Spoony
The People's President
I think Gullit, MVB and Rijkaard's Milan edges it.
Agreed, always felt that we would get to another and rectify the wrongs of the previous two, but its been 10 years now...Can only talk from the 90's onwards but Peps Barca just seemed inevitable. Every match felt like a 5-0 + score line and seeing them drop points was a genuine shock.
I've never seen or felt United to be so helpless in a final before.
For me too. There was no weak point, every player in every position was world class, and they still managed to be better than the sum of their parts.I think Gullit, MVB and Rijkaard's Milan edges it.
Lies. I'm sure I had it on good authority that last year's Liverpool would dominate world football for the next few years.I have it on good Caf-authority it’s the current Chelsea team... ffs
Yeah, as much as I wish it wasn't the case cause I don't like how effective it was, Pep's Barca revolutionised the game. Moreso than any other modern equivalent.
We were very good in 2009, and looked like children out there. Giggs, Scholes, Rio - very experienced, world class players simply had no idea what to do about the sheer technical brilliance on display. Plus that team literally won it all, a few times.
Their domination over us plays it's part in our minds but I think it's more than that. The sheer quality of their football and control over football matches was something else. It was painful to watch as someone who wanted them to lose. Never seen anything like it.I think Pep's Barca will always win on a United forum because of how easily they beat us.
I do think Zidane's Real should be in the conversation and they often suffer from the unfair 'anyone could win with Ronaldo' argument which is often ignored re Pep's Barca being built around Messi. Winning 3 CLs on the bounce is insane, plus domestic cups and a LL.
Might be controversial but I'd say Enrique's Barca if we're just taking a single season. He inherited most of Pep's Barca, plus Neymar and Alba then added peak Suarez to form MSN. That front three were the best I have ever seen.
No white text?Liverpool under Klopp sadly. Just edge it from Mourinhos first Chelsea side.
As long as it’s not Ajax I’m fine with it.
They are one of the greatest the 70’s side. 90’s though great don’t belong in this conversation.Well....some say it's Ajax 70s. They were great in the mid 90s too.
True but they were great to watch.90’s though great don’t belong in this conversation.
Not true, Milan had to field many no name player due to the 3 foreign player restriction. Players who had nothing special were starting for them, think about Colombo or Tassotti, those guys weren't considered good enough to make the italian national team, while 2009 had an all time great talent at nearly every single position, seriously where is the weak part out of Abidal, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Touré, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Messi... ?For me too. There was no weak point, every player in every position was world class, and they still managed to be better than the sum of their parts.
Barcelona for their brilliance were led by a handful of superstars. There were weaker players in that side.
Good shout!I think Gullit, MVB and Rijkaard's Milan edges it.
Valdes? Henry was 31 and nowhere near his Arsenal peak. Remember we are talking on the scale of best ever.Not true, Milan had to field many no name player due to the 3 foreign player restriction. Players who had nothing special were starting for them, think about Colombo or Tassotti, those guys weren't considered good enough to make the italian national team, while 2009 had an all time great talent at nearly every single position, seriously where is the weak part out of Abidal, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Touré, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Messi... ?
Overall if you want to have this kind of comparisons it is always going to favor the post Bosman teams, because the rules let them stack as many talent as possible.
Not true, Milan had to field many no name player due to the 3 foreign player restriction. Players who had nothing special were starting for them, think about Colombo or Tassotti, those guys weren't considered good enough to make the italian national team, while 2009 had an all time great talent at nearly every single position, seriously where is the weak part out of Abidal, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Touré, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Messi... ?
Overall if you want to have this kind of comparisons it is always going to favor the post Bosman teams, because the rules let them stack as many talent as possible.
Good shout!
Bayern in the 70s were starting Sepp Maier, Beckenbauer, Schwarzenbeck, Roth, Rummenigge, Hoeness and Gerd Müller amongst others.
Liverpool under Klopp sadly. Just edge it from Mourinhos first Chelsea side.
Was looking for the Poch's Spurs white text on that one as well
This is either the best WUM or the worst football post I've seen.Liverpool under Klopp sadly. Just edge it from Mourinhos first Chelsea side.