Yet if you take those elements away you are still left with a lot more historical accuracy than in Braveheart - where the main character was in fact a real figure where almost nothing was true to actual events. Not to mention the shameful way they portrayed Robert the Bruce. The portrayal of life and war in Gladiator by almost all accounts seems way more accurate as well.
Film Braveheart or Gladiator
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Spartacus is great, so is Julius Caesar with Marlon Brando playing Mark Antony.
When it comes to Roman history TVs are better, both the BBC’s I, Claudius as well as HBO’s Rome are excellent watch.
Ben Hur (the original) definitely deserves a mention as well in that case, or even The Ten Commandments.
I, Claudius in some ways should go down as one of the most underrated TV shows of all time, and Rome could have been one of the greatest if only it had continued longer.
Gladiator, because half the fuds where I live think Braveheart is a Call to Arms. Great film, mind.
How is it more accurate? Even if Mel Gibson was made out to be a demigod and English occupation of Scotland was exaggerated to decades (actually more like a few years), the rough timeline of events were still accurate, Wallace did rebel, did win a great victory, he did lead an incursion into English territories(nowhere near Leeds, mind), before being defeated, captured and executed, and Scotland did win independence after his death.
Compare that to Gladiator, Maximus didn’t exist, there was no question over Commodus’s succession, there was no takeover by the Senate after his death, instead the Roman world descended into chaos with the Crisis of the Third Century. It was a well made film with a clear and engaging narrative but the historicity is bungled badly.
That's not fair. The Kingdom of Heaven director's cut is one of the best films ever.
Gladiator by far because of Braveheart's shitty accent.
As in, the 1960’s Spartacus film? Never seen it. Have watched season 1 of Rome and really enjoyed it. I also liked the more recent Spartacus TV show but it was a bit of a guilty pleasure.
Both Gladiator and Braveheart are excellent films and great entertainment.
The last fight between Balian and Guy felt really superficial.
The biggest problem with that film is that Balian was too much of a Mary Sue, the dude despite a lowborn bastard birth (which in Middle Age Europe means you are more likely than not to be illiterate) was a master at siege warfare, agriculture and swordmanship, the last of which he mastered in about 2 sessions.
It redeemed Eva Green, mind, she was very good in that film but her character got mishandled terribly by the theatrical cut.
Freedom!
It's amazing how those extra 45 minutes turned such a thoroughly average film into a brilliant one.
Braveheart is a decent movie that hasn't aged well whilst Gladiator is as good as it was the day it was released -- man was it fecking good!
Set up a poll? I'd go for Gladiator. It has the better acting, directing, score, and cinematography. Braveheart is obviously a good film but doesn't compare.
Gladiator for me. Better plot and Villain. But I like the overall characters more in Braveheart.
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By your logic then only Braveheart can be historically inaccurate because it's based on real events, whereas, as you pointed out, Gladiator was not.
I like both films but Phoenix's hackneyed role was a waste of his talent, IMO.
Nah the accents in Gladiator were way worse. None of the main cast sounded remotely Spanish or Italian.
At least Mel made an effort to sound Scottish.
If we’re judging it by quality of accents then surely it’s Kevin Costner’s Robin Hood for the win.
Bahahaha
I know you re joking. One good thing about that movie was Clannad's soundtrack imho.
Plus that fine fellow from Die Hard with the wonderful voice who recently passed as the Sheriff of Nottingham.Bahahaha
One good thing about that movie was Clannad's soundtrack imho.
Both films had villains that were more interesting than the protagonists. I loved the insecurity and creepiness of Commodus. I know Gladiator isn't exactly historically accurate but I can't help wonder how this great philosopher emperor Marcus Aurellius could have made such a mistake with his son.
It's like choosing between the Champions League or SPL.
Yeah that's the point. In Gladiator, they didn't even try so accent was kinda irrelevant. It wasn't really necessary anyway. In Braveheart, it was just a tad offputting.
I prefer Rob Roy. Tim Roth is unreal in that movie.Braveheart vs Rob Roy?
I would pick Gladiator between the two.
God knows why they chopped and screwed so much for the theatrical release. Orlando Bloom being dwarfed by the Titan level cast didn’t help either.
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On topic, Gladiator. It just has a higher level of quality to it in near enough every facet.
Gladiator - better production, score, direction and acting. I love watching it, but Braveheart was special too.
To be honest mate I was taking the piss.
To go authentic in Gladiator they would have had to get the actors to speak in Latin and subtitle it. I think we can all agree it wouldn’t have been as good or well received had they done so.
Ha fair enough. That's what I meant though.
What don't you understand? Gladiator is easily the better film. By Braveheart is close behind
I just don't understand how something can be clearly better than another when the other is close behind. It implies that's it's farther behind.
Meh, I reckon Braveheart is more entertaining. Besides, Gladiator is really only memorable for Maximus's famous quote:
Maxy said:
Braveheart.
Both shit
Gladiator is the only one that I can remember clearly, so I'll have to say Braveheart.