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T00lsh3d

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Was reading last night that one of the groups promising to ‘kick off’ today is the ‘Football Lads Alliance’.

They would apparently like to see democracy enacted. And will kick your fecking head in if it isn’t
 

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Was reading last night that one of the groups promising to ‘kick off’ today is the ‘Football Lads Alliance’.

They would apparently like to see democracy enacted. And will kick your fecking head in if it isn’t
. About 200 people joined a pro-Brexit demonstration organised by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance (DFLA) and clashed with the anti-Brexit group March for Change.
Dfla... Apparently
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...s-and-remainers-demonstrate-a4231296.html?amp
Tbf I'm surprised they are not all in the pub watching in-gur-land and warning about the dangers of muzlamic ray guns
 

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Was reading last night that one of the groups promising to ‘kick off’ today is the ‘Football Lads Alliance’.

They would apparently like to see democracy enacted. And will kick your fecking head in if it isn’t
I've read about those. They sound like a bunch a nice bunch of fellas. They (one of their leaders) want to run a pub in Tottenham and there's a council petition to prevent them, because the think it'll become a place for racist skinhead types to gather.
 

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I've read about those. They sound like a bunch a nice bunch of fellas. They (one of their leaders) want to run a pub in Tottenham and there's a council petition to prevent them, because the think it'll become a place for racist skinhead types to gather.
They will be up till the late hours debating the finer details of political and cultural theory. Before deciding to put their differences aside a glass some fuzzy-wuzzys instead
 

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Whilst it may be unacceptable in the current day, the way Johnson expresses himself is largely harmless. He is an archetype of privately educated men who speak this way.

The problem is he often strays into language that can easily be used against him eg: calling Muslim women wearing the burka as ‘letterboxes or bank robbers’ which I found quite funny, but is easily used against him.

His career is littered by such loose language, he can’t help himself. In the instance above, one can quickly suggest traits of misogyny; He will make many language gaffes on the election trail and it will cost him his premiership.
Yes, stirring up hate crimes and prejudice against against Muslim women is hilarious.

*rolls eyes*
 

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It was amusing to me because of the image it put in my head: of these women maurading as bank robbers; when in fact they choose to dress this way as an expression of their morals and purity.

Many Muslims found it funny. We can laugh at ourselves and not everything has to be a big deal. It’s no problem. From that context, I don’t think BJ meant it as Islamophobia, even though it can easily be presented as such. Hence my post.
Dunno mate, from someone in his position it can be seen as somehow it's all ok to make racist comments at Muslims, something that might seem harmless can still have consequences against minorities.
 

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Hopefully this is the start of many. Knives are out
 

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"Assault on decency and democracy". An "act of political vandalism":eek:

She'll be gone next election
 

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:eek: I do have to say that the Tories are quicker to jump ship from Boris than Republicans are for Trump.
 

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Might she stand for the brexit party?
I doubt it, she voted Remain didn't she?

Johnson and Rudd gone within a couple of days of each other. I could see Morgan resigning next. Unless this is the start of a series of resignations over the next few days.
 

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After her role in Windrush, the implementation of Universal Credit and going before a Commons committee to lie to MPs about removal targets, we've finally found Amber Rudd's red line. How the Boris led Tories treat Churchill's sprog's sprog.
 

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My mistake... Yes she did... Probably off to the libs / change UK then
The Times article above says she'll stand as an independent Conservative MP away from her current constituency.
 

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After her role in Windrush, the implementation of Universal Credit and going before a Commons committee to lie to MPs about removal targets, we've finally found Amber Rudd's red line. How the Boris led Tories treat Churchill's sprog's sprog.
Don't worry, I'm sure she'll have forgotten why she resigned and accepted another cabinet position by this time next week.
 

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I didn't think she'd do it, if its gone this far there's going to be several more. Potential new group of independents.

I spoke to my in laws today who are tory voters and hate Corbyn, well they told me they'll be voting Labour because Brexit will do worse damage than he could and Boris is no better. I hope that's a sentiment felt up and down the country
 

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My mistake... Yes she did... Probably off to the libs / change UK then
I fecking hope the Lib Dems don't take her. Liberals taking in someone who had a role in Windrush?

If Swinson acts too greedily with those independent conservatives, her party's traditional support will be eroded. Then it will really be, just Yellow Tories
 

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I fecking hope the Lib Dems don't take her. Liberals taking in someone who had a role in Windrush?

If Swinson acts too greedily with those independent conservatives, her party's traditional support will be eroded. Then it will really be, just Yellow Tories
They already are; although Rudd is probably a step too far even then.
 

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I mean, I'll be really glad if the Conservatives cease to exist but they'll just disseminate into other parties and sadly the Brexit Party in charge and Nige as PM seem more and more likely
 

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Even if all their one nation mps resign, what difference does it make? They’re going full Blukip for this election. It’s good publicity for their aims to lose these remain mps.
 

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Only for the Socialists that feel everyone right of their position is a Tory. And I do fecking hope Rudd is a step too far
Or for anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to anything Swinson says or does.

I actually think this is a huge problem for them going forward. Their voter base is largely left of centre but the party as a whole is further to the right. I can't see them holding on to younger, pro-Remain minded voters who have drifted towards them from Labour in their current guise.
 

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Even if all their one nation mps resign, what difference does it make? They’re going full Blukip for this election. It’s good publicity for their aims to lose these remain mps.
Possibly... Though there was a chunk of people who voted remain and voted conservatives and moving too far right might loose those voters to libs
There is always a difficulty going head to head with an existing MP locally as well and that might happen in 20 or so constituencys
 

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Or for anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to anything Swinson says or does.

I actually think this is a huge problem for them going forward. Their voter base is largely left of centre but the party as a whole is further to the right. I can't see them holding on to younger, pro-Remain minded voters who have drifted towards them from Labour in their current guise.
This is me. I was possibly going to vote Lib Dem in the next GE (if my local MP moves to a safer seat) but the more I see them hoovering up these Tory rebels with horrendous voting histories, the more I am put off. Jezza and McDonnell can't be too bad, can they..?