Yeah exactly. The three guys who won it for us that season where Chicharito, Nani and Vidic. After those three, the contributions are far lesser from everyone else.
Berbatov's Appreciation Thread
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
If rashford was nani. He shoots that like an idiot. Instead of cleverly faking a shot and passing it to berbatov. I miss these damn players so much.0:52
Very talented and had some decent moments. But Ferguson made a mistake but here. It was a poor signing in hindsight and disrupted that great trio of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez.
Berbatov slowed things down far too much and was not a good fit for the club.
Berbatov slowed things down far too much and was not a good fit for the club.
I thought your post was a strange take at first but as I thought about it, it actually reflected my feelings at the time. As brilliant a player as he was, it never really felt like a fluid and well oiled setup with him alongside the likes of Rooney and Ronaldo. It felt like two completely different contrasts of high energy and high intensity and then berbatov being so laid back and casual. His lack of pace always felt like it unbalanced us as he was normally the furthest forward with the pacier Rooney plahing deeper.
is the only way to describe Berba.Agree with this, that front 3 was special to watch I was desperate for us to sign Tevez. Gutted he went to City
Yep Ronaldo Rooney and Tevez deserved at least 3 years together and I'm also upset at him for destroying that even though its not his fault. Tevez was such a better player for Utd than Berbatov.
A joy to watch but a waste in the nonetheless.
We shouldn't have gotten him in the first place, it was a mistake but that Liverpool hatrick was pretty cool so whatever.
We shouldn't have gotten him in the first place, it was a mistake but that Liverpool hatrick was pretty cool so whatever.
Who was available to buy as an alternative? I always remember being annoyed about the possibility of him joining City, but can’t remember if there was anyone else we could’ve signed?!
Bar a good first half of 2010/11 he was a problem at United. A big reason why we lost the league in 09/10 was his failure to step up when Rooney wasn’t playing well or was injured.
It’s weird how his time at United has been rewritten as though he’s some kind of legend by those who can’t remember the reality that he was a very frustrating player. It’s those moments of magic he was always capable of that get shown on social media years later I guess.
I actually think forcing Tevez out because of this guy was one of Fergie’s biggest mistakes.
It’s weird how his time at United has been rewritten as though he’s some kind of legend by those who can’t remember the reality that he was a very frustrating player. It’s those moments of magic he was always capable of that get shown on social media years later I guess.
I actually think forcing Tevez out because of this guy was one of Fergie’s biggest mistakes.
Not a big fan of his time with us.
Could have been great player for us, but it was like he didn't mind to much or something...
Could have been great player for us, but it was like he didn't mind to much or something...
Why didn't Fergie get a deal in place for when his loan was up,cannot understand the hesitation especially with Ronaldo leaving
I think we could have pushed for the likes of Aguero and Zlatan around that time. Benzema too maybe. But after Cantona Fergie had a weakness for this type of maverick like Berbatov, hence the effort to sign Di Canio in 2001. Didn’t work out as Bernatov just wasn’t good enough unfortunately.
I really dont understand people who are saying they were not fans of Berbatov. You have the right but it clearly says "appreciation thread" so the topic would be to say something nice about the man. For me it was that sublime West Ham assist and the whole 2011 season
tevez was offered a deal I’m pretty sure. he rejected it
I distinctly remember him playing behind Rooney in his first season. He only got the chance to score those 20 goals in his last (?) because Rooney was out for a very long period.
This threads confuse me. Why should we appreciate expensive flops? Should we open a pogba or a Veron's appreciation thread as well?
In all honesty he wasnt a flop nor was he a total success. His whole 2011 season is better than anything Veron or Pogba contributed in the shirt. Im not his biggest fan as I thought he was a bit slow for the league but that really isnt the point of this thread is it? If there was a Pogba appreciation thread I wouldnt even visit it since I really dont have much nice things to say about him. Berbatov has given us something to remember him by in terms of goals, assists and good moves. And like I said Im not his no. 1 fan but what is fair is fair
I really like him, both as a player and off of his interviews.
But I don't remember his time with us too fondly, bar the odd moment of sheer brilliance.
buying him meant the breakup of the chemistry that was there to be seen between Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez. It's not like it would have lasted forever with Ronaldo wanting to leave, but still... His addition to the team was never really it.
And what I remember most was his constant finger-pointing to the place someone should have - in his eyes - played him a pass to, but didn't.
Lukaku was like that too. Can't think of a single thing that annoys me more on a football pitch, not even diving or rolling around like an idiot to exaggerate an injury. I've no idea why it bothers me so much but that's that...
But I don't remember his time with us too fondly, bar the odd moment of sheer brilliance.
buying him meant the breakup of the chemistry that was there to be seen between Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez. It's not like it would have lasted forever with Ronaldo wanting to leave, but still... His addition to the team was never really it.
And what I remember most was his constant finger-pointing to the place someone should have - in his eyes - played him a pass to, but didn't.
