Not that I think he is a racist, he likely isn't (I don't know they guy), however what has the bolded part got to do with anything, people really need to drop these kind of things as a defence.
"Blackface" Discussion
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Social media turns everything into a big deal and encourages lynch mob mentality, so yeah, I'd consider that a bigger issue.
Many black people say they find it offensive and racist. White people can't really say it isn't, can they?
Well then your priorities are wrong.
It's not a defense, if you're a racist you don't hang out with black people and be best friends with two black guys, if people want to brand him ignorant then sure, but the racist stuff is just daft.
Exactly.
Oh jesus. You told me to google something I was unaware of in the title of the thread. at the time it wasn't in the title of course.You now tell me you don't know the term smart arse? Oh the ironing....
Although I know you don't agree with it, I believe racism is the intent not in the reception. That doesn't make it any less offensive however, so I suppose its just semantics really. We can both agree he's a bellend though!
This has been a big deal for almost a century.
Also, interesting use of the term ‘lynch mob’ given the context
No, I think having a platform for a bunch of faceless people to harrass and attack someone is a bigger issue than a guy painting his face black for a fancy dress party.
I've had some good friends do some racist shit. Them being nice to me for years doesn't give them permission to disrespect a whole race.
Surely the term 'black culture' is racist in itself. I can think of 1 billion black people that have no knowledge of 'black culture' and have their own cultures; because black people are very diverse.
But you just said that it's up to black people to decide what is offensive and racist. Was their some sort of meeting or vote to decide?
I don't know about the harassing part. It's just that he made a really stupid thing.
I'll take your word for it. Quite surprising that it isn't common knowledge as I originally thought.
Donald Trump has black friends.
Bad idea by Griezmann. Never going to get a free pass for race-facing unless you're a famous American comedian slapping on the white to play a news anchor
I'm not saying it isn't offensive, I believe it's incredibly offensive. Perhaps I need to clarify: I don't believe there is any racist intent, not that there are no racist connotations to his actions.
As a recipient of the act, quite honestly whether your intentions are not to cause offence doesn’t necessarily mean that no offence can be caused. Semantics doesn’t even come close.
So no, we don’t agree and never will on that basis.
Interesting that you find the term black culture racist, but don’t deem blacking up as racist. You clearly have no idea what black culture is.
You’re either wilfully ignorant, a wum or both.
What you said to me isn’t even worth me wasting my time to reply to.
People are quick to call others racist, especially in the United States and England it's in fashion to see racism, sexism, etc. behind every tree. Look, it's probably not a great idea to dress up like that, but at the same time for christ's sake do people like to get mad about anything, does it make one feel better? I am sure every one of those calling Griezmann things now have been racist themselves in some sort of way in their lifetime.
Griezmann and a lot of African-French are good buddies. His best friend Pogba will defend Antoine, I am sure.
Griezmann and a lot of African-French are good buddies. His best friend Pogba will defend Antoine, I am sure.
I doubt he even knows what blackface is? He's gone as an NBA player for feck's sake. Do we think he's posting this to explicitly show the world that he's racist or something?
While I agree that he's unlikely to be racist and was unaware of the connotations, Roy Moore's wife tried that approach.
I wonder if he's encountered any heat at the party he is at, he seemed unaware it was going to get such a response.
People are branding him a racist and slandering him over this, I'd call that harrassment for what is clearly just a bad piece of judgment.
You got to laugh at the European excuse. You'd have hoped whilst standing in front of a mirror and painting his face black, he'd have thought "isn't this a bit weird?!"
What's "black culture"?
Jesus Christ. You dont get it do you?
Him having black friends doesn't absolve him of guilt of doing a daft, ignorant thing or being ignorant.
Mad about anything? You don't know the history behind it, do you?
I don't know if Griezmann is a racist. I do know that he shouldn't have done it, and if it was an error stemming from naivety and lack of knowledge, then an apology from him is a necessary response. He should now know better, and hopefully so do his twitter followers.
Was thinking exactly this when I seen it.But if his favourite basketball player is black, and he wants to go out in fancy dress as him, then what's wrong with colouring his face so he looks more like said basketball player???? That's kind of the point of fancy dress...
You tell us what you think he though when doing it then? Do you think he thought is was weird and went through with it anyway?
He doesn'tr have any friends, just various people he uses and who like the money he can make them.
That guy has a track record of being a piece of shit though, this is clearly just a guy making a bad judgment call, likely through living in a fame bubble.
Exactly this. And these faceless people are quick to go into full hysteria mode. But, I am sure every single one of them is no purist themselves and have been guilty of racism themselves.
So fecking ignorant and dumb it's beyond belief.
Another look at me twatt that needs a reality check.
Another look at me twatt that needs a reality check.
No. The comment I replied to said he obviously knew about blackface because there would be no reason to dress up like that. My point was a reason to dress up like that is most basketball players are black and it’s simply dressing to match the public's perception of what basketball players looks like. I don’t think it’s a good reason and it’s clearly a dumb thing to do.
people get so defensive when their ignorance is pointed out
If I whitened up my body fancy dressed as C Ronaldo would it be classed racist?
I'm sure there will be a grovelling video out there by tomorrow morning.
People will soon forget this. For example, didn't prince Harry dress up as a Nazi once?
Why would you whiten your face to look like Ronaldo? A tin of orange paint would be more accurate
Nah. Worked for the Wayans Bros and Dave Chappelle.
Awhile ago, the daily show put up this video.
Hopefully, It is fine to copy this link here and I don't know how to embed it.
For those who want to see why this is a big issue,
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ltlgc...-not-a-costume?xrs=synd_twitter_102717_tds_45
Hopefully, It is fine to copy this link here and I don't know how to embed it.
For those who want to see why this is a big issue,
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ltlgc...-not-a-costume?xrs=synd_twitter_102717_tds_45