Will city ask for one of the Real prospects in part ex/return for Rodri?
Aurelien Tchouameni | signs new contract til 2031, to be official after the World Cup
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Yeah unfortunately this does end our hopes of signing him
I'm staying firmly on the Tchou Tchou train at the moment. Ready to be gut-punched by the inevitable "Mourinho LOVES Tchouameni, he is absolutely not for sale" headline we will soon see.
Yeah I still can't board this train yet
Much warmer on this happening than Anderson
Would warm up if he was willing to push for move, still sounds like they want to keep him so happy to stay
Thing is, he'd love both Tchouameni and Valverde... We'll see if they make up or if Madrid look to sell one.
A lot can change between now and after the World Cup my friend, just hang in there tight.
I get the feeling this summer saga hasn't even really begun yet
Can definitely see a domino effect of sorts in a few weeks after Jose finally takes charge
If they sign Rodri, I think it becomes somewhat likely that they'll look to move on Tchouameni or at the very least they'll be open to having the conversation. I don't really think it makes much sense for them to keep both around when they also have Chema Andres coming back into the fold next season.
If he has Rodri he'd have to effectively move one of then on.
Despite what happened I would take either Tchouameni or Valverde, however strongly suspect INEOS took a very dim view of the latter's recent actions.
If Real brought Rodri in then they’ve got a big problem as Valverde, Tchouameni, Bellingham and Rodri will all expect to play every game then there’s also Guler and then Paz and Chema both almost certain to come back too which is overkill in midfield so someone will have to be sold with Tchouameni being the likely choice to be that someone regardless of whether Mourinho would like him or not.
Rodri will be the Tchouameni replacement surely. Starting 3 will be Rodri, Bellingham, Valverde, with Rodri sitting and dictating play. The others will play rotation/backup to them 3.
Exactly. He’s got 2 years on his contract, so they either commit and renew him or sell him this summer.
I’ve said before, this deal 100% hinges on Rodri going to Real. If he does, I think they’ll be looking to move him on for a good fee. My main worry would be Bayern coming in.
Exactly and I don’t believe for a second that Tchouameni who’s a CL winner and first choice for France will accept a back up role when he’s literally about to start his peak years
Did you get on board the Donald Love train? Cause if you missed it, I feel sorry, sorry for you
Yeah, both won't be at Real Madrid next season, deffo one or the other.
Not sure I see a better fit for Tchouameni than here if he gets replaced by Rodri, unless it's a swap and he goes to City and they don't buy Anderson, which would also be good. This is the first time I've felt this really might be plausible.
He is very much the mourinho type of midfielder to be fair...actually think hes the one mourinho would least be likely to sell...all aboard the va va valverde
Come on Rodri push that domino over which yes unfortunately leads to Anderson going there, however also opens up the opportunity to sign this guy
In keeping with my boring evening yesterday, I decided to give this guy's performance in Real Madrid's 3-0 win against Manchester City a watch given that I've been hyping him as much as I have.
Few comments I'd make on this performance:
- I felt Tchouameni displayed really good positional sense throughout the majority of the match. He played as the deepest of a midfield three in the game and was seldom caught straying out of position chasing shadows. He had a good sense of where to be in relation to his team mates, stepping into the defence when a centre back (often Huijsen) would push forward and holding position while the other two midfielders (Pitarch and Valverde) were more aggressive going forward.
- He was also very composed on the ball. He didn't give the ball away often at all against a City side that are great at pressing, and he did manage to find some clever forward passes in behind the City midfield press. With this said, his passing was generally safe. He didn't demonstrate the excellent range of passing that I think, for example, Elliot Anderson has.
- A final positive note I'd raise is that I was impressed with how he used his body to create passing angles and win the ball. He's got a tall frame with long legs which he used a few times to win tackles and interceptions, and he also positioned his body well when receiving the ball to open up passing options.
- On the less positive side, he's definitely not the quickest. People who read my post on the Ederson thread based on the game I watched of his yesterday will probably assume that I'm a human speed gun at this stage, since I said something similar about him. That being said, it applies more to Tchouameni than it does to Ederson. He is not a player who covers short, or long, distances quickly and there were a few times where he was caught flat-footed when the ball was played in behind him.
Overall, Tchouameni's showing in this match was solid as the midfield anchor. It didn't do anything to dent my belief that, of the players we've been linked with, Tchouameni seems to be the most suitable to come into the midfield alongside Mainoo and Bruno when Casemiro leaves.
