[Swedish_Plumber]

Jury’s out on him says Gary Neville. The Jury of the fecking world.

 

[MrBest]

Some people on here are so impatient. One week we have the guy, the next week, "kneejerk" signing. Why not give the lad a chance. Not everyone can be haaland, some players take time to adjust to a new league let alone a new club. For me Sesko has shown glimpses of what he can do. He didnt have a pre season with us and was injured since April. But he has shown good link up play, strength and has bagged a couple of goals. He's playing in a front three that is new and in a team that is trying to learn a new system. He deserves a full season before we rashly judge him and two seasons before we "write him off".

 

[cpresc]

He's 22.

oh sell him then!

 

[r0663664]

I don't think United will ditch him in the next 2 years. Sesko is only 22, I think he will be banging in goals when he is 25, mentally and physically read for this league. I like him better to Hoijund who is extremely raw (very poor first touch). We need someone like Cavani who we can sub on for 20 mins and start occasionally. Getting a experience striker between 30-33 yo would be ideal to aid his development.

 

[George The Best]

He wasn’t helped yesterday by most of the team being below par and very flat. To be fair to him his touch and aerial ability are miles above Hojlund. He can hold the ball well at times and bring in other players with neat passes. I’ve yet to see the real goal scoring instinct of a No 9 yet though, which is my main concern. I don’t think he plays against Spurs next week as I think we will need a more fluid and mobile front line for that game. I’ve not written him off though, he’s still developing and he has far better attributes than the previous incumbent.

 

[Fortitude]

I feel as those expecting or demanding consistency and say; 6, 6, 7, 6, 8 performance scores should look at the player through the lens of what he is and what it was said he'd be for a good while, which is a player likely to have scores like: 6, 7, 3, 4, 6, 3, 7 i.e. all over the place. If you look at him with that in mind, I think a lot of stress dissipates and a better perspective is framed.

There was no inkling he was about to turn into a rock solid performer who you could expect uniformity from, and it's those expecting it from him at this juncture who are being wholly unrealistic.

What would be nice is him improving his anticipation and preparedness, but even that is not linear and is likely to be one step forward and two steps back until he has a foundation underneath him.

Sesko was my least desired of the available options over the summer because he needs that work and also because his game was not an organic fit with whatever it is we try to do with our striker. Once he was signed, however, looking at his tenure as an 18-month gestation before he really starts to look the part, and he can be accepted and processed for the ongoing project he is.

 

[flameinthesun]

Does seem to provide a bit more of a presence than Rasmus did...a bit more...but also doesn't seem to have Rasmus's running power down chanels etc. So far not really much difference between the two.

 

[croadyman]

As I said he wasn’t playing as the main striker last season, he was a little deeper. His all round game is good, we need to play it to him more often

Why are we so reluctant to play to him more?

 

[Rossa]

Does seem to provide a bit more of a presence than Rasmus did...a bit more...but also doesn't seem to have Rasmus's running power down chanels etc. So far not really much difference between the two.

Agree on the running power. He’s not running the channels much nor in behind, and although fast he hasn’t shown it at all for us.

 

[croadyman]

I don't think United will ditch him in the next 2 years. Sesko is only 22, I think he will be banging in goals when he is 25, mentally and physically read for this league. I like him better to Hoijund who is extremely raw (very poor first touch). We need someone like Cavani who we can sub on for 20 mins and start occasionally. Getting a experience striker between 30-33 yo would be ideal to aid his development.

Waffler Romano's latest video suggests we are only looking at long term signings, in other words no experienced stop gap to help him develop quicker

 

[sglowrider]

Some people on here are so impatient. One week we have the guy, the next week, "kneejerk" signing. Why not give the lad a chance. Not everyone can be haaland, some players take time to adjust to a new league let alone a new club. For me Sesko has shown glimpses of what he can do. He didnt have a pre season with us and was injured since April. But he has shown good link up play, strength and has bagged a couple of goals. He's playing in a front three that is new and in a team that is trying to learn a new system. He deserves a full season before we rashly judge him and two seasons before we "write him off".

