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limerickcitykid

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And like clockwork it happens exactly as I said it would. Carbon copy of the view of Varela. A few decent performances with energy and he's suddenly the greatest thing since slice bread and a guaranteed starter for 10 years because he isn't Ashley Young.

Come up against a side who take advantage of his erratic play and now he's suddenly a "useless cretin."

Like clockwork, this place is nothing more than a cesspool these days.
 

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A reminder that Ed briefed to the media that we're no longer in for a LB because of the emergence of Williams. The guy is a fecking clown who hasn't got a clue. Williams is a good player but should be eased in as 2nd choice behind Shaw for now.
Which is exactly the plan I'm sure.
 

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A reminder that Ed briefed to the media that we're no longer in for a LB because of the emergence of Williams. The guy is a fecking clown who hasn't got a clue. Williams is a good player but should be eased in as 2nd choice behind Shaw for now.
Did he though or was it just the daily mail making up a story because they can. They used the fact Shaw played in Europe to get minutes under his belt as he returns to fitness as an excuse to make up a bull shit story.

Kid had another rough game, only to be expected. He looks out of his depth and really doesn’t look comfortable on the left but hopefully he shakes it off and can be a useful member of the squad.
 

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He's actually quite lucky El ghazi went off early or he would have had an even worse performance.

He's got some talent but from what I've seen so far he just can't defend and we can't afford to carry a poor and inexperienced defender in our backline.
 

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He's actually quite lucky El ghazi went off early or he would have had an even worse performance.

He's got some talent but from what I've seen so far he just can't defend and we can't afford to carry a poor and inexperienced defender in our backline.
Yeah he skipped past him like he was nothing in the build up to Grealish’s first.
 

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He's promising that's what he is. Had some great games but we just can't expect he won't make any mistakes ever. He should be eased in. I like him and think he'll be great for us but not immediately.
 

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I don’t think this match is an indictment of him as a player and like others have said the reactions are neck-breaking.

We can’t one week call him the greatest thing that’s come through the academy and a guaranteed starter for years, then the next call him useless and we should get rid.

End of the day he’s a youth prospect and they ALWAYS have erratic consistency. Some weeks he’ll look amazing, other weeks he’ll make mistakes galore. It doesn’t matter how good they are; it’s the nature of young players breaking through. See Ronaldo, and more recently De Ligt.

And bad performances can define young players like him, after the initial hype he has a dose of reality of the level required in the league and now he needs the strength of character to accept that and continue to develop and not to just capitulate. He is playing at levels higher than what he has spent his career at, coming through academy’s there’s a steady gradual raise and then when you hit the first team it’s a massive step.

Williams is not the best thing since sliced bread. Nor is he a useless cretin. He’s an exciting youth prospect until further notice and we as fans should realise that and not expect the world. Back him and see him develop, if he continues to step up great, if he falls short then we sell him and move on.

We can still criticise him, talk about his performances, praise him, whatever. But we need to do so with some sensibility and a dose of reality.
 

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He’s not a useless cretin of course, but I still don’t think he’s put together a full good game. That’s not to say he can’t in the future but he’s clearly not ready and not at the level of premier league players. He’s had two awful games in a row and I think his games before that were bad too. I haven’t seen much to know what people think is amazing or even very good.
 

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We can’t one week call him the greatest thing that’s come through the academy and a guaranteed starter for years, then the next call him useless and we should get rid.
Why do people always say things like this. It’s probably not people breaking their necks with whiplash. You probably just have two groups of people with two different opinions and just so happens that since the Chelsea game he’s not been very good therefore one group is louder than the other.
 

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He's very rash. A guaranteed yellow a game.

Needs taking back out for a bit.
 

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He has been really bad in the last two games. I think people have been going over the top with the praise with some calling him 'brilliant'. He really hasn't been.

Honestly, he has been worse than Young. It is just people don't want to see it with youth players for some reason.
 

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He’s a typical youngster, he’s up and down. He was poor last week but his goal was great and sparked recovery. He’s a great prospect and hopefully becomes our full back over the next few years but he will be very inconsistent this year so no point getting on his back about it
 

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I can take mistakes like that from a kid like Williams, overall had a bad game but as long as he learns from it it’s fine.
 

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He's not ready. Should only start vs AZ and Colchester over the next couple of weeks.
 

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Someone made a very harsh comment in the matchday thread. He is young and of course making a tonne of mistakes. One lead to a goal, that's life. Ultimately, Ole and the staff have to manage the guy well.
 

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Honestly, he has been worse than Young. It is just people don't want to see it with youth players for some reason.
Agreed. It was the same last year with Dalot, unfortunately Young has been better than both.
 

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A reminder that Ed briefed to the media that we're no longer in for a LB because of the emergence of Williams. The guy is a fecking clown who hasn't got a clue. Williams is a good player but should be eased in as 2nd choice behind Shaw for now.
When did he brief the media?
 

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And like clockwork it happens exactly as I said it would. Carbon copy of the view of Varela. A few decent performances with energy and he's suddenly the greatest thing since slice bread and a guaranteed starter for 10 years because he isn't Ashley Young.

