Seemingly we asked about him when Barca were interested in Rashford but were told he wasn’t for sale.
Based on Santos and Tielemans, predict Utds third midfield signing
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I think we did approach him but got rebuffed as he wants to make it at Barca. I think if he decides to move away, I'd be very surprised we didn't get involved.
To seek common ground, to me this would be a fantastic set of midfielder options that has all your bases covered! Sure lot of potential, but still a lot of quality now.
Agreed - we have been crying out for a bench with realistic options the coach has confidence in so we can make in game changes to add energy and adjust tactics - to be a top 4 side never mind title contenders with the ability to sustain a run over a full season when in Europe and the domestic cups we need 2 for every position and with the qualitY between the options being mush closer
I like so many on here think the hold up is Madrid and once that position clarifies we will see movement - I am pretty confident we will see another new arrival in midfield and across the season I hope to see players like the Fletchers Lacey maybe Orozco Thompson and perhaps others Getting onto the bench and getting minutes but that Ought not to stop the club adding another 21-26 more established CM
Ideally not enough but is less pressing than LB if we only have budget for 1 more incoming.
Is it? Last season we played our lowest amount of games, and everyone was crying out that we needed to buy midfielders as a matter of urgency. So far we've lost Ugarte and Casemiro, and signed two, so we're no better off in midfield
Patience, young padawan. Still a month left in the transfer window. Plus even if it really is "Everton budget" it's because the club's situation dictates it. Not the worst thing to have long term thinking from both a financial and a footballing perspective.
We need one quick and physical CM/CDM (ideally Baleba, 24-25 version) and one LB (ideally Hall).
60M for each player would bring us with ~180M net spend this summer.
I don't disagree we need 1 more midfielder but not as pressing as a LB. The issue last season after Carrick took over was mostly quality not numbers. During Amorim's time, it did'n't help when Bruno played in a deeper role, Casemiro asked to cover when he clearly didn't have the legs and stamina to, and Kobbie was frozen out so it was a bit of self sabotage than anything.
The situation improved after Carrick took over, Kobbie was brought back, Bruno put in his most effective position. The issue was when we sub off Casemiro with Ugarte/Fletcher, the drop in quality was huge. Early days but I feel with Santos, Tielemans, Bruno, Mount, Kobbie and 2-3 youth players, our overall quality has improved to the point that I feel comfortable to starting the season without a third midfielder signing if that means we get a LB in.
If our club wants long term thinking from a financial perspective then they should start by paying off the debt they saddled us with with their own money
I love Mount but how can we be confident he won't get injured again? Previous 3 seasons (+ his last season at Chelsea) hardly make you optimistic.
I dont know much how the new signings will operate , but this looks like the summer when we got Zirkzee and Amarbat.
How so? How can you compare Santos and Tilsmanns (a proven PL great CM) to Zirkzee and Amrabat? Santos has looked fantastic. Lacey will also be coming into the squad like a new signing.
We can’t. But with e.g. Tielemans, Mainoo, Santos, Mount and, say, someone like Ederson, we’d have a good shot at fielding two good midfielders for every game this season.
If we play 55 games, that's about 10,000 midfield minutes to be split between the two midfield positions.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not worried about United's lack of urgency in signing another midfielder. We'd likely be spread a little thin at times, but there are enough options to see us through till May.
- Tielemans played 2,500 last season, so it's reasonable to expect him to pull his weight
- Mainoo has never had a full season as first choice, but he's young enough that he should be available for 2,800+ (especially with no World Cup matches played in the summer)
- Santos played 2,800+ when he was last first choice at Strasbourg and should be able to do the same at United (also with no World Cup matches played in the summer)
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not worried about United's lack of urgency in signing another midfielder. We'd likely be spread a little thin at times, but there are enough options to see us through till May.
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Don’t we want to be successful though? Competing for the league and the cups? To do that the aim always has to be to invest so we can put the best possible XI out at all times. Sure, we can hope to get through a season relying on unproven players like Fletcher or Thwaites, or playing FBs out of position (which doesn’t make any sense when we’re also short on FB cover). It just seems incredibly unambitious for a club which claims to have big ambitions.
I'd rather they were sensible, we need to buy the right players, not just sign players for the sake of it or because they're the siny, expensive signing that a lot of fans seem to want, they've bought 2 that they feel are right and none of us knew anything about them beforehand, that's the way to do business, there's still several weeks of the transfer window to go, and I fully expect that there will be further signings before it closes
You seem surprised they are unambitious, just look at how they ran other clubs to see why we should have been more cautious about them. I just cannot get my head around not prioritising that athletic ground covering DM for third CM.
No, I’m saying what should happen if we were run properly, not what I thought would happen. It’s still on INEOS to prove if their actions match their words when it comes to ambition.