100%. Its ridiculous how people want to pass judgement on a player who just got there. Either people want to cosplay as some professional manager, trainer or scout here, or they are trying to be smarter than they actually are. They certainly lack self-awareness or even the history of United players.

Andy Cole took quite a while to get going, and he was already a prolific scorer even when we bought him. Our Redcaf scouts/managers would have sold him back to Newcastle within a month.

Sesko is 22. A long way from his peak. We got him without much pre-season if any. He has however shown glimpses of his potential and at this stage of his United career that's all I can ask for.

 

[croadyman]

Agree on the running power. He’s not running the channels much nor in behind, and although fast he hasn’t shown it at all for us.

Yeah we need to see more of these attributes

 

[The_Midfielder]

He will get goals once he figures out how the team plays and how we figure out what he wants ..
He is functional.. he allows us to play forward.. can hold up the play..

 

[Tallis]

I think he has 3 goal contributions in his last 4 games. What exactly are you guys expecting ?

From what I have seen, he provides quite a bit more than Rasmus. He is a better target for long balls and can also interplay with the AMs, something which Rasmus struggled to do. We have a long standing problem under Amorim of not creating enough for our strikers. But he has been able to get 2-3 good shots away in each of the games he has played.

 

[AkaAkuma]

I’m not too worried, he’s currently playing a support role to Mbeumo, Cunha, Amad.

I do believe once he grows into the league we’ve got an elite striker of the ball. Someone who can score the unexpected.

 

[croadyman]

I’m not too worried, he’s currently playing a support role to Mbeumo, Cunha, Amad.

I do believe once he grows into the league we’ve got an elite striker of the ball. Someone who can score the unexpected.

Hopefully you are right

 

[Ali Dia]

To be honest actually I think if Rasmus got his chances this year he’d be burying more of them. Just based on the kinds of chances they are and how much more aggressive the frontline looks in general. He’d have been a much improved player this year if he’d stayed I think.

Sesko is much better at holding up the ball and occupying defenders so at his worst he always offers that above Ras but who knows really who ends up being the more effective player in the long run.

 

[golden_blunder]

Why are we so reluctant to play to him more?

He’s settling into a new country, a new league and tactical for example against Liverpool when we wanted to win the 2nd balls so went with Mount instead

 

[Buster15]

Give the young man a chance before we label him a failure.

 

[Matt851]

Not impressive so far but surely the team needs to play a bit more to his strengths

 

[klayton88]

He’s settling into a new country, a new league and tactical for example against Liverpool when we wanted to win the 2nd balls so went with Mount instead

Other players bought for other teams are also settling in to the league and already scoring goals. Why is it United players seem to get a seasons grace period? Everything about Sesko so far looks like we've bought another dud but plenty of people saying he'll come good based on pure hope. Anybody saying he'll come good might be right, but are also basing it on absolutley nothing. To me he's shown nothing to suggest he'll ever be a prolific striker, nothing about him screams clinical. He looks lost.

 

[golden_blunder]

Other players bought for other teams are also settling in to the league and already scoring goals. Why is it United players seem to get a seasons grace period? Everything about Sesko so far looks like we've bought another dud but plenty of people saying he'll come good based on pure hope. Anybody saying he'll come good might be right, but are also basing it on absolutley nothing. To me he's shown nothing to suggest he'll ever be a prolific striker, nothing about him screams clinical. He looks lost.

2 points I want to make. Not every player adjusts at the same pace. They are humans not robots.

Some of you guys are getting earlier every year in making your minds up about players. No wonder the stress level is greater at United.

Actually, 3rd point. He is not going to be a 20 league goals a season. He’s more a Firminho than a Kane

 

[Hammondo]

Other players bought for other teams are also settling in to the league and already scoring goals. Why is it United players seem to get a seasons grace period? Everything about Sesko so far looks like we've bought another dud but plenty of people saying he'll come good based on pure hope. Anybody saying he'll come good might be right, but are also basing it on absolutley nothing. To me he's shown nothing to suggest he'll ever be a prolific striker, nothing about him screams clinical. He looks lost.

