Brazil will win it anyway
Ballon d'Or 2021: more interesting than usual?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
they should do with the team they have... that said im pretty sure france were going to win against switzerland so you never know (especially if messi hits top form when they play each other)
The main argument the Ronaldo fans have for Ronaldo lately pretty much dies.
And Messi's Copa performances have been better than Ronaldo's in that Euros thus far.
Did Ballon D'or used to be an award for footballers whose career was in Europe only. There might be changed when it merges with FIFA, but since they were split in 2016 I think the awards wouldn't count Copa as an individual achievement.
I think it will inevitably influence the voting though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_FIFA_Men's_Player
You are clearly very blinkered by being a Chelsea fan. For example if England won the Euros with Kane scoring in every knockout game after he'd topped the Premier League for both goals and assists playing in a team that finished 7th he'd be right up there with the contenders.
That's FIFA Best Men Player of the year not Ballon d'or.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or
Ballon d'or used to be an award for footballers who had an outstanding career in Europe only, but it was merged with FIFA to become more global, and they split again in 2016. My question is Ballon d'or back to the old ways or not? Pele and Maradona never won this award.
I think Messi would win FIFA awards if Argentina won Copa America, but the Ballon d'or would be tough.
The Ballon D'or is a calendar award, as ridiculous as that is.
Including when he quit after missing his penalty?
As if the CDR trophy played any part in the award.
Messi fully deserved it that year due to his goalscoring, not his CDR.
but it still counts as winning a trophy for the season. I agree the calendar year thing is bizarre
One more contender out of the race.
Jorginho one step closer 
Even if Belgium had won the Euros, Lukaku would not have been anywhere near deserving Ballon d’Or. Good striker but not that level at all.
Surely only between Messi and Lewandowski now?
Not the pointAs if the CDR trophy played any part in the award.
Messi fully deserved it that year due to his goalscoring, not his CDR.
The funny thing is that you didn't describe PSG. The only time PSG didn't had lot of money was under Colony Capital. PSG's record is I believe from the 70s by Carlos Bianchi
Edit: I forgot that Ibrahimovic scored 38 which is one more than Bianchi.
Looks like Kane is having a resurgence in this tournament, if England wins it with Kane performing well, surely he is in it too?
if England win he should be In the top 3 for sure
Can’t look past Luke Shaw
Good grief
If England wins the Euro the only choice is Lukeberto Shawrlo
No, because a few England players have been better than him in the Euros if that's the main criteria
He'll be top 10 though(maybe top 5)
Its a combination of Euros and domestic form, surely you understand this.
Kane was the top scorer and assist provider in the PL last season, so he doesnt have to be the outstanding player for England, just be "good", to put him above the other English players that is.
Messi having a pretty damn good Copa
Did he win 26 man of the match awards in 35 games in 2021 with 46 goals + assists?
Yeah im pretty sure its Messi's to lose. Hes having a ridiculous year, he isnt the lighting fast dribbler he was in 2010 but somehow he's just as influential on the pitch.
But not good enough to be considered the best player in his domestic game by either football writers or players, then did nothing in Europe.
Funny that Kane is now 2nd at the bookies for the Ballon D'or. Seems a few games can wildly swing it in your favour. He's not a terrible shout though, but I guess all this speculation is a bit stupid since the first half of the 2021/2022 season counts for something as well.
Not that it will happen as it works be a total joke but if he did he would be the least deserving winner since Michael Owen.
I can see a pattern there
I can see a pattern there
That's insane.
Arent the motm awards taken from whoscored though rather than the official motm award? Not that i doubt they are much different.
Not entirely sure, good question!
Now it's even more of a certainty.
Where do I see motm in that app/website?
Still 26 motm out of 35 games is absolutely insane. So far ahead of the curve
https://www.messivsronaldo.app/detailed-stats/man-of-the-match-awards/
Pretty sure it's taken from whoscored but i'm not sure.
That's because every match is focused on watching Messi.
If you watch Michael Jordan's games last time, he's pretty much Motm for almost every game as well.
he's only winning it if England win the Euros, in which case I don't see why it would be a joke
he had a great season
Messi and Lewandowski deserve to be Top 2