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Kinda deserved but it will feck up City more. Another loss to Chelsea and the league will be pretty much done.
 

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Kinda deserved but it will feck up City more. Another loss to Chelsea and the league will be pretty much done.
I also think so, mainly because this season Bernardo's has been providing consistent performances carrying the team.
 

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I also think so, mainly because this season Bernardo's has been providing consistent performances carrying the team.
He didn't yet reach the heights of last season to be fair, although his energy (and finesse!) in big games is a big feat anyway.
 

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He didn't yet reach the heights of last season to be fair, although his energy (and finesse!) in big games is a big feat anyway.
That counts for city squad as a whole. De Bruyne himself is not offering the same end product either. Must be hard to motivate players to defend a title who gave so much work to conquer, though.
 

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I just saw the cartoon character Silva posted for the first time - what an ugly little racist stereotype. It looks similar to typical racist cartoons of black people that used to be common in many countries.

Where does this character come from? I am aware that in Brazil, for example, with its proportion of African descent people and very different culture, such a character might be regarded as nothing more than a mascot. However, if you are a professional footballer from whatever country in the Premier League, you should be aware that comparing your team mate with such a cartoon on twitter is likely to bring condemnation.

Had Silva put the Black Panther super hero character that would have been different but I think the politically correct might have a probem with it. And is Silva actually as friendly with Mendy as he claims? That was put forward as the reason for his tweet.
 
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I just saw the cartoon character Silva posted for the first time - what an ugly little racist stereotype. It looks similar to typical racist cartoons of black people that used to be common in many countries.

Where does this character come from? I am aware that in Brazil, for example, with its proportion of African descent people and very different culture, such a character might be regarded as nothing more than a mascot. However, if you are a professional footballer from whatever country in the Premier League, you should be aware that comparing your team mate with such a cartoon on twitter is likely to bring condemnation.

Had Silva put the Black Panther super hero character that would have been different but I think the politically correct might have a probem with it. And is Silva actually as friendly with Mendy as he claims? That was put forward as the reason for his tweet.
It's the logo for Spanish confectionery brand Conguitos, whose products are readily available on supermarket shelves all over Spain and Portugal. It's not like he randomly pulled out a pic to cause offence to his mate Mendy (and yes, they are good mates). This will be something he's familiar with and has grown up with so there was no malice intended, but yes, there's no denying it lends itself to a racial stereotype. I heard a previous incarnation of the character showed it holding a spear (that was before Bernardo Silva was born by the way). What I find surprising is, with these stereotypes in mind, how the company is still allowed in the present day to display the logo despite being based in a Western European nation. While Silva was somewhat foolish to post that tweet in the public domain, and is now fully aware of it's negative connotations, the logo continues to be seen in public all over the Iberian peninsula with no comeback on the company themselves.
 

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That counts for city squad as a whole. De Bruyne himself is not offering the same end product either. Must be hard to motivate players to defend a title who gave so much work to conquer, though.
Ahhh, Id have to disagree a bit on this one. According to fantasy manager KDB has 10 assists and 2 goals in the league, which is unheard of in 13 games.. he's has had some wild moments here and there, albeit his last couple of games haven't had the same average endproduct, but if he keep that assist-rate up he must be breaking some sort of record
 

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It's the logo for Spanish confectionery brand Conguitos, whose products are readily available on supermarket shelves all over Spain and Portugal. It's not like he randomly pulled out a pic to cause offence to his mate Mendy (and yes, they are good mates). This will be something he's familiar with and has grown up with so there was no malice intended, but yes, there's no denying it lends itself to a racial stereotype. I heard a previous incarnation of the character showed it holding a spear (that was before Bernardo Silva was born by the way). What I find surprising is, with these stereotypes in mind, how the company is still allowed in the present day to display the logo despite being based in a Western European nation. While Silva was somewhat foolish to post that tweet in the public domain, and is now fully aware of it's negative connotations, the logo continues to be seen in public all over the Iberian peninsula with no comeback on the company themselves.
Thanks very much for your reply - I've just seen it - and its information plus context.

Japan has an iceblock and I forget its name but until about 6 years ago I think, the character with the big mouth etc eating the iceblock on the wrapper was clearly a racist caricature of an African person.

However, the company decided it indeed was inappropriate although I am not sure if they acknowledged it was a racist stereotype as the Japanese tend to excuse this kind of thing by saying they didn't know as there is 'No racism in Japan, we are all Japanese and there have been no black people in Japan until recently.'

In the recent past that never stopped them doing blackface under the pretext of Eddie Murphy skits and other excuses on 'comedy' shows and just a couple of years ago there was a disgraceful cartoon in a newspaper showing an old Japanese woman sitting on a train surrounded by foreigners of different skin hues - the fact the Japanese woman was shown as being intimidated simply by the fact of sitting near foreigners gives a glimpse into the supposedly 'non racist' Japanese society.

However, the H and M ad a couple of years ago with the boy of African ethnicity wearing that t shirt linking him with a monkey was created by a company in a western country with a multi-cultural society. Likewise a cartoon in a newspaper depicting an African man with a bone through his nose and looking like a racist stereotype from the 19th century was unashamedly published in a Northern European country, it may have been Denmark, around 8 years ago.
 

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Anyone else think he's been really underwhelming this season, ever since that Mendy incident?
For sure, in and out of the team too. He's been ok but not near his standard of last season. Think he'd probably do better if he got a consistent run of games but Mahrez has passed him in the rw pecking order and its looking for all intents and purposes Foden might be ahead of him in the no.8 spot.
 