Lukaku was like that too. Can't think of a single thing that annoys me more on a football pitch, not even diving or rolling around like an idiot to exaggerate an injury. I've no idea why it bothers me so much but that's that...
Did he though? Fergie’s reluctance to sign Tevez permanently was apparent long before any mention of Berbatov surfaced.
Various reasons have come up over the years: not wanting to deal with Tevez’s dodgy representatives; Tevez being an unprofessional twat off the field.
I agree that signing Berba wasn’t a great move, but I haven’t seen any evidence that he undermined Fergie’s desire to retain Tevez.
Yeah Berbatov being underwhelming isn’t necessarily a great argument in favor of keeping Tevez. I think Tevez’s time with us gets a bit overrated too, we certainly didn’t see the best of him. And he turned out to be a massive prick.
Ideally we sign Aguero instead of either Tevez/Berbatov in this period, and then of course Robben to replace Ronaldo. Some missed opportunities unfortunately which maybe cost us another CL and PL.
Ideally we sign Aguero instead of either Tevez/Berbatov in this period, and then of course Robben to replace Ronaldo. Some missed opportunities unfortunately which maybe cost us another CL and PL.
There is a reason our football was much better between 2006-2008. Signing Berbatov was a huge mistake, he slowed the team down and broke up the fluid, functional front three of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez (or Park/Saha).
There have been similar problems since with Zlatan and Cristiano. 15-20 league goals aren’t enough to make up for it. Chicharito was much better fit for the team, as was Tevez. (And later Cavani or instead of Cristiano, Martial instead of Zlatan etc.)
He wasn’t a flop per se. He was a talented player who had his moments. The club just never should have signed him. The team became slower and more predictable at the very instant. For me, the summer of 2008 was the start of the decline of Fergie’s last generation and our transfer policy in general.
There have been similar problems since with Zlatan and Cristiano. 15-20 league goals aren’t enough to make up for it. Chicharito was much better fit for the team, as was Tevez. (And later Cavani or instead of Cristiano, Martial instead of Zlatan etc.)
He wasn’t a flop per se. He was a talented player who had his moments. The club just never should have signed him. The team became slower and more predictable at the very instant. For me, the summer of 2008 was the start of the decline of Fergie’s last generation and our transfer policy in general.
I agree with the Tevez argument he didnt score much but he scored a few very important ones including a golden point that we won against Blackburn in 08 for the CL. He was a prick but he did his part in our most succesful period. There is no denying that
Comes into the Berba appreciation thread.
First thing I see is everyone slating Berba.
Standard sadcafe.
First thing I see is everyone slating Berba.
Standard sadcafe.
Did Berbatov ever play much in a front two with Hernandez? Berba's best position was as a languid second-striker who could feed a pacy striker who played on the shoulder. It would be interesting to see how Berba would play today as I think he would be converted to a false 9 which I think he would be ideally suited to. You would just need to get him to improve his off the ball work and press more and he would be an excellent current day player.
Yep you might be right. I just much preferred Tevez to Berbatov and we’d have been better off in years post-2009 if we’d had kept Tevez and not signed Berbatov.
I will never forget the away game against Blackpool, 3-2 comeback.
First half Scholes absolutely pings one to try to hit the right winger cross field, just about head height.
Berba, just raises his left leg and kills it dead and works a shot that was off target, but feck me if it wasn't the most impressive first touch I ever saw at the time. Couldn't conceive at the time how he did it and still can't in truth. Unbelievable.
Maybe you should just feck off from thread and continue being miserable cnut somewhere else?
Basically a striker version of Özil
nope.
I am real curious why we celebrate certain flops especially the lazy kind. Who knows maybe we'll have a Pogba appreciation thread soon.
You can open a thread of this want. Feck off from this one of you have no interest in appreciating Berbatov.
Are you sure about that? Berbatov 2010-2011 season saw him score 21 goals and 6 assists in 42 games. Pogba's 2018-2019 season saw him score 16 goals and producing 11 assists in 47 games. May we not forget that Pogba was playing in a worst team under a worst manager and in a deeper role. In my opinion they were luxury signings. The money could have been better spent elsewhere. Tevez was far more suited to our game then Berbatov
He would be amazing for us if he played in this current team.
as said I am curious in understanding the fascination towards this flop. As someone suggested he is really United's answer to Ozil.
How is Berbatov a flop? Do you know what he won with us?
I doubt it. ETH would certainly hate his laziness and quite frankly he'd struggle to unlock these defences who are nearly as tight as the Italian defences during the 80s. Rooney on the other hand...
Even a dancing bear would have won trophies with us at the time.
Yeah I agree but we won the CL and Berbatov was our best scorer (including a hat trick against Liverpool) wasnt he?
Go look at how many games he played in those years before disrespecting him. I can grant underwhelming because of how great we were and our standards at the time but in no way was Berbatov a flop.
I think we won the CL before Berbatov came (ie with two hardworking beasts upfront). We did reach 2 CL finals with Berbatov though although if my memory serves me right his CL goalscoring record was shocking (5 goals in 25 matches according to transfermarkt)