[bosnian_red]

Not his best day but still had his uses and it was a nightmare situation for any CF tbh. Had some good bits of play and is still a handful for the opposition. Still held it up well, still battled well, got a few shots off. All our front 3 were off it relative to last week (as Forest were ridiculously aggressive). Should've controlled that ball from Mbeumo better, but it was a missed kick a split second before it came to his foot so those are always a bit tough to control. He'd expect himself to do better there too anyway.

The knee jerkers on the caf love snap reactions though. Comparing to Hojlund is laughable, as Sesko is brilliant at the stuff that Hojlund was non existant with. When it comes to what I want from a focal point striker, he still showed those qualities. Sometimes it clicks with the rest, other times it doesn't. It's fine.

 

[SATA]

He’s a good player but he looks really meek to me so far. Wish he has Rooney’s tenacity

 

[amolbhatia50k]

He’s sloppy. Feels like we signed a teen to start.

 

[KingEric04]

If we’re being honest, that was diabolical. If Chido had put in a performance like that, we’d be saying he was light years away from being ready for the first team.

He was shocking today. Easily the worst player on the pitch besides Dalot.

 

[Phil]

Yikes he was bad today. Started ok with a bit of decent hold up play, but the decline was rapid. He was giving the ball away, unable to control the ball, unable to get a shot off. It was ugly. His level has topped out at ok so far this season, which is a bit worrying.

He deserves criticism today, doesn't make anyone less of a fan, grow up.

 

[Flying_Heckfish]

Newcastle can't believe their luck

 

[VivaJesperBlomqvist]

Please no

Do you think our strikers are better than Welbeck?

 

[L1nk]

He's not Championship level, he's just not much better than what we already had in Hojlund who we criticised for years. If you think he's been good in multiple games, then the bar for Manchester United striker is on the floor. Don't forget, we also paid £65m on him when we probably needed that money elsewhere.

So we won those last three matches inspite of Sesko then who was holding us back the entire time?

"Not much better than Hojlund" despite the fact he looks ten times better than Hojlund at everything he was weak at

 

[Lay]

So we just pretend he's been playing well cos we support United?

No I don't agree with blindly supporting something. But there's a difference in criticising other teams players and our own. Sesko should feel supported as he adjusts. Not criticised in the same manner that we criticise Isak etc.

 

[KingEric04]

Not his best day but still had his uses and it was a nightmare situation for any CF tbh. Had some good bits of play and is still a handful for the opposition. Still held it up well, still battled well, got a few shots off. All our front 3 were off it relative to last week (as Forest were ridiculously aggressive). Should've controlled that ball from Mbeumo better, but it was a missed kick a split second before it came to his foot so those are always a bit tough to control. He'd expect himself to do better there too anyway.

The knee jerkers on the caf love snap reactions though. Comparing to Hojlund is laughable, as Sesko is brilliant at the stuff that Hojlund was non existant with. When it comes to what I want from a focal point striker, he still showed those qualities. Sometimes it clicks with the rest, other times it doesn't. It's fine.

Disagree. Šeško was dreadful today while Mbeumo was one of our better players on the pitch. Cunha was sloppy but didn't look as bad as Šeško.

 

[JBG]

Incoming "hes shit" "sell him" "not good enough" shouts from the usual lot after 1 bad game where nobody played well

Yup, you called it.

Our attack in general was so bad this match.

 

[Chip]

Newcastle can't believe their luck

Yeah, would swap him with Woltemade in a heartbeat.

 

[ValenciasDrilledCrosses]

Was shite today but the comments in this thread are just classic Caf rewriting of a player's qualities after a poor game. Just utter headloss.

 

[Kush]

His worst performance in a red shirt but people need to wind their neck in, suggestions of signing Welbeck ffs

PL is tough for strikers, and he is still extremely young and adjusting. Doesn't help our defenders and midfielders treat football like a grenade, moment opposition applies slightest bit of pressure through press.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

Not his best day but still had his uses and it was a nightmare situation for any CF tbh. Had some good bits of play and is still a handful for the opposition. Still held it up well, still battled well, got a few shots off. All our front 3 were off it relative to last week (as Forest were ridiculously aggressive). Should've controlled that ball from Mbeumo better, but it was a missed kick a split second before it came to his foot so those are always a bit tough to control. He'd expect himself to do better there too anyway.

