He can play left back and midfield. I think hell be fine for minutes next season, assuming we don’t totally shit the bed in the cups and get into Europe.
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No chance. If we qualify for Europe we desperately need good depth to manage the schedule. He’s only 19 and he’ll get plenty of minutes. And I’m not even sure he’s behind Yoro after this season.
It’s unreal how great Heaven already is at the age of 19. The boy is destined IMHO to be a United and England legend.
There was some recent report where it said the hierarchy prefers minutes to go to Yoro and Heaven next season, over Maguire. If we do not get Maguire on a new (lower) contract, then those two will get more than enough matches, given we'll have some kind of European football and both the senior centre backs are quite injury prone. In all likelihood, we probably need another centre back who is built like a centre back and has durability.
Was solid in injury time, although just a few minutes cameo
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Not sure if he meant it but the foul that led him to a yellow card was a pretty smart piece of play
Not much to report but looking at the arc of his development Heaven is a fantastic prospect for the long run. But all we of him right now is to a job, and I can safely report that he’s getting the job done.
Can he play left back?
Hej must've shitted in Carricks purse since he can't get proper chance.
This lad was looking like a young Rio Ferdinand until Carrick came in, it’s pretty disappointing how it’s gone for him since then. I understand it given our CB numbers and their performances in general, but I’m a bit worried that he might fall by the wayside or look to leave if he’s not trusted a lot more next season.
I feel he's not getting any game time now purely because of Yoro’s price tag.
If he was English there'd be uproar. Young player being picked on by manager. 
Carrick should've put him at LB instead of Malacia, who was a complete passenger. Undoubtedly an error on his part.
Yep.
I was thinking about this, next season if we stick with this similar formation, we'll have the following CBs:
Maguire
de Ligt
Martinez
Yoro
Heaven
Heaven will be 5th choice CB.
Genuinely infuriates me that minutes were given to Malacia over Heaven.
I don't think being 5th choice CB for Manchester United is a bad gig for a 19 year old lad. Especially considering that a few of those ahead of him have had major fitness issues and Maguire might be off.
Yeah thought he should have come on over Malacia.
This place has spent the last 6 months apoplectic that Mainoo at 20 was 2nd choice behind our best player. Mainoo seemingly had that mentality as well so yeah Heaven as 5th choice isn't going to go well. Mainoo has shown you need to create a fuss to get games so Heaven and his agent will follow.
Maybe. Maybe Yoro has all around higher potential though and as such there might be more onus on speeding up his development. Also, Yoro is new to the league, whereas Heaven is brought up here and made it through the ranks at Arsenal.
I do agree though that it seems absurd to play Malacia at LB when the minutes could have gone to Heaven.
Mainoo had made a bigger impact at 18 and has played for England at the Euros doing quite well. Heaven isnt in the same ball park. He has all the time in the world to get more gametime and unless we sign a great new CB, the competition isnt so high that he wont be playing if his own performances are great. 8 starts is plenty at this point where he isnt as good as Maguire or De Ligt yet
Being called up to England means very little when considering players game time. There's a year difference between the two so you can't claim Mainoo is being held back and needs game time and then say Heaven has all the time in the world next season.
Heaven has shown he has what it takes and he's probably a more natural fit in his position than Mainoo is in a two man midfield. He needs serious game time or he needs to go out on loan next season. Kukonki can come in as that emergency 5th centre back.
It does too with me in theory, but Malacia has been gone since forever.
If he has shown in training he's getting back to full speed, he should be rewarded a chance as it does a world of difference in confidence for a guy who's been out that long.
Also when Shaw gets injured we need a "natural" left back now that Dorgu is out.
He'll get plenty of game time next season for sure, what with our injury record at CB, CL games and hopefully longer cup runs. Maguire or not.
Finishing top 4 and not getting insta-rocked out of cup competitions should in theory mean okay-ish minutes for Heaven.
I'm a bit disappointed he's not getting more now, though. I think he's been better than Yoro this season, and even moreso when Heaven is a leftie and that would allow Maguire to slot back on the right side.
I'm a bit disappointed he's not getting more now, though. I think he's been better than Yoro this season, and even moreso when Heaven is a leftie and that would allow Maguire to slot back on the right side.
I don't think he's better than Yoro. Yoro hasn't been great recently and might be better in a back 5 in general as lot of defenders are but I'm fairly sure he'll turn out to be the better player in the near future
With the injury records of our CB's, i firmly expect him and Yoro to be starting a fair few games together. At the moment he's 3rd choice, and you could make a case that he should be in over Yoro too, so he's definitely in the reckoning.
This season was always going to be hard on the fringe/young players.
But CL football next season and plenty of minutes to go around…Heaven will be fine.
But CL football next season and plenty of minutes to go around…Heaven will be fine.
Probably the player most affected by the system change. As others have said there will be opportunities for him next season in Europe.
Mainoo wasnt just called up, which yes it does mean something but regardless, he played as a starter for several of England's games in the euros.
And Mainoo has all the time in the world too, but because he was already a starter for England its understandable why he's a bit more intent on making sure hes part of the next international tournament squad. Thats the difference. Heaven needs to concentreate on doing well enough that hes preferred to our more experienced CBs for more than 10 league games next season - not try and play every week so he can be in the England team. He has no reason to rush, he came from leaving his last club for free to become a backup option at United and still has more to do to fulfill that before worrying about more.
What do you think Yoro has shown himself to be better at than Heaven in their respective time here?
I am probably being a bit of a fanboy here but I genuinely think he has one of the best CB prospects in the world. Possibly better than Yoro, who has a weakness - he is not great in the air.
Heaven has great recovery pace, good in air, strong, and is also a CB playmaker to boot. I am not seeing a weakness here except experience.
Whatever planning we do next season should involve him getting decent playing time. If not, we should send him on loan.
Heaven has great recovery pace, good in air, strong, and is also a CB playmaker to boot. I am not seeing a weakness here except experience.
Whatever planning we do next season should involve him getting decent playing time. If not, we should send him on loan.
Aaronsen roasted him. Dont think he got pace.
And it was made even worse by getting knocked out of the cups very quickly. Hopefully more chances for young players to play next season
I don't. I think that they've been about equal since they got here but I'm factoring in Yoros fee and reputation. I know heaven was more a niche signing and is looking like amazing value but I just think Yoro should end up being the better of the two eventually.
I recall that but think it was a one-off. I recall him easily keeping pace with Ollie Watkins in the last game of last season
I'd strongly disagree, I think Heaven has been significantly more impressive. More assertive in his defending, more confident, better in the air, a lot stronger, better in the ball.
Putting that aside, you said you think he will be a better player than Heaven but it sounds like you only think that because we spent loads of money on him and he had a reputation in France. That doesn't make much sense to me.
Mark my words. This young man will become one of the finest centre halves in premier league history. Outrageous talent.
Trained with the England senior squad today.