Nah man, Ronaldo is more marketable then Messi and Real Madrid Revenue didn't fell at a ( before Covid )
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Keep lowering then Leo, you'll get there
That’s nice, he only wants 140 million euros over the next two seasons, a true act of altruism from the great man.
When Messi leaves I’ve heard they’ll have the same revenue as Norwich.
When Messi leaves he will still be the best selling shirt and they won’t be paying him for the honour.
According to some of the more ardent Messi fanboys, €10.
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Except Cristiano has five times the amount of followers than Beckham has. Id try to guess your age but i believe even young people can check facts and think logically before speaking their mind, so my guess is something else.
I had a good laugh when I read comments from La Liga-president Javier Tebas.
“[he] believes it would have been financially doping if Manchester City had signed Lionel Messi.
“We need to establish some boundaries. Financial doping destroys football. We must really fight against this and will continue to do so”.
Talk about throwing stones in a glass house
Exactly what Real Madrid and Barcelona have been doing for ages.
“[he] believes it would have been financially doping if Manchester City had signed Lionel Messi.
“We need to establish some boundaries. Financial doping destroys football. We must really fight against this and will continue to do so”.
Talk about throwing stones in a glass house
Exactly what Real Madrid and Barcelona have been doing for ages.To be fair, PsG and City are the reason they gave Messi that contract.
They are horrendous for the game.
They are horrendous for the game.
Nah, Real bankrupted themselves in the early 00's with the first Galactico period. Only way they got out of it was through that land deal with Madrid Council.
Real, at least, have been living beyond their means for decades. Barca are slightly different as they only started playing real Charlie Big Potatoes with Bart Man.
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Maybe that's true... But it´s also true that Barcelona did a very bad escalation with Messi's salary, plus they added awful bonuses (like 'loyalty' for not signing with other clubs).
Also, it's unquestionable that he has been one of the greatest in the history of the game, but after 2014-15 he has delivered very low unexcusable games in Champions League. He has been involved in all the trashings received from: PSG and Juventus in 16/17, Roma in 17/18, Liverpool in 18/19, Bayern 19/20, and PSG 20/21.
Barcelona's biggest problem has been not to keep Messi, but know when to get rid of him... Last year, had Bartomeu agreed to Messi leaving he would have at least received money from a transfer... Now he is free and there's no guarantee he will continue. This only puts things easier fort PSG or City to make a bid. They don't even have to worry about FFP because there's no money for a transfer...
Laporta has not been brilliant with the exits also. He just rescinded the contract of Matheus Fernandes unilaterally and planned to do the same with Pjanic and Umtiti until the brazilian sued the termination... He should have planned the exits first before the arrivals, now he is in jeopardy with the Spanish Federation over the club's salary cap.
Dark years loom ahead ovr Barcelona.
I’m astonished at the money Barca are paying some players…..but what Messi has been milking them for is obscene - he is now 35, way past his best and they want to offload players to pay him another ridiculous salary…..the great Barca have fallen to new depths
The ones fangirling over Beckham 20 years ago would now be in their early 30s to 40s, hardly the demographic who make up social media follower count.
I’m not even interested in this inane debate but I think you’ve consistently failed to factor that into the comparison. We just had a lot less to focus on during those days, posters of fat Ronaldo, Becks etc were pretty much everywhere that were frequented by people, their faces made it to the sport section of the evening news the majority tuned into daily. As late as the beginning of the 10s people in Asia still bought printed press for their sports news in the morning. The interest in Becks with football crowd fell off a lot once he moved to the US but at his peak in the late 90s-early 00s you can’t escape seeing his mug no matter what age group you are, it was a mania, something that can’t be accounted for with social media views/counts.
That brings itself to another point, how much social media is overrated in representation of the populace at large. I don’t remember the exact statistics but something like over half, maybe even 70% of the US population are not on Twitter and for those who do, it skews significantly younger and more liberal, which can paint a very misleading picture. The absolute bore leg of a discussion that is the GOAT debate would probably be massively different in favour of Pele/Maradona if it were to be polled and weighted properly, compared to the result of the often cited online polls.
It's not really worth comapring players across different generations, Best, Maradona and Pele were all extremely popular in their time. Every bit as popular across the footballing world as Messi is today. The only real difference is how much money there is and how the money is being generated.
Beckham is worth about half a billion now, most of which he has generated outside of football. He was one of the main faces of Adidas for nearly his whole career. He wouldn't have that if he wasn't known world wide which was a direct result of his footballing prowess and also partly to do with how good he looks. That CK add was a real beaut.