Come up against a side who take advantage of his erratic play and now he's suddenly a "useless cretin."

Like clockwork, this place is nothing more than a cesspool these days.
Aye. Pretty much
 

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Whatever. Its a season where we need to develop a new pack anyways. He'll learn from his mistakes. Hope he gets more games
 

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Whatever. Its a season where we need to develop a new pack anyways. He'll learn from his mistakes. Hope he gets more games
Needs to be introduced slowly, sadly we've had to throw him in the deep end because Shaw's completely unreliable and Young's shit.
 

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I'm sorry but he's clearly not ready. Been a liability these past two games, like extremely out of his depth.

Is exposing him like that helps with his grow?
 

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I'm sorry but he's clearly not ready. Been a liability these past two games, like extremely out of his depth.

Is exposing him like that helps with his grow?
Yes. Some players pick up the pace very quickly after initially having pretty bad games. He strikes me as a quick developer. Theres numerous examples of players like that who just needs a season at the level to grow. In my view Williams has access to every attribute needed, he just needs the experience at this level. By the end of the season we'll all have a different view of him imo.
 

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i am all for kids but just thinking back.. we gave the goal to Arsenal and Villa because of the inexperienced kids.. :(
 

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He's a young player who like many other lads his age blows hot and cold against experienced opposition, and has looked ropey defensively in a few matches recently. I'd still have him in the squad ahead of Young; I don't think the senior man would get us any more points so we might as well come out of this shit year with Williams having gained some vital first team experience.
 

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And like clockwork it happens exactly as I said it would. Carbon copy of the view of Varela. A few decent performances with energy and he's suddenly the greatest thing since slice bread and a guaranteed starter for 10 years because he isn't Ashley Young.

Come up against a side who take advantage of his erratic play and now he's suddenly a "useless cretin."

Like clockwork, this place is nothing more than a cesspool these days.
the match day thread is truly awful at times but that comment was a new low.
 

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I don't know how his development will go on. Decent prospect but with every single chance to end up exactly as CBJ if anyone still remembers him, and he was considered a good prospect too with good crossing in him. For now it will be ridiculous if the reports of us not getting a LB because of his emergence are proven to be true. He should be getting games from the bench behind a better fullback.

I'm sure Shaw will be back to main lineup in no time if Williams keeps on like the previous 2 games. Not like Shaw himself is great or anything anyway.
 

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He was poor defensively at the start and I think it was El Ghazi who beat him couple of times very easily. Later he did well.

I think Shaw will start next game, him coming on was sort of made it obvious as he was lacking match fitness. I think vs Spurs and City it will be Shaw. For cup games it will be Williams.
 

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He was poor defensively at the start and I think it was El Ghazi who beat him couple of times very easily. Later he did well.

I think Shaw will start next game, him coming on was sort of made it obvious as he was lacking match fitness. I think vs Spurs and City it will be Shaw. For cup games it will be Williams.
I can go with that.

Too many on here ready to throw kids to the lions but it's the lack of quality and depth in the whole squad that has led to this.

That's the fault of the board not the kids
 

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He was poor defensively at the start and I think it was El Ghazi who beat him couple of times very easily. Later he did well.

I think Shaw will start next game, him coming on was sort of made it obvious as he was lacking match fitness. I think vs Spurs and City it will be Shaw. For cup games it will be Williams.
Only saw the highlights for this game so can't comment on most of it but he also played Mings onside for the goal, he was a long way behind the defensive line getting out too. He made another schoolboy error for Sheff United's third when he was guilty of ball watching whilst his man got free and scored the third. He is costing us at the moment so I don't think the idea of him being in front of Shaw is a good one.
 

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Only saw the highlights for this game so can't comment on most of it but he also played Mings onside for the goal, he was a long way behind the defensive line getting out too. He made another schoolboy error for Sheff United's third when he was guilty of ball watching whilst his man got free and scored the third. He is costing us at the moment so I don't think the idea of him being in front of Shaw is a good one.
Yeah forgot about the Mings goal, he was very lazy and something that's unacceptable. He shouldn't be infront of Shaw, he should be rotated in cup games.
 

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For me he was always going to be second choice behind Shaw, but then I like and rate Shaw unlike most on here.
 

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He is good, he has ayed 10 professional games he will not be consistent until another year. Shaq should be the first team but do not write this boy off because he has a couple of bad games when the whole team was pathetic. No wonder Ole does not play youth because fans satalite every move.
 

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The perfect thread to show why youth players - specially at United - have to be eased in. People seem to forget that he's an absolute novice at this level and should be expected to be inconsistent. Does anyone remember how Ronaldo was when he came in? Or how Fergie introduced him far more gradually than the fans (me included at that time) wanted? The world rates Fergie as one of the best ever at managing youth - and his way was the "slowly-slowly" one - barring Rooney, who was an absolute freak of nature at 16!

Williams may prove to not have it - just as easily as he could prove to be a world-class player. There is potential there, as in a lot of kids, but potential alone is no guarantee of success at this level. The only thing that is absolutely certain though is that weekly knee-jerk reactions to his last performance will not help him...or the blood pressure.
 
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Good game going forward and defensively.