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SteveJ

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Jesus, it's not difficult to work out that one is fake - it's Guy Ritchie meets The Young Ones, ffs.
 

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That number 10 leaks account will be suspended in no time if it's posting personal phone numbers surely?

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Latest has George Galloway seemingly going cap in hand to Banks for hand outs. Desperate stuff.
 
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Boris Johnson government will not carry out any economic impact assessment of his Brexit deal, officials admit

No analysis of the likely economic damage from Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal will be carried out, the government has admitted.

Ministers have dropped plans to publish a Treasury assessment, amid estimates of a hit to the UK economy of anything between £70bn and £130bn, leaving people thousands of pounds worse off.


The stance was attacked as “a dereliction of duty” by Julie Ward, a Labour MEP, who uncovered it after submitting a freedom of information request.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ssion-impact-assessment-economy-a9208536.html

Just Gerronwivvit!

 

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EU negotiator dismisses Johnson's post-Brexit trade deal claims

It will not be possible to negotiate a comprehensive trade deal in the 11-month transition period that would follow an exit from the bloc on 31 January, the EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier has told a private meeting of senior MEPs in Strasbourg.
The UK is due to leave the single market and customs union at the end of December 2020 under the terms of the withdrawal agreement. At that point, new arrangements – or none – will come into force. Any extension to the UK’s membership of the single market and customs union would need to be agreed before 1 July.
Barnier said that, if such an extension was not sought by the UK, negotiators would “need to focus on specific subjects” and that agreement on various issues, including the rights of British air carriers to operate as they do today, would have to wait until after 2020.
Barnier said the key areas on which the negotiators would work in the coming year would be trade in goods, data, fisheries, aviation, police and judicial cooperation.
The goal for the EU is to agree on “zero quotas, zero tariffs and zero dumping”, he said in a reference to the bloc’s determination to ensure that the UK signs up to a high degree of regulatory alignment to ensure British companies do not have a competitive advantage post-Brexit.
Barnier also told MEPs that the “toughest question” would be the EU’s insistence that free movement in goods comes as a package with the free movement of people. He added that the most “difficult outcome” for the EU would be a hung parliament as it would imperil ratification of the deal in Westminster.
The prime minister has claimed the UK can conclude a trade deal in time, though experts had already pointed out that such deal typically take years to negotiate and ratify.


We know it's impossible to do it in 11 months but you ain't heard nothing yet - Labour will do it in three, any advance on three, there at the back...
 

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We know it's impossible to do it in 11 months but you ain't heard nothing yet - Labour will do it in three, any advance on three, there at the back...
Isn't that due to the withdrawal agreement being much more closely aligned with the EU and as such a trade agreement being easier to sort out?
 

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Isn't that due to the withdrawal agreement being much more closely aligned with the EU and as such a trade agreement being easier to sort out?
No because firstly the Uk would have to leave first before trade negotiations start. If Labour want a Brexit in name only which Labour remain supporters think is what Corbyn means then Labour would have to accept freedom of movement unconditionally and be in the customs union, neither of which Corbyn is suggesting.
 

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What you said in your last sentence is precisely why this won't be a Brexit election, because just like you people won't be able to see the bigger picture and get beyond the issues currently facing them.

The Conservatives are in for a huge shock again not only because Labour policies will resonate strongly with what people need but because this time around they can't bring up the magic money tree without ditching their own "promises" of splash the cash policies.
I hope your post is true, but I just can’t see it.

Conservative manifesto policies lie. But they give people money.

The Labour manifesto is a horror show and has pathetically stupid policies in it that are attackable and rejectable.
 

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The harbor of Ghent in Belgium is planning a Brexit-parking, for up to 540 trucks and a new customs office. Crazy.
 

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Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has been recorded telling a private meeting that the EU would not be able to conclude a full trade negotiation with the EU by the end of next year, as Boris Johnson claims. As the Independent reports in its scoop, Barnier said:
It is unrealistic that a global negotiation can be done in 11 months, so we can’t do it all. We will do all we can to get what I call the ‘vital minimum’ to establish a relationship with the UK if that is the time scale.
Come on Michel, it's either 11 months or 3 months and Brexit will be sorted. You're not reading the script.
 

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Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has been recorded telling a private meeting that the EU would not be able to conclude a full trade negotiation with the EU by the end of next year, as Boris Johnson claims. As the Independent reports in its scoop, Barnier said:


Come on Michel, it's either 11 months or 3 months and Brexit will be sorted. You're not reading the script.
Why do you pretend to be dumb? The 3 months is a withdrawal agreement and a political declaration which outlines the basis for the future relationship. The 3 months refers to what Johnson has now not a full trade deal.

It will be closer to Europe with a customs union as minimum and even single market possibly but leaving the political institutions. That requires very little further negotiations as it’s effectively BRINO so it and can be implemented much much faster after the referendum even within 6 months should the country choose so.
 

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Why do you pretend to be dumb? The 3 months is a withdrawal agreement and a political declaration which outlines the basis for the future relationship. The 3 months refers to what Johnson has now not a full trade deal.

It will be closer to Europe with a customs union as minimum and even single market possibly but leaving the political institutions. That requires very little further negotiations as it’s effectively BRINO so it and can be implemented much much faster after the referendum even within 6 months should the country choose so.
Been through this dozens of times. How can you possibly believe this load of crap?