He looks like a worse Giroud. 90 mil seems insane. Hopefully we sign Ramos and not this guy.
Benjamin Sesko | Arsenal working on deal
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It seems like his centre of gravity is at the top of his head. Pass for me. Give me Gyokeres.
It seems like the missing piece of the jigsaw for Arteta and Arsenal is a ready made striker but they're going for potential again.
I'm really surprised they're not going for Gyokores but hopefully that opens the path for us now.
I'm really surprised they're not going for Gyokores but hopefully that opens the path for us now.
He just looks like a slightly less slick Welbeck to me but that's just me.
He expressed a desire to not challenge for a domestic league title or play in Europe in preference to extremely good personal terms and a lengthy contract.
Will be good to see him in the PL
Whenever I've seen him he hasn't looked like a WC player, but he has a few amazing moments that get you off your seat.
He should be well in the Arsenal team and will help them keep hold of their runners up trophy for another year.
Whenever I've seen him he hasn't looked like a WC player, but he has a few amazing moments that get you off your seat.
He should be well in the Arsenal team and will help them keep hold of their runners up trophy for another year.
If I were a striker like that I reckon I'd be quite excited to play with Saka and Odegaard (assuming he can retract his locks from his anus). Hope he flops of course.
huh?
I'm not fully sold on him, it's a big risk to blow 70/80m if he needs 2/3 years to fulfill his potential. Gyokeres has his doubts too.
It sucks that the moment we're determined to fix the striker issue, the candidates are underwhelming.
I mean if I were to talk about the weaknesses of Arsenal I would its the left wing and the striker. So yes I would be determined to fix at least one of the issues this summer. Strikers any summer you're going to have to pay a premium. So if your boss thinks Sesko is the best of the lot, then go for him. Also Rafael Leao just became available. He should suit your LW for £50-55m.
visually, looks a bit like Crouchy, doesn't he? Very similar running style, very similar way they handle the ball.
Real 9 like this surely is the missing piece. Havertz getting in the box, odegaartz pulling the strings, rice sweeping up?
Liverpool will still be there, City will be improved, but these guys would have to be favorites no?
Liverpool will still be there, City will be improved, but these guys would have to be favorites no?
No. They ain't got the mentality of champions when it matters
I certainly wouldn't have them as favourites.
Liverpool will do more business than them from a better starting point and I'd also have City ahead of them.
When we made the Hojlund purchase, I'm pretty sure we were hoping for the next Haaland, or at the least, a player with Sesko's potential, who you endure the growing pains for in the belief you may have something truly special on your hands a couple of years down the line.
Until he has his prophesised breakout season, he'll remain an erratic player capable of the sublime whilst also looking quite raw at times. Obviously, if you're spending £70m, £80m or more on a player, the scrutiny and assessment of him and what success is perceived to be is very different to what that looks like for a player purchased for half of that - if he comes to the PL and isn't an immediate impact player, it's clear the knives will be out for him with some people despite it being known by anyone tracking his development in the expectation of this world class player emerging, that he's no dead cert to be edging towards that breakout season right now. It may happen. It may not. There's no real inkling that he's for sure going stellar right at this moment in time.
In the interim a club and its fanbase have to determine what is deemed acceptable in terms of productivity in the next 12-18 months. How many goals scored should be the bare minimum? What, outside of goals themselves represent good or great contribution?
Arsenal or Liverpool would be perfect clubs for him in terms of having teams that have their way of functioning and ability to insulate him and themselves from his potential ups and downs on the road to potential superstardom. We, however, need to hit the ground running with as much of the finished, productive article as we can find - our dabbling with erraticism should be coming off the bench, rotating with the main man carrying the burden of guiding us back into the light. Unless the likes of Cunha, Mbeumo, Bruno and Amad immediately gel and output at an extraordinary rate to carry the team, we don't have the capability or capacity to nurture a prospect centre-forward whilst winning the majority of our games unabated - it's most assuredly all hands on deck for us next season, otherwise the manager is out of a job by October/November. Contrast that with the aforementioned sides who won't be so concerned with form in the first half of the season as opposed to hitting peak performance at the business end as teams at the top are wont to do.
If you have time on your side, Sesko is the player half of the footballing world has expectations of becoming a genuine world class player who may well be seen as a bargain a few years down the line; if you're in a predicament where the next year or two is defining, he's not the kind of player to gamble on because maturation has no definitive means of procurement. If we were more established with our shit in order, he'd be the player to go for, but we're far, far away from that and need impact players in the immediacy of a couple of months that can eventually enable us to become a club who can take in a player like Sesko without destabilising everything else, or whilst being effective enough for his growth to be organic.
Can see a path where Sesko and Gyokeres arrive in the PL at the same time and the latter outperforms the former for a season or two before Sesko realises his potential and becomes one of the superstars of the league.
Until he has his prophesised breakout season, he'll remain an erratic player capable of the sublime whilst also looking quite raw at times. Obviously, if you're spending £70m, £80m or more on a player, the scrutiny and assessment of him and what success is perceived to be is very different to what that looks like for a player purchased for half of that - if he comes to the PL and isn't an immediate impact player, it's clear the knives will be out for him with some people despite it being known by anyone tracking his development in the expectation of this world class player emerging, that he's no dead cert to be edging towards that breakout season right now. It may happen. It may not. There's no real inkling that he's for sure going stellar right at this moment in time.
In the interim a club and its fanbase have to determine what is deemed acceptable in terms of productivity in the next 12-18 months. How many goals scored should be the bare minimum? What, outside of goals themselves represent good or great contribution?
