You don't think Mendes would do business with us unless we bought a player from him that we didn't really want?
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Football agents. 
If this is true, this is quite staggering really... Sir Alex defended Keegan over his sacking from Newcastle. One of the things why Keegan walked from Newcastle was because Mike Ashley (and possibly Dennis Wise) bought Ignacio González to the club in return for "favours" from South American agents.
In this video, Sir Alex specifically mentions "managers not being in control of their team any more" (around the minute mark).
Here's hoping Bébé isn't just a more expensive version of Ignacio González and was just... a mistake.
If this is true, this is quite staggering really... Sir Alex defended Keegan over his sacking from Newcastle. One of the things why Keegan walked from Newcastle was because Mike Ashley (and possibly Dennis Wise) bought Ignacio González to the club in return for "favours" from South American agents.
In this video, Sir Alex specifically mentions "managers not being in control of their team any more" (around the minute mark).
Here's hoping Bébé isn't just a more expensive version of Ignacio González and was just... a mistake.
Really hope he kicks on in Turkey. Could be a fantastic move for him to be playing regularly.
Esp with younger players (even if they are hyped up and in the senior team of a big country), agents will have their ear and will be a major influence in where they sign. United really target these young stars and have been increasingly looking to latin markets compard to 15 years ago. Mendes is the top dog in this area and hence we want to make sure he'd advise his clients to come to us should we show interest but also say competitors like yer barca/madrid/milans show interest.
I'm not saying this is right (the bebe shit), but all the facts point to 'funneling' money to mendes as being a very plausible explanation, to increase our 'ties' with him and influence him to funnel talent our way inthe future.
The fact that various accounts have shown bebe's transfer to be paid up front and in full (when is the last time that happened..yes i know ronnie was done the same way when we sold him but that's well ronnie). That's a red flag. The fact he was a 'no body' prior, another red flag. The fact fergie never saw him play and its the first player he's signed like this..another red flag.
Too much dirt here. Even though united are one of the more 'cleaner' clubs i reckon, its still football...and the whole business of football is bent, hence we're bound to have some shady deals such as this.
He had part ownership of the player so roughly 2 mil went to him
Of course he would. Why would he toss away the chance to make millions just because United decline to take on one of his players that we don't rate? If an agent won't do business with United, do you think any of his players who aspire to play for us will remain on his books?
How many top/up and coming European players actually want to play for United the same way Cesc wants to play for Barca? Very few I'd imagine.
So we did not axctivate our right to buy ljajic and opted for Bebe for similar money when everyone and his dog could see who was the better player.
If ther eis smoke theire's fire and this Bebe deal reaks.
If ther eis smoke theire's fire and this Bebe deal reaks.
I would like to be proved wrong, but I don't think we'll see Bebe in a United shirt again.
Why wouldnt the club pay Mendes some other way.
What did he get from the deal? 30% of 7.4m, ie, 2.2m and some agent fee.. total around 3m?
Surely there has to be a more efficient way of paying someone 3m than spending 7.4+agent fee+ signing on fee+ wages (~10k/week= 500k) which would give some random Portuguese club 5.2m and cost the club a total of around 9m
I find it hard to believe these conspiracy theories. I think people find it hard to believe we can feck up so badly. It looks like we might have.
He might still come good.. Who knows what a season of regular football will do for him
maybe we have a buy back clause of 10m and we can pay some more money to Mendes buying the player back from Besiktas
What did he get from the deal? 30% of 7.4m, ie, 2.2m and some agent fee.. total around 3m?
Surely there has to be a more efficient way of paying someone 3m than spending 7.4+agent fee+ signing on fee+ wages (~10k/week= 500k) which would give some random Portuguese club 5.2m and cost the club a total of around 9m
I find it hard to believe these conspiracy theories. I think people find it hard to believe we can feck up so badly. It looks like we might have.
He might still come good.. Who knows what a season of regular football will do for him
maybe we have a buy back clause of 10m and we can pay some more money to Mendes buying the player back from Besiktas
More like we did the Bebe business to have an upper hand in future signing of his clients.
I have no idea and neither do you, but Mendes wouldn't have developed a relationship with the club if he couldn't supply top talent to us. The Bebe deal remains a mystery and I hope it's a one off.
I don't buy any of these conspiracy theories.
The primary recommendation to sign the player came from Toninho Cruz, a scout that Ferguson rates very highly.
The primary recommendation to sign the player came from Toninho Cruz, a scout that Ferguson rates very highly.
Whenever a release clause is used. Jones will be the same (when we eventually get him).
Yep. Fergie then asked Queiroz for a second opinion, if I remember correctly.
Both gave him glowing reports, so he took a punt.
Hopefully, he sneaks off quietly to Turkey & we can all forget the whole sorry joke.
Better than David May at the celebrations though. Never off the front of the bus & the front row at the trophy presentation.
Better than David May at the celebrations though. Never off the front of the bus & the front row at the trophy presentation.
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So we give Mendes a boat load of cash and get a player who just might be a diamond in the rough.
Best case scenario we give Mendes a bunch of money and get a good player before anyone else finds out about him. There's a precedent for players developing late and let's be honest - we'd all have loved to sign the next Drogba for only 7m. In the scheme of things it wasn't a huge transfer fee paid to Bebe's club and we stand to recoup a bit of it. The rest of the money would've found its way to Mendes one way or another.
% weeks before we signed him we could have got him for free now we have spent £7.5m.
£7.5m is a top players salary for a year. It's a lot of money. Either Mendes did us over or we just didn't do our due dilligence.
£7.5m is a top players salary for a year. It's a lot of money. Either Mendes did us over or we just didn't do our due dilligence.
He might not rate him anymore.
Good riddance
Well that was money well spent
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