gooDevil
Worst scout ever
What a joke. As if Real are worried about City poaching their players.According to @BobbyManc, who seems well-informed, Real and City have an agreement not to poach players from each other.
What a joke. As if Real are worried about City poaching their players.According to @BobbyManc, who seems well-informed, Real and City have an agreement not to poach players from each other.
Imagine being treated like a king for years and years, I suspect you come to think you can get away with anything.In the end, that's why he won't face anything serious IMHO even if I just don't understand how he could be so fecking stupid to get involved in something like this.
Abu Dhabi give Madrid loads of money through sponsorship. It works that way.What a joke. As if Real are worried about City poaching their players.
Wait, I was being serious about the rumour though. I know it's far fetched but I had just read that article a few hours before TH made the Aguero post.Ahh, okay, Vato wasn't serious. Got me there.
Meh, Qatar ar trying to put themselves on the map, that alone doesn't show anything, they've sponsored everyone and they're dog.Abu Dhabi give Madrid loads of money through sponsorship. It works that way.
Rumours of a deal agreed for Lewandowski already. Wouldn't mind him joining us.
Right, but you'd think a player like Aguero would tempt Real into making a bid. @BobbyManc says it's to do with Arab funding for Real's ground expansion, or something like that.What a joke. As if Real are worried about City poaching their players.
I think it involves not going after the same targets as well, Madrid wouldn't want City's pockets driving up the transfer fee or wages.Right, but you'd think a player like Aguero would tempt Real into making a bid. @BobbyManc says it's to do with Arab funding for Real's ground expansion, or something like that.
It all sounds a bit incestuous whatever it is.I think it involves not going after the same targets as well, Madrid wouldn't want City's pockets driving up the transfer fee or wages.
As good as Aguero is surely it's not worth Real paying that kind of fee for a guy who is constantly missing chunks of games. Benzema might not be as good but what I can recall he is mostly fit and has always been a good foil for Ronaldo.Right, but you'd think a player like Aguero would tempt Real into making a bid. @BobbyManc says it's to do with Arab funding for Real's ground expansion, or something like that.
True that.Imagine being treated like a king for years and years, I suspect you come to think you can get away with anything.
You are a bit harsh.Meh, Qatar ar trying to put themselves on the map, that alone doesn't show anything, they've sponsored everyone and they're dog.
Qatar is a country, and Abu Dhabi is the capital of Emirates. Two different countries.Meh, Qatar ar trying to put themselves on the map, that alone doesn't show anything, they've sponsored everyone and they're dog.
They might win CruftsMeh, Qatar ar trying to put themselves on the map, that alone doesn't show anything, they've sponsored everyone and they're dog.
Maybe he'd miss less games in La Liga. The thought of Aguero and Ronaldo in the same forward line is frightening.As good as Aguero is surely it's not worth Real paying that kind of fee for a guy who is constantly missing chunks of games. Benzema might not be as good but what I can recall he is mostly fit and has always been a good foil for Ronaldo.
Is it? Aguero playing on the flanks or as a facilitator for Ronaldo is questionable and may also not be worth the money. Never mind his constant injuries.Maybe he'd miss less games in La Liga. The thought of Aguero and Ronaldo in the same forward line is frightening.
Sorry, Emirates is sponsoring everyone and their dog.Qatar is a country, and Abu Dhabi is the capital of Emirates. Two different countries.
We haven't bid on Aguero, or Messi, it's not necessarily because of an agreement or bribe.Right, but you'd think a player like Aguero would tempt Real into making a bid. @BobbyManc says it's to do with Arab funding for Real's ground expansion, or something like that.
He will make a movie. Better than the Ronaldo one... more action.So, what will happen to Benzema now?
Oh my days, if City have Real under their thumb then we might as well just call it a day, it's laughable, but sadly somewhat believable.According to @BobbyManc, who seems well-informed, Real and City have an agreement not to poach players from each other.
You've got admit Carvajal that this sounds wrong, if 'the sheik' wants to finance the Bernabeu then it should be done totally independently to anything that is going on at City, the way you're saying it, and other people are inferring is that this deal was only struck on the understanding that Madrid (the kings of the transfer market) are scared off going near any of City's players for fear of what might happen, for want of a better word it's pathetic, and certainly not healthy in football terms.Madrid needs the money of the sheik to finance the new Bernabeu,500 m€. The things are not very clear but would be something like "Abu Dhabi" or Cepsa Bernabeu. Florentino had other plans but not related to Madrid but ACS(the theme park seems a forgotten project),among them some kind of contract in Abu Dhabi airport. City sheik tried to buy Madrid years ago but couldn't.
I don't think that is a strong agreement but some deal to not provoke players rebellions or light the fuse with the press.Florentino asked for Kun and the sheik refused.I think that after that Kun renewed.