The knee jerkers on the caf love snap reactions though. Comparing to Hojlund is laughable, as Sesko is brilliant at the stuff that Hojlund was non existant with. When it comes to what I want from a focal point striker, he still showed those qualities. Sometimes it clicks with the rest, other times it doesn't. It's fine.

Like Hojlund, as a young (though not AS young) player he should be given some slack and time. I agree there was mitigating circumstances today. But laughable is what I’d call the double standards you show here. If it had been Hojlund playing like that he would’ve been crucified.

 

[Sylar]

Deffo should have come off. Thought he did ok in the first half though especially for some of the long balls he helped keep.

We knew he would have games where he would suffer, it's one of those games where a replacement would have helped

 

[Devil81]

Early days, needs to sharpen up on those has half chances. He takes an age to get a shot away and is too predictable.

Feel we should be making more of his physical height on crosses.

 

[Trex]

We're playing against a team who are compact and you wouldn't play through, we have a 6'5 striker why don't we just cross it continuously. He may not score but the ball may just drop somewhere favourably. That would have been the best thing to do today but we're just passing it around without intent. It's what they actually did and it worked.

 

[Bobski]

Agreed - we keep making the same mistakes. For me, when a forward’s general play is strong, the team naturally creates and scores more goals. But if the forward’s link-up and movement aren’t good enough, attacks tend to break down, making it impossible to sustain pressure or pin teams back.

Welbeck was never the most prolific striker, but we scored our highest number of Premier League goals with him leading the line because his all-round play was exceptional.

And even if strikers don’t offer much in overall play, you’d at least expect them to be lethal in front of goal - like Haaland. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

I agree with this completely. People care far too much individual goal totals when overall team totals are vastly more important.

As mentioned Andy Cole was a better footballer in say 99/00 scoring 20 goals than he was in the year at Newcastle he scored 40, just a much better all round player who also allowed others to excel. Hojlund ended his first season scoring a decent total but if watched him closely it was very hard to have any belief he was a long term solution, there were far too many blatant flaws.

Sesko needs to improve but Amorin is using him as a targetman, plenty of long balls to work with, but this is almost the football meta now.

 

[bosnian_red]

Like Hojlund, as a young (though not AS young) player he should be given some slack and time. I agree there was mitigating circumstances today. But laughable is what I’d call the double standards you show here. If it had been Hojlund playing like that he would’ve been crucified.

Not at all. What I want from a CF is that they battle with CB's, do well with long balls, hold up the play, and link up. Sesko in a really tough battle did ok when it comes to that. I also want my CF's to take shots. Sesko had 3 today, nothing special but not bad. Showed a quick touch and shot in the first half that I like, off target. You have to go with the knowledge that no, he's not the finished package. That was always the case. He's a top talent, and you look for traits. He is already very good at battling with CB's, he's elite at aerial duels (stats back that up - and that is a big thing in both boxes though he showed it more in our own box today), and I really like his hold up play already. His movement needs to improve to get on the end of more chances, but there's been nothing concerning so far IMO. Link up, understanding with team mates will come more consistently in time. Last week it clicked a lot better than this week, is what it is.

I hated watching Hojlund because he crumbled under any pressure, he was absolutely useless at holding off defenders, got out muscled by everyone, was useless in the air and we had absolutely no reference point. He also took the least shots per 90 in the league, basically just 1 per game.

So no, Hojlund isn't even capable of playing like Sesko today in what was a meh at best performance anyway.

 

[KranjskaKlobasa]

The only thing that baffles me today is how Amorim let him on the pitch after half-time.

 

[SirScholes]

Not his best day but still had his uses and it was a nightmare situation for any CF tbh. Had some good bits of play and is still a handful for the opposition. Still held it up well, still battled well, got a few shots off. All our front 3 were off it relative to last week (as Forest were ridiculously aggressive). Should've controlled that ball from Mbeumo better, but it was a missed kick a split second before it came to his foot so those are always a bit tough to control. He'd expect himself to do better there too anyway.