Few comments I'd make on this performance:
- I felt Tchouameni displayed really good positional sense throughout the majority of the match. He played as the deepest of a midfield three in the game and was seldom caught straying out of position chasing shadows. He had a good sense of where to be in relation to his team mates, stepping into the defence when a centre back (often Huijsen) would push forward and holding position while the other two midfielders (Pitarch and Valverde) were more aggressive going forward.
- He was also very composed on the ball. He didn't give the ball away often at all against a City side that are great at pressing, and he did manage to find some clever forward passes in behind the City midfield press. With this said, his passing was generally safe. He didn't demonstrate the excellent range of passing that I think, for example, Elliot Anderson has.
- A final positive note I'd raise is that I was impressed with how he used his body to create passing angles and win the ball. He's got a tall frame with long legs which he used a few times to win tackles and interceptions, and he also positioned his body well when receiving the ball to open up passing options.
- On the less positive side, he's definitely not the quickest. People who read my post on the Ederson thread based on the game I watched of his yesterday will probably assume that I'm a human speed gun at this stage, since I said something similar about him. That being said, it applies more to Tchouameni than it does to Ederson. He is not a player who covers short, or long, distances quickly and there were a few times where he was caught flat-footed when the ball was played in behind him.
Overall, Tchouameni's showing in this match was solid as the midfield anchor. It didn't do anything to dent my belief that, of the players we've been linked with, Tchouameni seems to be the most suitable to come into the midfield alongside Mainoo and Bruno when Casemiro leaves.
Good write up.
As I pointed out yesterday:
"At 33.8 km/hr [Ederson] blitzes the likes of Enzo, Thuram, Pavlovic, McTominay, MacAllister, Zubimendi, and even Tchouameni - who are all down at 31.7-31.9 km/hr."
So maybe that data-point does provide some reasonable insight after all.
Perhaps you somehow have a warped view of how fast and agile CMs typically are?... and in turn you might re-evaluate what you thought about the main supposed draw-back of Ederson?...
It doesn't necessarily make me change my view that Ederson didn't look massively agile to me in the Chelsea match but it does cement in my mind that my choice of wording in my write-up regarding Ederson was poor. Saying he lacks speed was just wrong of me.Good write up.
As I pointed out yesterday:
"At 33.8 km/hr [Ederson] blitzes the likes of Enzo, Thuram, Pavlovic, McTominay, MacAllister, Zubimendi, and even Tchouameni - who are all down at 31.7-31.9 km/hr."
So maybe that data-point does provide some reasonable insight after all.
Perhaps you somehow have a warped view of how fast and agile CMs typically are?... and in turn you might re-evaluate what you thought about the main supposed draw-back of Ederson?...
I think you might be on to something with the final paragraph though. Not so much in terms of "how agile the average CM is" but more that prior comparison to Fred that I'd seen elsewhere in the Ederson was probably putting my benchmark for agility/quickness higher than it should've been. Fred, for all his faults, was really quick for a midfielder so having this comparison in my mind almost certainly didn't help when assessing him.
Tchouameni would be a great signing, if those latest rumors about Ederson and Fernandes are true. That set of midfielders could give us pretty much everything we need for the next 4-5 seasons. Still doubtful though, if Real will let him leave and if he even would want to come.
The Rodri interest needs to firm up for this to open up
Another Vini campaign incoming
They probably all seem slow when compared to Baleba but he’s probably more of an outlier, right? How does Valverde and Tonali compare speed wise to Ederson?Good write up.
As I pointed out yesterday:
"At 33.8 km/hr [Ederson] blitzes the likes of Enzo, Thuram, Pavlovic, McTominay, MacAllister, Zubimendi, and even Tchouameni - who are all down at 31.7-31.9 km/hr."
So maybe that data-point does provide some reasonable insight after all.
Perhaps you somehow have a warped view of how fast and agile CMs typically are?... and in turn you might re-evaluate what you thought about the main supposed draw-back of Ederson?...
could this guy be our Pogba?
I only see one striking similarity in those situations. Well, two I guess, he's French as well
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He's nothing like Pogba.
Very different profile of midfielder, would've been lovely to pair with Pogba though
Yeah this train is definitely not leaving Madrid station
Last season Baleba was the fastest CM in the PL. Tonali was the 3rd fastest, not too far behind him. Szoboslai was 2nd.
Valverde was the fastest CM in the whole CL this season (18th fastest player overall) at 35.8km/hr, vs Tonali at 34.4 km/hr, vs Ederson at 33.8 km/hr.
Ederson is really not that far behind Tonali, who is already one of the few fastest CMs in the PL and CL.
Doing a team of the season in a 3-4-3 formation is woke nonsense
Thanks bud.