That's where I see him too. Wouldn't have declined the contract without a big club already in advanced talks and Real makes sense.
Benjamin Pavard
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A back 3 of Pavard-Varane-Licha 
Maybe he sees us as big club
Really hope we can at least approach his agent and get things rolling.
How does he fare in a higher line, 1-vs-1, aerially, his recovery pace etc? Proactive or reactive defending?
He was the bees knees a few years ago. Why the Bayern exit? Is he not getting enough minutes or has his development stalled?
He has been in Germany for 7 years (first Stuttgart and then Bayern) and is simply looking for a new challenge.
Would love him at Utd he’s been impressive every time I’ve seen him although I doubt he’d be happy to compete with Varane.
Unless we plan on playing a back 3 or deploying him at RB.
Any resident Bundesliga watchers in here?
The last I can recall, Pavard was struggling at Bayern and the fans didn't want him in the 11. This was a couple of years ago now so maybe he turned things around.
The last I can recall, Pavard was struggling at Bayern and the fans didn't want him in the 11. This was a couple of years ago now so maybe he turned things around.
No way he accepts playing at RB. He wants to play CB primarily I believe.
If we pull this off & KMJ as well, then it's serious that ETH wants at least 2 quality players for every position
If we pull this off & KMJ as well, then it's serious that ETH wants at least 2 quality players for every position
That is an in possession shape, but Shaw would be the one inverting rather than Pavard.We haven’t even signed him and you’ve placed him in midfield a position he hasn’t played in , and we’ve a new formation we’ve never played
Surely one or the other? I think Lindelof stays and Maguire goes. That does leave 2 quality players for every position.
He was struggling for a bit, but he evolved into a usually rock solid player and no one has issues with playing him I believe. The big problem in a way is that he prefers playing as CB but for Bayern he usually had to play RB. His perfect position probably was the RCB in Nagelsmann's 3241 system, but that didn't exist for long.
Agree with u that Lindelof stays & Maguire goes.
Along with Jones, Mengi, Tuanzebe & Bailly.
With so many CBs leaving, surely we buy 2 at least?
Yes, @VP89
I think if we're comfortable with Shaw dropping in at CB in emergency cases, it's fine. None of those players have played a single minute for us this season.
dream right back signing for me.
pavard varane Licha shaw is seriously good.
pavard varane Licha shaw is seriously good.
Pavard is going to ruin me
This. We should be all over him right now
The latter four are complete non-entities in terms of having to replace them in the first team.
Maguire basically shared his minutes with Lindelof this season, so (bar about two games a month ago where we had to play them together) we don't really NEED to replace even him. We probably will as it does leave us a bit short, but there's a few positions in the team that need signing more than one CB. We definitely wouldn't need two.
That looks beautiful.A back 3 of Pavard-Varane-Licha
As near a perfect RB signing as we could make. His progression and all aspects of his game are exactly the kind of profile we’re missing.
https://fbref.com/en/players/45a03961/scout/365_m1/Benjamin-Pavard-Scouting-Report
https://fbref.com/en/players/45a03961/scout/365_m1/Benjamin-Pavard-Scouting-Report
He's leaving because he doesn't want to play RB...
Even as a CB his progression is ridiculous. I’d sign him as a Maguire replacement too.
Oh agreed. I haven't seen him play much there but seems to be just as highly rated as a CB. Either Pavard or Kim I'd be very happy with.
He’s very good on the ball. Passing is constantly forward and accurate. Exact kind of CB/RB you’d want in build up.
I don't think we're seriously interested in Kim so this looks the more likely signing. Now Dalot has signed his contract I'd expect Wan-Bissaka to move on along with Maguire, Pavard can effectively replace both. I know he prefers not to be at RB but he could be first-choice there and move to CB when Varane is missing.
RB: Pavard / Dalot
RCB: Varane / Pavard / Lindelof
LCB: Martinez / Lindelof / Shaw
LB: Shaw / Malacia / Dalot
That's probably enough cover across defence, might occasionally need someone else on the bench or to play the odd game but that could be done by a youth or Williams if he's still here.
RB: Pavard / Dalot
RCB: Varane / Pavard / Lindelof
LCB: Martinez / Lindelof / Shaw
LB: Shaw / Malacia / Dalot
That's probably enough cover across defence, might occasionally need someone else on the bench or to play the odd game but that could be done by a youth or Williams if he's still here.
That doesn't look like enough cover for me if I'm honest.
Varane is fairly injury prone, and looking at our injuries now and that were to happen next year again with both him and Martinez out for a month or two, you're basically looking at Pavard and Lindelof as two central defenders to cover all the games. Even with Shaw as the third choice, that means Malacia as the left back who I still think has a lot to learn.
I am no fan of Maguire and I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him but brought two defenders in - one experienced and one for the future. I don't think we have anyone coming through the youth who can make the step up to the seniors / first team next season off the top of my head
Swap with Maguire.
Ho w about Maguire + €40m and you get to keep Maguire. Deal?
Maguire+McTominay final offer.
We will also throw VDB.
Careful, we want them to accept it.
Some dubious sources linking us with him, would be perfect tbh. Cheap too.
Unless Maguire leaves I don't see united moving for a defender.
Pavard/ Disasi/ Caicedo/ Onana/Ramos
Would 100% be dependent on Maguire leaving. Same goes for McTominay, if he doesnt leave, I dont see us getting any other signings apart from Mount in midfield.
In Maguires case it doesn't bother me as much due to the presence of Lindelof and Shaw. But with Mctominay we should be insisting he moves on. It will cost us somehow if we rely on him as Case deputy. We're already in talks with Brighton for Caicedo so probably we'll move for him or someone else (he's going to cost a lot) either way.
Onana - Pavard - Lavia - Mount - Ramos
Costa - Pavard - Caicedo - Le Fee - Hojlund