The knee jerkers on the caf love snap reactions though. Comparing to Hojlund is laughable, as Sesko is brilliant at the stuff that Hojlund was non existant with. When it comes to what I want from a focal point striker, he still showed those qualities. Sometimes it clicks with the rest, other times it doesn't. It's fine.

He’s better than Hojund but that shouldn’t be a marker for anything
No not sure how much better he is than zirkzee other than being a little bit quicker ?
Doesn’t use his height and weight enough

Which he’d show some kind of emotion, a smile anything

 

[bosnian_red]

He’s better than Hojund but that shouldn’t be a marker for anything
No not sure how much better he is than zirkzee other than being a little bit quicker ?
Doesn’t use his height and weight enough

Which he’d show some kind of emotion, a smile anything

He's been really good in the air, his use of his body is fine. 86th percentile of aerial duels won already in his first few months of the biggest and most physical league in the world. What does he bring over Zirkzee.. better natural CF movement, a big aerial threat, a big target to go long to which we do a heck of a lot, a big plus in defensive corners (did that today), much better at battling with CB's to hold up the ball (though Zirkzee has shown that ability, he is way more inconsistent with it). Zirkzee has his qualities, I quite like him actually, but it seems like he's on his way out and Amorim isn't bothering playing him.

 

[L1nk]

Yet, literally you on the Florian Wirtz thread 2 weeks ago:

Oh no I called a Liverpool player awful (because he was on the day, just as Sesko was today) who literally has done less than Sesko this season. What a gotcha

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Is Toney available in January because Sesko will need a lot of time? Sesko is good in the air but that's it.

 

[TempusFugit]

Needs to look around when on the ball. There was a great chance for Mbeumo to run in behind but he was so focused on Dorgu that he missed it. His technique is inconsistent as well, he goes from rolling the ball around in midfield to having it bounce off him in excellent positions. He needs to find a way to put it all together, he looked very nervous today, he needs to play with authority like our main striker.

 

[SirScholes]

He's been really good in the air, his use of his body is fine. 86th percentile of aerial duels won already in his first few months of the biggest and most physical league in the world. What does he bring over Zirkzee.. better natural CF movement, a big aerial threat, a big target to go long to which we do a heck of a lot, a big plus in defensive corners (did that today), much better at battling with CB's to hold up the ball (though Zirkzee has shown that ability, he is way more inconsistent with it). Zirkzee has his qualities, I quite like him actually, but it seems like he's on his way out and Amorim isn't bothering playing him.

not seeing the benefit of this if I’m being honest, is it two goals ? Not exactly a threat

 

[PSV]

No I don't agree with blindly supporting something. But there's a difference in criticising other teams players and our own. Sesko should feel supported as he adjusts. Not criticised in the same manner that we criticise Isak etc.

Nah, this here is way too soft. Every player should face hard scrutinization until they've earned their right if we want to go anywhere.

 

[bosnian_red]

not seeing the benefit of this if I’m being honest, is it two goals ? Not exactly a threat

You haven't seen the benefit of him being a target man so far? Have you watched our games? We go long almost every time we get it the past 5 or so games.

 

[SirScholes]

You haven't seen the benefit of him being a target man so far? Have you watched our games? We go long almost every time we get it the past 5 or so games.

Threat. I do not see him as a threat

 

[bosnian_red]

Is Toney available in January because Sesko will need a lot of time? Sesko is good in the air but that's it.

The feck do you want an expensive penalty merchant for?

 

[Poborsky's hair]

He’s a good player but he looks really meek to me so far. Wish he has Rooney’s tenacity

He only seems arsed for one sprint and never recovers and go for the second press. That is a) lazyness but also b) not enough dynamism. If he was a a world class strieker who cna make things happen then okay, but his touch is sub-par and finishing nowehere near PL level.

No doubt he will improve, but hopefully to the extent when his price is at least half-justified. Feels like we were skinned.

About time Cunha got a run up and Mount replaced Sesko until he improves.