Florentino also cares the relationship with PSG,in thiscase for a highway in Qatar. Anyway in Spanish press there are hardly news about this
So basically Aguero and probably Silva too are slaves who won't be allowed leave their club to go to a better team in a country they'd much rather live and play in. If that's true I'm surprised no clubs have gotten wind of this and complained. It would basically be one of the most unethical things encountered in football.Madrid needs the money of the sheik to finance the new Bernabeu,500 m€. The things are not very clear but would be something like "Abu Dhabi" or Cepsa Bernabeu. Florentino had other plans but not related to Madrid but ACS(the theme park seems a forgotten project),among them some kind of contract in Abu Dhabi airport. City sheik tried to buy Madrid years ago but couldn't.
I don't think that is a strong agreement but some deal to not provoke players rebellions or light the fuse with the press.Florentino asked for Kun and the sheik refused.I think that after that Kun renewed.
Florentino also cares the relationship with PSG,in thiscase for a highway in Qatar. Anyway in Spanish press there are hardly news about this
Hello my friend, how are you? I didn´t see you for a while.You've got admit Carvajal that this sounds wrong, if 'the sheik' wants to finance the Bernabeu then it should be done totally independently to anything that is going on at City, the way you're saying it, and other people are inferring is that this deal was only struck on the understanding that Madrid (the kings of the transfer market) are scared off going near any of City's players for fear of what might happen, for want of a better word it's pathetic, and certainly not healthy in football terms.
Surprised Madrid want investment from these sources myself, what's wrong with a good old bank loan, never did United any harm ...
In the universe in which his agent would love to whore him out to a 'much bigger club'.In which universe are Bayern selling their world class striker who is in the form of his life and has a contract until 2019 without any available replacement in sight?
@Balu
Not only that but also the firmness with which they work in City. Tevez, who rebelled , could be a good example, or Toure, who threatened to leave in every possible way and finished accepting the situation. They also tend to renew the players well in advance.So basically Aguero and probably Silva too are slaves who won't be allowed leave their club to go to a better team in a country they'd much rather live and play in. If that's true I'm surprised no clubs have gotten wind of this and complained. It would basically be one of the most unethical things encountered in football.
I'm good thanks amigo (check my Spanish out!), I am still fairly active on here, just not so much DDG chat to get us crossing swords atm maybe, but I'm sure we'll back to that soon enough.Hello my friend, how are you? I didn´t see you for a while.
You're right , at least I don´t like to see Florentino mixing Madrid with the welfare of his company, but then it must be admitted who are the new bosses of football. Even the FFP can´t stop them . Madrid does not have unlimited money and may need to be protected in some way , as well as stop any future interest in the team . In any case, I have very little information and City fans probably know more .
With the current situation in Spain they can´t afford to ask those scandalous bank loans and less with the debate on the debt and the different accountings
You sound like the catholic church. Then again, American football has had it's share of pedos in high school football and the sport is notorious for bullying.Benzema is a straight up cnut. Not sure how Benzema and Valbuena could ever be expected to share a locker room again for France. Sanctity of the locker room is sacred in American sports, I'm thinking it'd be the same in this scenario as well.
To quote John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.So basically Aguero and probably Silva too are slaves who won't be allowed leave their club to go to a better team in a country they'd much rather live and play in. If that's true I'm surprised no clubs have gotten wind of this and complained. It would basically be one of the most unethical things encountered in football.
From the recording it doesn't seem like he is genuinely worried about Benzema. Also, he obviously knows how to get in contact with the person who has the tape (probably even knows his name), so he could have gone to the authorities and outed this "friend's friend"...So Benzema is in trouble cause he's trying to use his connections in the underworld to help Valbuena? What's wrong with that? He isn't black mailing him at all. He's just telling him he can get his tiny sex-video making behind connected to the guys that have the video to hear what they want.
And he shouldn't be. Its not him that's on the video. He's just a national team team-mate after all. How's this gonna lead to him not sleeping at night?From the recording it doesn't seem like he is genuinely worried about Benzema. Also, he obviously knows how to get in contact with the person who has the tape (probably even knows his name), so he could have gone to the authorities and outed this "friend's friend"...
This case would be just 3 judges (no jury).In order for it to be conspiracy to blackmail shouldn't a person do more than talk about what he said to the person who was blackmailed? It's not a crime to know a criminal.
What's the system like in France. A jury or just a judge/judges?
I prefer the judge system. Less chance of the lawyers manipulating people.This case would be just 3 judges (no jury).
I don't know about France specifically, but in most countries, knowingly neglecting to report a crime is a crime in itself. And while he might have been trying to help Valbuena out of the goodness of his heart, the transcript suggests that that's not the case. He's advicing him not to talk to anyone about it, and is heavily implying that it would be bad for Valbuena not to comply. He's far from innocent, the way I see it. The question is whether they have enough to get a conviction, especially given the generally higher standard of evidence needed to convict the rich and famous.So Benzema is in trouble cause he's trying to use his connections in the underworld to help Valbuena? What's wrong with that? He isn't black mailing him at all. He's just telling him he can get his tiny sex-video making behind connected to the guys that have the video to hear what they want.