Not buying anyone. The board has no ambition. We're fooked
I might be deluded, but I still think we're holding out for a premium DM to become available. I'm sure we have a list of cheaper options should they be required but having got 2 in already we can afford to wait and see what happens.
Yeah, the balance seems about right if Baleba can recapture some form, and if he did you’d hope with the age profiles of three of them that they could develop together into some very strong partnerships in the coming years.
Well they aren't helping change that narrative
I thought the third midfielder would very likely be Kone...but that's gone very quiet now.
You'd imagine they would have pulled the trigger on him by now if he was the top target.
Tchouameni seems a pipe dream, Baleba too expensive and i think utd would be reluctant to sign another older guy like Berge...so I dunno...Tyler Adams maybe.
You'd imagine they would have pulled the trigger on him by now if he was the top target.
Tchouameni seems a pipe dream, Baleba too expensive and i think utd would be reluctant to sign another older guy like Berge...so I dunno...Tyler Adams maybe.
Maybe going quiet will be a good thing, I still am firmly in the Camavinga camp but very much in minority
I wish we were going for a huge talent like Bouaddi. Just 18, and a physical + technical profile that is just so rare.
I'm really curious as to who we are targeting. Is it Camavinga/Tchouameni? I really hope its not Baleba, because its telling that no top club are in for him, despite all of them looking at midfielders.
If its the likes of Kone, Berge or Adams, it would be underwhelming, but hey, better than Mason fecking Mount.
I'm really curious as to who we are targeting. Is it Camavinga/Tchouameni? I really hope its not Baleba, because its telling that no top club are in for him, despite all of them looking at midfielders.
If its the likes of Kone, Berge or Adams, it would be underwhelming, but hey, better than Mason fecking Mount.
I won't be surprised if we end up with Lewis-Skelly ie a player Arsenal would probably want to sell and who can cover both LB and CM.
Now that we’ve already signed Kone on 17 August, how will the rest of the window have been going to have turned out by then?
I worry that Mount will be seen and used as the additional central midfielder now alongside Santos.
Its why Rashford staying after his clause expired was so blatantly obvious. It feels like the execs have said we need cover up front and have no cash so heres Rashford who can play on the left and up front. Sorted.
I cant only see us spending big on Hall if that deal is possible but reckon Newcastle will value him at much higher than 60 million.
Its why Rashford staying after his clause expired was so blatantly obvious. It feels like the execs have said we need cover up front and have no cash so heres Rashford who can play on the left and up front. Sorted.
I cant only see us spending big on Hall if that deal is possible but reckon Newcastle will value him at much higher than 60 million.
You make it sounds bad
but i’d be extremely happy if he’s our next signing. I think he’ll be great player.It was neither a negative nor a positive post.You make it sounds bad
I suppose Mount is like a new signing…
Would be very happy with that!
He’s not very good at either.
At this point I have a greater chance of being the 3rd midfielder than anyone else. Not sure if we even in the market still
I'd be very happy with Lewis-Skelly - be interesting to see if a deal can be done there.
I think our order of preference is
Tchouameni
Lewis-Skelly
Baleba
Sander Berge
I do think we'll sign someone - just waiting for the dominoes to fall.
I think our order of preference is
Tchouameni
Lewis-Skelly
Baleba
Sander Berge
I do think we'll sign someone - just waiting for the dominoes to fall.
I didn’t realise he’s only 19 too. We’d have a pretty young midfield. There’s no reason if he’s good enough that MLS couldn’t get into that Arsenal midfield too, so if they’re open to selling him we’ve gotta wonder why.
Arsenal fans seem to love him - I think you lot have been directly referenced here
https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/myles-lewis-skelly-spooky-scary-skelly.36742/page-136
He started a CL final for them, they clearly rate him. That said overcoming Rice, Zubimendi and now Bruno is a tall task for any young player.I didn’t realise he’s only 19 too. We’d have a pretty young midfield. There’s no reason if he’s good enough that MLS couldn’t get into that Arsenal midfield too, so if they’re open to selling him we’ve gotta wonder why.
Arsenal fans seem to love him - I think you lot have been directly referenced here
https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/myles-lewis-skelly-spooky-scary-skelly.36742/page-136
Would put Camavinga joint top, however just don't think that there's any interest in him from the club
Not sure. Rice is a starter of course but there’s no reason MLS couldn’t start alongside him against certain opponents. Rate him more than Zubimendi who has a fart in him at all times. Bruno G is obviously class - and will be the main starter alongside Rice - but things can quickly change
Can’t see MLS going anywhere unless he requests it, and even then there’s no guarantee he’d start for a lot of other big clubs
Oh yeah I'd personally love that, but not sure the club would be in for him - I also don't think Madrid would sell him as he feels like a player Mourinho would love due to his flexibility.
And Lacey as well, as the back up to Bruno with Mount as the new CM. Would love to see Lacey getting loads of time and experience, and a healthy Mount of course.