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Maguire isn't even a better PL-CB. He's feckin rubbish. I'd much rather see Heaven, I liked what I saw last year, especially against Leicester
What's a 'Grimsby'?
No idea why he’s not getting any minutes. We looked extremely slow at the back once Yoro went off and Harry came on. Ruben needs to stop making the same silly moves and invest in the players for the future.
Yeah I don't understand why Maguire even deserves time right now, he's been horrible when given minutes. Same with Shaw
We don't know what's happening in training, it might not be a good time.
Amorim has generally shown himself as a cautious manager since joining and with a lack of cup games, Shaw maintaining fitness, and Lisandro Martinez likely back in the next couple months, there’s too many bodies ahead of Heaven to get a real grasp this season. At least up until the new year it seems.
This one was very predictable, said before the season that Heaven, Zirkzee and Mainoo likely wouldn't play much. Not a huge deal with Heaven, we should loan him out though. You don't need a 20 man squad when you aren't in Europe. It's why Shaw has actually managed to stay fit for 2 months.
It might be an option to loan him in January if Shaw and Martinez stay fit.
Shaw is terrible. Maguire looks slower than ever. Heaven has shown fine promise. Unless he is stinking it up in training, he should be getting some playing time as the lad is clearly one for the future.
We don't have enough backup.
For CB we have De ligt, yoro, Shaw, Maguire, mazraoui and Martinez will be back soon. We also have Heaven and Fredricson as young players. You don't need that many options when you play 1 game a week. This isn't a season where you have European football - or even carabao Cup football. We will have 6 senior options for CB when Martinez returns not including Heaven or Fredricson. Just way too many.
Considering how often they get injured, I would say it's better to keep him. Also they don't all fit this style of play, so he might not be as far away from game time as you think.
I definitely think we'll loan loan him in January but the club wanted 2 players per position in the meantime
Yea that's fair, I think it would be good for him, but I understand holding onto him while we had injuries.
Yeah for him I get it as he's not at a point where minutes are that important yet. Just was predictable he wouldn't play much.
Maybe if we were still in the cup...
He’d not make the bench if he wasn’t doing it in training. Lad is physically a far better fit than Shaw or Martinez for the left sided role. Then he should 100% be the one coming off the bench late in games, over someone whose contract is done at the end of the season and won’t be here anymore. Players don’t develop if they’re not given opportunities.
I really do not understand Amorim with his selection at LCB. He entrusted Heaven last season, the lad did pretty well and now, he goes and gives Shaw a run of games?!?
As he is a coach who brought plenty of youngsters through at Sporting, developing some of them into really good players, then gave a few chances last season at his new job, it surprises me. Head scratcher to say the least...I hope he gets his chance soon, would be great if he and Yoro became the long term future at CB.
Played for the u20’s today went down injured after 2 mins but played on . Was substituted at half time .
Heaven was poor in preseason and the few minutes he's had this season. If that's also what he's shown in training, it'd be poor management to throw him in to continue his struggles in front of the eyes of millions and suffer the criticism and loss of confidence that would come from it.
An argument could definitely be had that he'd be better off playing with the U21's rather than sitting on the first team bench though. That might allow him to play himself into form and start pushing for a spot in the first team again.
Maguire contract extension talks might say something about the clubs confidence in him being ready to start regularly in the next year
If we have Europe next year, and with Martinez a complete crock, extending Maguire is no bad option. Shaw will not be able to play two games a week.
Amorim quite likes to play fullbacks as wide CB's.
This allows our wide players to go further up which is then covered by CB's like Mazroui & Shaw to temporarily take up fullback places turning our bad 5 in to a back 4 when on the attack.
Man Utd 4:2 Brighton
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Glad to see this lad get a nice spell in this game, he came on and did well.
More assists than Wirtz in the Prem?
Only sub today to cover himself in glory. Will be huge if he can keep up that kind of performance, especially given how unreliable Shaw/Licha can be in terms of fitness.
Did well when he came on. A couple of strong challenges and got an assist at the end.
He will become a very good defender I think. Has all the tools
Starter for me, maybe even over Yoro.
Really good. Patience, he will come good, has all the tools.
Did well today, and also gave an assist to Mbeumo
Yoro was brilliant. Probably the best defender this season after de Ligt.
Is he electric off the mark? A couple of times today he intercepted the ball and it looked like cheat code - not talking long runs, but very quick first five yards for a CB.
Almost forgot we had him. Nice surprise
Did well, especially coming on after not playing for a long time.
Really, come on... Hes no where near Yoro's level. Heaven will be a quality player but he's no where near good enough to be starting. His aerial presence is just not there at minute.Covered for Dorgu's rashness well today.