Paul the Wolf
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When does this start getting good?
When does this start getting good?
It's already good. Ignore the Project Fear crap and start waving those plastic flags wooooooooo!!!When does this start getting good?
Can you imagine if in 2016 before the Brexit vote the British public were told that there would be a hard border, policed, around Kent.Tweet
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'Border round Kent? fecking ridiculous project fear nonsense'Can you imagine if in 2016 before the Brexit vote the British public were told that there would be a hard border, policed, around Kent.
Would the "will of the people" have been the same?
it was never going to be anything other than the very worst of very very bad ideas. Ever.'Border round Kent? fecking ridiculous project fear nonsense'
Brexiteers won't admit it but the Remain campaigns biggest failing was underestimating just how stupid the whole enterprise was. The predictions of project fear look tame compared to the reality.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe, UK's richest person, moves to tax-free Monaco
Before he left for Monaco, Ratcliffe was the UK’s third-highest individual taxpayer, paying £110m to the exchequer in 2017-18, according to the Sunday Times tax list.
His decision to quit Britain came soon after he was knighted by the Queen for “services to business and investment”, and the UK voted to leave the European Union.
Him and Dyson are fecking cretins. Help sow this shit then piss off when reality hits.Remember all those Project Fear muppets saying that all the Brexit billionaires who threatened to move elsewhere if we stayed in the EU would move their money overseas anyway? Well.........shit.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...oves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile
Remember all those Project Fear muppets saying that all the Brexit billionaires who threatened to move elsewhere if we stayed in the EU would move their money overseas anyway? Well.........shit.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...oves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile
is there a graph that shows continued COVID 19 impact AND no deal Brexit cos that’s where we’re headed.
The party of law and order...
Brexit: Government plan gets MPs' final backing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54341534
"Could"But Labour, the Liberal Democrats, the SNP and the EU argue that - in allowing the government to undo parts of a treaty signed by the EU and UK - it could damage the country's international reputation and standing.
I know it’s a bit of fun but currently you could argue there are independent movements for Scotland, Wales, Norther Ireland, Yorkshire, Cornwall and now Kent. I vaguely remember London being talked about as well!Kexit: What would an independent Kent look like after Brexit as internal border announced
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/welcome-to-the-republic-of-kent-234343/
Kent online having some fun with the debacle.
No surprise that the headline on the Beeb site is the distraction piece about Boris "misspeaking" about North East covid restrictions.The party of law and order...
Brexit: Government plan gets MPs' final backing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54341534
London shows the absurdity of the likes of Scotland complaint that they didn’t vote for Brexit. Far bigger population, far bigger economy - but that’s democracy.I know it’s a bit of fun but currently you could argue there are independent movements for Scotland, Wales, Norther Ireland, Yorkshire, Cornwall and now Kent. I vaguely remember London being talked about as well!
Libertarians must be over the moon!
Except Scotland is a Nation but I take your point.London shows the absurdity of the likes of Scotland complaint that they didn’t vote for Brexit. Far bigger population, far bigger economy - but that’s democracy.
I get that point as well.Except Scotland is a Nation but I take your point.
You don't see the issue with a country that were told to remain in the UK because they were promised that their voices would be heard and that we were better together having a problem with all of that turning out to be shite?London shows the absurdity of the likes of Scotland complaint that they didn’t vote for Brexit. Far bigger population, far bigger economy - but that’s democracy.
We are better together (in my opinion). I have some empathy of course. However, I also believe that times change, and arguments made at the time when we were debating devolution also change. Not only Brexit, but Scotland’s reliance on North Sea oil as an example.You don't see the issue with a country that were told to remain in the UK because they were promised that their voices would be heard and that we were better together having a problem with all of that turning out to be shite?
BasicallyThe irony of broadly the same Brexiterrs who argued that the UK were better alone (from the EU) also argued that Scotland would be silly to leave a larger union. always seems to get lost.
I mean....this is true but also slightly ironic that many of the people north of the border (and many south of the border who support it) who rightly criticise Brexit, its processes, its voters, its divineness, its lack of plan before the referendum, its difficulty in tearing two very closely linked units asunder....are also often the ones who are keen on Scottish independence, a country far more intertwined to the UK and for far longer than the UK was with the EU.The irony of broadly the same Brexiters who argued that the UK were better alone (from the EU) also argued that Scotland would be silly to leave a larger union always seems to get lost.
For what its worth, I'd build a moat around the M25 and tell the rest of you to do one.Not sure why comparisons about Scottish Independence and Brexit are suddenly being made, considering the point that started the discussion was that there's a difference between London and Scotland voting for Brexit mainly because the Scots were promised not to be ignored by Westminster during the Scottish Independence referendum and that we were indeed "Better Together".
Maybe we need a federal system. The Jock State sounds like a really catchy name.For what its worth, I'd build a moat around the M25 and tell the rest of you to do one.
I like living in my little (or large!) ethnically diverse, outward thinking bubble. Little England has ruined that for me. And at this point, I don't care if that makes me a liberal metropolitan elite!
Sounds good to me! The less I have to deal with these others, the better.Maybe we need a federal system. The Jock State sounds like a really catchy name.
is there a graph that shows continued COVID 19 impact AND no deal Brexit cos that’s where we’re headed.
Why? We're all cnuts.Sounds good to me! The less I have to deal with these others, the better.
Though I do admit I have a huge soft spot for Scotland and the Scots.
If the EU lasts another 250 years this would be apt.Basically
What has to do years past with hypocrisy on the current moment?If the EU lasts another 250 years this would be apt.
EU begins legal action over Boris Johnson's plans to break international law
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-plans-to-break-international-law/ar-BB19Bd5d
so basically nothing has changed as Boris still has the 15th October deadline at the EU summit to agree a deal (which he proclaims as a victory - or he storms off claiming it was him who broke off talks)The European Union had called for the UK to withdraw the elements of the legislation by the end of September.
But Mr Johnson failed to change tack in light of Ms Von Der Leyen's warning and the Bill cleared the House of Commons earlier this week.
The European Commission chief confirmed that it will send a “letter of formal notice” to the UK for breaching the terms of its withdrawal agreement with the European Union.
They have said the UK has one month to reply.
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