 

[bosnian_red]

Threat. I do not see him as a threat

Yes he needs to become more of a goal threat and he will over time. The criticism I had of him at Leipzig was he didn't get in enough goal chances though he still got decent numbers. 69th percentile for shots, 36th percentile for xg/90, yeah you want that stuff to improve. And it will. It's been 500 minutes in the prem. He's 22. How old were strikers of his ilk when they stepped up and truly started scoring loads of goals? Guys like Lewandowski, Dzeko, Drogba, Ibrahimovic? It's a lot closer to their mid-20's. But like them, he's showing the overall game at a young age and for that last bit, it's both on us and him. We need to start playing for our CF more, as we basically abandoned that before this season. We need to put more crosses in from good positions and use that aerial threat that he has.

Anybody who expected him to be a world class CF from day 1 was setting themselves up for rage to be honest. Obviously not that yet.

 

[1988]

Dyche had set his team up well to defend against ud. They were two on him whenever we sent a long ball his way. In addition they also shut down Amad and Mbeumo down really well.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

We're playing against a team who are compact and you wouldn't play through, we have a 6'5 striker why don't we just cross it continuously. He may not score but the ball may just drop somewhere favourably. That would have been the best thing to do today but we're just passing it around without intent. It's what they actually did and it worked.

Sure. Let's go full Moyes against Fulham type of tactic. Well done Manchester United. We dont commit enough players in the box, our crossing is not all that good and Sesko is maybe tall but I have seen better players in the air wwho would be threat on any cross. He seems just about there, but never really threatining. Winning second balls, we can as well play Mount there.

 

[SirScholes]

Yes he needs to become more of a goal threat and he will over time. The criticism I had of him at Leipzig was he didn't get in enough goal chances though he still got decent numbers. 69th percentile for shots, 36th percentile for xg/90, yeah you want that stuff to improve. And it will. It's been 500 minutes in the prem. He's 22. How old were strikers of his ilk when they stepped up and truly started scoring loads of goals? Guys like Lewandowski, Dzeko, Drogba, Ibrahimovic? It's a lot closer to their mid-20's. But like them, he's showing the overall game at a young age and for that last bit, it's both on us and him. We need to start playing for our CF more, as we basically abandoned that before this season. We need to put more crosses in from good positions and use that aerial threat that he has.

Anybody who expected him to be a world class CF from day 1 was setting themselves up for rage to be honest. Obviously not that yet.

Doesn’t have to be world class but needs to be better than average
Which is all seeing at the minute, two big characters beside him which might be why he seems timid.

Just read your post on Anderson and Bruno, was spot on

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

See what I mean, as if Sesko's general play didn't help us whatsoever in the last three games we won and everyone was smiling happy. All of a sudden he's complete dogshit who hinders the team and stops us from creating chances and breaks all our attacks up . This place just cannot be taken seriously at all

No, I don’t see what you mean. Where exactly am I wrong? Sesko’s link-up play and movement are decent, and yes, he’s contributed to some goals, but against a team sitting in a low block today, when you’d expect him to hold the ball up and get attacks flowing, that quality just wasn’t there. If you’re genuinely satisfied with his performance, and I don’t want to overstate it since he’s still settling in, then it feels like the standards have dropped. If Hojlund had put in that same display for United today, I’m certain the reaction from you would’ve been very different.

 

[Ali Dia]

Yeah, would swap him with Woltemade in a heartbeat.

At this moment in time most short sighted fans would. We were buying potential which he clearly has bags of. Look at the current state of Isak? These things are temporary. I'm confident in the long run with a bit of patience we will have made the better signing

 

[Trex]

Sure. Let's go full Moyes against Fulham type of tactic. Well done Manchester United. We dont commit enough players in the box, our crossing is not all that good and Sesko is maybe tall but I have seen better players in the air wwho would be threat on any cross. He seems just about there, but never really threatining. Winning second balls, we can as well play Mount there.

It's not Moyes against Fulham tactics, it's simply tactics. Even Ronaldo's version of Madrid did it. Our second goal was from a set play but it's the sort of thing that happens when you put the ball in the box. That's better than looking toothless.

 

[The holy trinity 68]

Was always against this signing. He is just not very good.