And some are struggling, that's how it works.

 

[romanian_fan]

Still early days, some worrying signs like his finishing and very slow turning of his body which makes him very predictable in the box, but that can be trained and adapted.

Compared to Rasmus, he shows up in much better positions and, most importantly, is much much better and link-up play and hold up play. All he needs is a streak of goals and he'll be fine.

 

[Matt851]

Other players bought for other teams are also settling in to the league and already scoring goals. Why is it United players seem to get a seasons grace period? Everything about Sesko so far looks like we've bought another dud but plenty of people saying he'll come good based on pure hope. Anybody saying he'll come good might be right, but are also basing it on absolutley nothing. To me he's shown nothing to suggest he'll ever be a prolific striker, nothing about him screams clinical. He looks lost.

I am concerned about him partly because his start just reinforces existing concerns about him. He looks an awkward finisher amd isn't very good technically so what is he so good at that makes him worth a big fee?

We also don't cross the ball which neuters one of his strengths. At the moment it seems we wanted him for link play which he is just OK at

We also have a pretty poor track record for improving young players, especially when they have a poor start

 

[sglowrider]

Hopefully you are right

You know how Amorim is -- he is quite conservative when it comes to bedding in players -- from the academy or players from outside the league.

 

[Bondi77]

He will be fine.
He has great technique and he is putting in a shift in every game.

 

[Hammondo]

I am concerned about him partly because his start just reinforces existing concerns about him. He looks an awkward finisher amd isn't very good technically so what is he so good at that makes him worth a big fee?

We also don't cross the ball which neuters one of his strengths. At the moment it seems we wanted him for link play which he is just OK at

We also have a pretty poor track record for improving young players, especially when they have a poor start

I would argue he looks technically better than most strikers.

 

[izec]

To be honest actually I think if Rasmus got his chances this year he’d be burying more of them. Just based on the kinds of chances they are and how much more aggressive the frontline looks in general. He’d have been a much improved player this year if he’d stayed I think.

Sesko is much better at holding up the ball and occupying defenders so at his worst he always offers that above Ras but who knows really who ends up being the more effective player in the long run.

I also think he would have improved, especially since we updated the guys behind him. I would have sold Zirkzee and rotated Sesko with Hojlund, but it is what it is now.

 

[AndyMUFC]

He played a substantial part in the three wins we had, wasn't great at the weekend but not many were.

I thnk people's expectations are just completely out of whack.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

I am concerned about him partly because his start just reinforces existing concerns about him. He looks an awkward finisher amd isn't very good technically so what is he so good at that makes him worth a big fee?

We also don't cross the ball which neuters one of his strengths. At the moment it seems we wanted him for link play which he is just OK at

We also have a pretty poor track record for improving young players, especially when they have a poor start

Yup, seems like an decent player at best. His poor finishing is my main concern.

 

[FrankDrebin]

He will be fine.
He has great technique and he is putting in a shift in every game.

Apart from a early quick turn and snapshot outside the area I thought he looked worryingly disinterested against Forest.

 

[sullydnl]

Key piece of context for this deal in my mind is that we know the primary alternative we had was Ollie Watkins.

Who has only scored one league goal this season despite starting three more games than Sesko and supposedly being the more PL ready, instant-impact player.

So while I have doubts about Sesko generally, I don't particularly doubt we made the right buy based on the options we had available.

It's not like we didn't try other players before Sesko either, but the likes of Gyokeres and Delap haven't been spectacular successes so far themselves. The only striker we were linked with who I think has looked better is Ekitike.

 

[FromTheBench]

Key piece of context for this deal in my mind is that we know the primary alternative we had was Ollie Watkins.

Who has only scored one league goal this season despite starting three more games than Sesko and supposedly being the more PL ready, instant-impact player.

So while I have doubts about Sesko generally, I don't particularly doubt we made the right buy based on the options we had available.