Arsenal or Liverpool would be perfect clubs for him in terms of having teams that have their way of functioning and ability to insulate him and themselves from his potential ups and downs on the road to potential superstardom. We, however, need to hit the ground running with as much of the finished, productive article as we can find - our dabbling with erraticism should be coming off the bench, rotating with the main man carrying the burden of guiding us back into the light. Unless the likes of Cunha, Mbeumo, Bruno and Amad immediately gel and output at an extraordinary rate to carry the team, we don't have the capability or capacity to nurture a prospect centre-forward whilst winning the majority of our games unabated - it's most assuredly all hands on deck for us next season, otherwise the manager is out of a job by October/November. Contrast that with the aforementioned sides who won't be so concerned with form in the first half of the season as opposed to hitting peak performance at the business end as teams at the top are wont to do.
If you have time on your side, Sesko is the player half of the footballing world has expectations of becoming a genuine world class player who may well be seen as a bargain a few years down the line; if you're in a predicament where the next year or two is defining, he's not the kind of player to gamble on because maturation has no definitive means of procurement. If we were more established with our shit in order, he'd be the player to go for, but we're far, far away from that and need impact players in the immediacy of a couple of months that can eventually enable us to become a club who can take in a player like Sesko without destabilising everything else, or whilst being effective enough for his growth to be organic.
Can see a path where Sesko and Gyokeres arrive in the PL at the same time and the latter outperforms the former for a season or two before Sesko realises his potential and becomes one of the superstars of the league.
Really hope they blow 80 odd million on this guy
Thats why Im not a professional scout, as they see 10x more potencial in Sesko than Dávid Strelec. When the latter is way more talented technically, an allrounder with good to great ingrediences in every strikers departement, unlike a quiet limited Sesko.
If Strelec makes that expected 10mil move to Celtic and Sesko 80m+ switch to PL I´ll keep an eye on both players fortunes. My money is on Strelec.
If Strelec makes that expected 10mil move to Celtic and Sesko 80m+ switch to PL I´ll keep an eye on both players fortunes. My money is on Strelec.
If Arsenal had signed Gyokeres early and we in turn ended up with Sesko, I suspect we’d both be happy
Both good players
Who adapts better to EPL?…time will tell
Both good players
Who adapts better to EPL?…time will tell
They need a goal scorer up front and 13 goals in the BL isn't going to cut it. He has some nice touches but arsenal need more that pretty flicks
Left foot ,right foot,can head the ball, can dribble with both feet ,has the balls to pull off the outrageous, he's like a Zlatan lite version ( when he was at Ajax)
He's going to be very good for Arsenal
He's going to be very good for Arsenal
Gyokeres is better than sesko in my opinion. Just wondering why Arsenal opted for him instead. Is it that he doesn’t fit there style like sesko does or is it that Gyokeres told them he wants us?
Sesko is who they wanted last summer
I think Liverpool and city will still be ahead of Arsenal in terms of being favourites. Purely because them 2 show they can win titles. Alls that Arsenal have shown is how to bottle them.
He does probably fit there style more aswell, they won’t want Gyokeres running the channels when they have Martinelli there.
Yeah but this is the 6th phase. It's all about phases DJ. It was all part of the plan.
Liverpool have to be favourites with City b lose behind. I’d expect the champions to be one of these 2
With their dealings i fully expect Liverpool to walk the league again with Arsenal/City battling it out for 2nd. I think we'll have to endure one more year of Salah/VVD doing it before they actually decline.
You are out to lunch if you think this guy is the solution for Arsenal. Super wasteful with some flashy moments. Nice profile and that's about it, obviously he can develop into a decent striker under a good coach, but he is nowhere near the level Premier League and Arsenal requires. Blow the wad on the lad and you'll find out.
Yep they ain’t winning the league by signing him. I would be far more concerned if they signed Gyokeres.
We face low blocks in the PL 90% of the time so need a Sesko profile more than a Gyokeres. I agree that Gyokeres is currently the better finisher but he will not find the space to operate at Arsenal.
Sesko is 22 with all the attributes to blossom into a WC striker in a year or 2. Our title hopes definitely won't be on his shoulders hence rumors of the likes of Rodrygo as well to add more fire power from all areas
Why did Arsenal move on from Gyokeres? If they went for him first then surely he was plan A? Why are they working on a more expensive youngster?
I can only assume they think Sesko's attributes suit them better even if the immediate readiness is sacrificed.
Sesko is a bigger threat with his head and they maybe feel getting a striker who feeds off crosses is a priority.
Likely for the reason that no team has gone in for Gykores, they're not fully convinced.
I'd happily take either. Mikel Merino got 9 G/A in 12 games as a CF for us. Havertz, for all the hate, has 33 G/A in 47 games as CF.
Our problem last season was the long term injuries we suffered to our captain and playmaker (Odegaard), best player (Saka), fastest player (Martinelli), 1st choice striker (Havertz) and 2nd choice striker (Jesus). It was too much.
I'm not fussy. Any half decent striker is fine with me.
I assume it comes down to who suited there style more. Gyokeres likes to run the channels a lot. He’d get in Martinelli way.
Levels above in technique. It's even comparable.
It’s reported that Arteta has been interested in Sesko for a good while. It’s probably now or never for him. He has another great season and other teams will be in for him next season. They’re taking the first move gamble.
Arsenal are”trying” to do the deal on the cheap . To a degree that’s understandable but they are in grave danger of other clubs stepping in and hijacking the deal. Indeed it seems that Chelsea may well have already done just that as reports suggesting that he is ironically a cheaper option
Arsenal fans sweating
Arsenal fans sweating
If and that’s a big IF Sesko goes to Saudi then Arsenal will go after Gyokeres which I don’t want. So I’m also “sweating” about this.