks anyway, but the need to apply so many controls to off-season conversation will always be odd to me. Nobody needs to believe anything. Whether it’s true or not will be revealed soon enough anyway, let people talk about it if they want. But beyond the twitter chancers who change their names every summer and delete all their tweets, pretending to work for publications etc - why can’t people essentially talk about something they heard/read on the news anyway?

The whole ‘pick your ‘favourite journo’ between Romano and Ornstein’ stuff and having cults arguing on their behalf as if we are talking about Drake and Kendrick is bizzare. They are fecking journos. None of this is that deep.
 
If Rodri moves to RM, its joever for Tchouameni. Presents us with a real chance I guess.

Question is, can we afford his wages+ fee combo? And will it be worth it?
 
If it's not that deep, why do you keep writing paragraphs about it over and over?

Because the forum is full of several more paragraphs of something that isn’t that deep, so I have elected to point out that it isn’t.

Not to mention the more obvious answer which is that I am clearly now responding to people who are responding to me.
 
We'll get this guy.
Ornstein and Cortegana confirming the Rodri stuff makes me think it may have been in motion already and we've simply been waiting on that to go in motion

Would explain certain journos still dying on this hill after the 'extension' news came out about 3-4 weeks back
 
Ornstein and Cortegana confirming the Rodri stuff makes me think it may have been in motion already and we've simply been waiting on that to go in motion

Would explain certain journos still dying on this hill after the 'extension' news came out about 3-4 weeks back
The fact Mitten has said there is still a chance they sell has given me hope. He wouldn’t say that unless vetting it through a proper source in Spain.