It's not like we didn't try other players before Sesko either, but the likes of Gyokeres and Delap haven't been spectacular successes so far themselves. The only striker we were linked with who I think has looked better is Ekitike.

Yeah, but it wasnt like we had to just buy a Striker whoever it maybe. And if we had to could have gotten someone like a Kroupi etc.. for a gamble or a Welbeck for short term.

And then Could have spent elsewhere instead and just kept Hoijlund.

Also Newcastle seem to have lucked out on Voltemade after missing out on Sesko.

Anyway, having said that i think Sesko may come good but will take time. Main improvement needs to be his finishing.

 

[Gavinb33]

Jury’s out on him says Gary Neville. The Jury of the fecking world.

I mean this isn't controversial is it, Florian Wirtz the jury is out, Isak moving to Liverpool the jury is out.

Sesko has done ok but not outstanding, he has a couple of goals and some nice play but nothing over 90 minutes or a run of games yet so the jury is still out, there isn't a world where anyone can say until he proves it that he will become great, we can hope and of course we have seen nice bits of his game but largely he has been just ok.

 

[Lentwood]

I am very encouraged by what I have seen to-date but my concern is that some fans / pundits don't really understand his role in the team and are expecting a 25+ goal a season man.

His primary job is to bring the midfield / Mbuemo into play, and we have already seen his hold-up play, awareness and understanding with his new teammates is very good.

Of course, he needs to score some goals too, but if he can get to 15, for example, and he can help Cunha and Mbuemo get 15+ each, that's ideal!

 

[Gordon'sHill]

I am very encouraged by what I have seen to-date but my concern is that some fans / pundits don't really understand his role in the team and are expecting a 25+ goal a season man.

His primary job is to bring the midfield / Mbuemo into play, and we have already seen his hold-up play, awareness and understanding with his new teammates is very good.

Of course, he needs to score some goals too, but if he can get to 15, for example, and he can help Cunha and Mbuemo get 15+ each, that's ideal!

I disagree. It was said about Weghorst by one journalist, a CF who is not a goal threat is not a CF. Yes part of his role is to link play and hold the ball up, which is actually vital under Amorim's system as he doesn't like to build up via the midfield but rather in the first instance by bypassing it. He has shown some nice touches in earlier games but quite limited. Given his height he doesn't seem to win that many headers, and on Saturday his touches were limited and really poor. I am still struggling to see where his goals will come from, we haven't seen him to be that good with his head (and we don't cross that much anyway), and I had heard about his shooting but again limited signs so far. I am in no way writing him off but so far overall he is disappointing. You need a CF playing as a target man to be able to impose themselves on games and make the ball stick. He just doesnt do that.

 

[Tallis]

Oh god. Are you guys really starting with this after he has started 6-7 games ?

 

[bosnian_red]

I disagree. It was said about Weghorst by one journalist, a CF who is not a goal threat is not a CF. Yes part of his role is to link play and hold the ball up, which is actually vital under Amorim's system as he doesn't like to build up via the midfield but rather in the first instance by bypassing it. He has shown some nice touches in earlier games but quite limited. Given his height he doesn't seem to win that many headers, and on Saturday his touches were limited and really poor. I am still struggling to see where his goals will come from, we haven't seen him to be that good with his head (and we don't cross that much anyway), and I had heard about his shooting but again limited signs so far. I am in no way writing him off but so far overall he is disappointing. You need a CF playing as a target man to be able to impose themselves on games and make the ball stick. He just doesnt do that.

Plain false to say he doesn't win headers when he's in the 81st percentile of aerial duels won so far. Heavily impacted by the forest game which didn't go as well in that regard, was like 90's before it. Generally his hold up play has been very good IMO. And you look at his last 5 games, 2 goals, 1 assist, a very good sub appearance vs Liverpool and then the below par game against Forest when everyone was off it.. it's like people were just waiting with pitchforks for the 1 off game despite 4 good ones before.

 

[Pyro19]

As someone posted - 3 goal involvements already - decent with holdup play and takes some nice touches. Why exactly is the jury out already?