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For sure, in and out of the team too. He's been ok but not near his standard of last season. Think he'd probably do better if he got a consistent run of games but Mahrez has passed him in the rw pecking order and its looking for all intents and purposes Foden might be ahead of him in the no.8 spot.
Wasn't he a part of the 3 man KDB-Silva-Fernandinho midfield for a period of time, or am I remembering that wrong?
 

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Wasn't he a part of the 3 man KDB-Silva-Fernandinho midfield for a period of time, or am I remembering that wrong?
Yup he looked like he might make that his own at times last season. This season that spot has been mostly Gundogans.
I think in a way he's guilty of his versatility since he arrived, he's played both wings, CM and up front (as a false 9) at times.
 

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Some players are bound to suffer with rotation and jumping in and out of the team. I think he would be far better at a club where he is allowed to play week in, week out in a consistent position and role.
 
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Huge fan of him but he's had a rough season. Thought he was playing like a top 10 player in the world in that three man midfield last season, crazy engine for such a creative and technical player. Seems like he's played on the wing a lot more this year for whatever reason, I'm guessing partly because Sane's been out.
 

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Never thought he was all that tbh, even at Monaco. While very few players can match him technically, there's not much else that's elite in his game.
 

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Yup he looked like he might make that his own at times last season. This season that spot has been mostly Gundogans.
I think in a way he's guilty of his versatility since he arrived, he's played both wings, CM and up front (as a false 9) at times.
B.Silva has already been played more as a RW though at City. Last season in the bigger games when Sane was sitting out, it was Sterling and Silva on opposing wings.
 

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Still a class player who I'm sure will be back to his best next season
 

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B.Silva has already been played more as a RW though at City. Last season in the bigger games when Sane was sitting out, it was Sterling and Silva on opposing wings.
Yup but he's been denied that role by Mahrez this season who seems to be Pep's first choice.
 

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Yup but he's been denied that role by Mahrez this season who seems to be Pep's first choice.
Yea I understand that, though surprised given how good Bernardo was. But it just in reference to some saying that he was playing in central midfield, I think his main role has been as a RW.
 

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Yea I understand that, though surprised given how good Bernardo was. But it just in reference to some saying that he was playing in central midfield, I think his main role has been as a RW.
He's played RW most, I think the other poster was referring to the spell where he played in the middle with KDB and Fernandinho when David Silva was for a run of 5 or 6 games last season. He played very well and people were saying 1 Silva will replace the other.
 

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Needs to leave City as soon as possible, what a waste of a great talent.

With De Bruyne not injured anymore he'll simply not get enough time in his best position. On the right wing Mahrez is clearly the better player too.
 

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Needs to leave City as soon as possible, what a waste of a great talent.

With De Bruyne not injured anymore he'll simply not get enough time in his best position. On the right wing Mahrez is clearly the better player too.
Maybe he is just overrated?
 

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Just a bad patch, he is a class player, will definitely rediscover his form either at city or anywhere else next season.
 

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Maybe he is just overrated?
He is. Was good at Monaco but usually dissapeared after 60-70 mins then struggled for most part of his first season at City. Yeah, was amazing in 18/19 but then this season returned to his previous level and that was even before his Twitter activity. Doesn't help that Pep's obsessed with Gundogan as a 8 and never plays Bernardo - De Bruyne in midfield because possession, possession ,possession.
 

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If I was him, I'd cut a leg off so I became superslow, than start running away from tackles any shirking anything other than passing sideways vs any semi competent team. Will make him a shoe in for the Gundogan role.

He should be rightly furious about his game time at the end of this season.
 

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If I was him, I'd cut a leg off so I became superslow, than start running away from tackles any shirking anything other than passing sideways vs any semi competent team. Will make him a shoe in for the Gundogan role.

He should be rightly furious about his game time at the end of this season.
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Needs to leave City as soon as possible, what a waste of a great talent.

With De Bruyne not injured anymore he'll simply not get enough time in his best position. On the right wing Mahrez is clearly the better player too.
I still think Bernardo is great as a RW, he’s just had a poor season by his standards even when he’s played in the middle. Often anonymous and underwhelming rather than actively bad. I think he’ll bounce back next season but whether he’ll ht the heights of 2018/19 again is a different question.
 

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Bad this season, but he is a great player. Last year, he was a monster. Guy would run for 90 minutes and influence games offensively consistently. But people have short memories. You are just as good as your last 2 months these days.
 

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He is. Was good at Monaco but usually dissapeared after 60-70 mins then struggled for most part of his first season at City. Yeah, was amazing in 18/19 but then this season returned to his previous level and that was even before his Twitter activity. Doesn't help that Pep's obsessed with Gundogan as a 8 and never plays Bernardo - De Bruyne in midfield because possession, possession ,possession.
That part is totally wrong, he was in fact the one player that would affect games late on a regular basis.
 

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If I was him, I'd cut a leg off so I became superslow, than start running away from tackles any shirking anything other than passing sideways vs any semi competent team. Will make him a shoe in for the Gundogan role.

He should be rightly furious about his game time at the end of this season.
I know you’re joking but I’ve never liked this scapegoating of Gundogan by City fans. He was immense v Madrid but got little praise, and yesterday he was hardly the worst of our issues. He’s an easy target to avoid asking more difficult questions, such as is Laporte as good as we think he is?
 

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That part is totally wrong, he was in fact the one player that would affect games late on a regular basis.
I think he’s referring to Bernardo in his first season at City there, not Monaco, although the wording’s ambiguous.
 

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I think he’s referring to Bernardo in his first season at City there, not Monaco, although the wording’s ambiguous.
I don't think he did, he followed by saying "then struggled for the most part of his first season for City".