Messi is worth about half a billion also, most of which he has creamed out of Barcelona, with his insane contracts. He's nowhere near as popular outside of football, is not as good looking, nobody wants to see him in his underpants and has never had a movie with his name in it that wasn't a documentary.
I don't get this Matheus Fernandes thing. Did Barca really try and just terminate his contract without paying it out and without any mutual agreement? Sounds like madness.
Desperate times, desperate measures. Everyone is expendable apart from Messi. The superstar who is helping to sink his beloved club.
Yeah but there's desperate and there's downright illegal. Just read that they claimed poor performance, lack of match minutes (wtf?!) and underperforming in 6 of 9 key training areas. Yet no-one bothered to mention any of this to him until he got an email telling him his contract was cancelled. There seems to be feck all chance of that standing up in court.
The entire football transfer and contract system would fall apart if you introduced the idea that clubs can fire players because they think they aren't good enough and avoid paying them that way.
Barca have just signed Yussi Demir on loan from my local club Rapid Vienna. They really are skint as Rapid would've probably asked for 7-10 million at most. He has signed a contract extension until 2023 and has been loaned to Barca, his dream club, until June 2022. Weird times.
the other side of the coin would also be that any player could walk away from any club fee free, irrespective of the club wanted to keep them or not.
Well.. This reminds me of a saying. Something about eggs and one basket.
All this will be even more hilarious when Barcelona bomb out of the CL in the first knock out round next season.
Countinho, Griezmann, Dembele are a couple of rotten eggs in their basket.
How? By Barca buying them for large amounts and then giving them ridiculous contracts? That's their fault?
It's hard to argue that we aren't heading for an era of PSG/City/Chelsea dominance. The financial power they possess versus the rest of the field is frankly obscene.
They could each spend 250m net each season for the next 10 years if they were inclined to do so.
Countinho, Dembele and Griezmann cost like €360m, of which, they got €222m from selling Neymar.
Those busted transfers don’t explain the €1bn
plus of debt especially in what has been a commercially successful period with regular silverware until last season and regular CL football plus the €300m per year that Messi brings.
Those busted transfers don’t explain the €1bn
plus of debt especially in what has been a commercially successful period with regular silverware until last season and regular CL football plus the €300m per year that Messi brings.
Jesus, you all will blame anyone but Barcelona for being utterly irresponsible. I'm waiting for how UEFA and Boris Johnson gets dragged into this.
Happens in the NFL. Non-guaranteed contracts.
This needs to die.
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You can almost guarentee they will try to do as many illegal things that they believe they can get away with to keep Messi happy. They might as well bend over backwards and take it up the ass. Bunch of pussies
This is nonsense, Utd have outspent Chelsea by a handsome amount over the past 5 and 10 year period. Utd are also on a par with City for net spend
Even with our splurge last season our 5 year net spend is unexceptional (behind City, Utd, Everton, Arsenal, Brighton and Villa)
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Highest Net Spend last 5 years across Europe (in Euros):
1) City - 631m
2) Utd - 586m
3) Barc - 471m
4) PSG - 455m
5) Inter - 386m
6) Everton - 346m
7) Villa - 339m
8) Milan - 311m
9) Chelsea - 308m
10) Arsenal - 299m
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I don't know Spanish laws, but where I am from under certain conditions - such a the risk of bankruptcy - businesses are allowed to circumvent employee protection laws. At least to a certain extent.
It’s weird for Rapid, as he extended his contract until 2023, just to be loaned out to a giant like Barca. Unfortunately, Yussi only wanted to go to Barcelona, so hopefully he shines in the second team and Barca pay the 10 million next year. For a club of Rapid’s size, it is a pity that the biggest talent since I’ve started watching them in the 90s now leaves (for now) for basically nothing. Well, still all the best to him.
It's very difficult to bend over backwards AND take it up the ass simultaneously...
I hear...
Koeman's interview is actually bonkers.
- "Messi is the future of Barcelona and we have to keep him at all cost." He is 34... In Caf age that's like 57.
- "Other players have to lower their wages so we can afford a new contract for Messi". If he was my employer, I'd tell him to piss off, as most Barca players have done apparently.
- "Messi is the future of Barcelona and we have to keep him at all cost." He is 34... In Caf age that's like 57.
- "Other players have to lower their wages so we can afford a new contract for Messi". If he was my employer, I'd tell him to piss off, as most Barca players have done apparently.
If you are going to post statistics, you should post the source of your information. For all we know you have just made all of that up or misinterpreted the source.
The high wages in Spain are due to the massive taxations on high earners.... no?