Both probably.
On Thursday last week there were no problems according to the government.
Now they're blaming the public for panic buying.
More government panic to follow.
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On Thursday last week there were no problems according to the government.
Now they're blaming the public for panic buying.
More government panic to follow.
My local Esso station is out of fuel. Are the thick racist wankers happy now?
One of the things that bothers me the most about all this on a social level is how Brexiteers, after doing this to our country, are refusing responsibility… they either adopt a laughable, ‘it’s not Brexit’ stance, or they try and push the angle, ‘look, it’s done now, let’s stop talking about it’…
Both of which I find utterly pathetic.
They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!
Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
Both of which I find utterly pathetic.
They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!
Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
They invited a dutch, they didn't expect him to not be blunt?
I saw that some brands were 90% dry, if true the government waited way too long before doing something.
Dutch tend to be direct.They invited a dutch, they didn't expect him to not be blunt?
I saw that some brands were 90% dry, if true the government waited way too long before doing something.
George Useless says it's those stupid voters fault; they'll believe anything.
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We'll blame climate change for Brexit woes next. At least there might actually be some action taken against it.
It happens very quickly when the idiots start panicking. When the news got out late last week the forecourts were selling 5x the fuel they sell on a normal day so the issue went from nothing to out of fuel very quickly.
On the bright side there will be empty petrol stations when I get round to filling up later in the week when everybody has waited in the queues and has full tanks.
Yeah, I've just not bothered till I need to go, by then the stations will be empty again
don't know where everyone thinks they're going with full tanks tbh. Still, even with a shortage, people will 100% drive 5 mins up the road to do the school run / nip to shop. People still won't car share to work.I keep seeing that more and more, a kind of faux-magnanimity, 'we need to move on and pull together'. God forbid any leave voter is honest enough to admit it was a godawful mistake.
I don’t think I’ve lost friends but I’ve lost a lot of respect for people.
Visas are by definition temporary but this has a Whig of "please come and save us from this deep shit. When we don't need you anymore, we'll feck you off".
"'In the North West it rains and rains. And yet we managed to produce the best music, the Industrial Revolution, the trade union movement, the Communist Manifesto and even the goddam computer. Down South, where the Sun never sets, you took all our money and what did you produce? Chas and fecking Dave."
People are nervous, they know we fecked up whether they admit it or not and are now easily spooked. Sat on the edge of their seats waiting to get ahead of the next crisis inevitably waiting round the corner.
Sounds a bit like a post match analysis thread!
If only VAR hadn't cancelled our two offside (Brexit) goals; if only the manager had played 'X' (Adonis) instead of 'Y', (Farage); if only the crowd (Remainers) had got behind Cameron.... if only we were top of the league!!!
I suppose it is similar in that the club (country) are run by a bunch of corrupt, rich pricks who don't care about the fans (people) and have constantly made abhorrent and disastrous selections that led to that trouble for their own self benefit and instead of admitting they were wrong are now throwing money at the problems they caused in the first place!
Radio this morning was brilliant for this. Some old twat on 5Live said that this had nothing to do with Brexit, and people trying to blame Brexit are shirking personal responsibility. They also said that all of this was to blame on the EU. Basically one of those "my actions shouldn't have consequences" types.
AA: dramatic rise in misfuelling
The AA has reported a surge in motorists misfuelling their vehicles over the weekend -- as some motorists put the wrong kind of fuel into their tanks.
Edmund King, AA president, also predicts that the rush to the forecourts should calm down ‘in the coming days’, once more cars are full of fuel.
They also put their cross in the wrong box.
The AA has reported a surge in motorists misfuelling their vehicles over the weekend -- as some motorists put the wrong kind of fuel into their tanks.
Edmund King, AA president, also predicts that the rush to the forecourts should calm down ‘in the coming days’, once more cars are full of fuel.
They also put their cross in the wrong box.
I would assume some are qualified, but no idea if they have the numbers to meaningfully impact the problem. My memory might be tricking me but didn't Tony Blair call on the military in the 2000 fuel shortages?
This, absolutely.
Now they're saying the army will not drive but teach the drivers. In 2000 I think they put about 80 drivers and the small tankers (not artics) on standby which would have made no difference.
It’s so strange. “Look. It’s done now. We need to make the best of it”. Says the turkey with its neck on the block after voting for Christmas.
Absolutely they are. These people vote Conservative regularly.
Doesn't sound unhinged enough to be LVGVan Gaal is going off!!
I love how he pronounces "themselves" near the end
That the Tories keep on winning when the country is
He also didn't say "Philosoffffy"
Seems in Global Britain whatever the problem is, the army will fix it.
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Does fuel delivery to Shell count towards the NATO 2% or not!?
Seems in Global Britain whatever the problem is, the army will fix it.
33% blame the last Labour government!?!?!?!?! What the feck have they been smocking???
Well if they hadn't made the void of personality that was Gordon Brown PM Cameron wouldn't ever have had the chance to take the brexit vote gamble in the first place.
48% blamed the EU for taking their drivers away.
34% blamed the Sultan of Brunei and 27% blamed Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan
Why aren't haulage companies an option or is that covered in "the public"? Not saying they're completely to blame but the people running an industry and the decisions they make might have something to do with that industry attracting enough workers or not.
Well its because some of us remember the shortage of HGV drivers was being flagged up then, the average age and the numbers training in the UK was the worst in the EU and pointed to a shortage in the future. The last Labour government did nothing, the Tory Governments since have done nothing and only certain stand out logistics companies tried to get round it by selective recruitment drives in the EU, which brought in more drivers but kept wages/working conditions down.
Then Covid and Brexit produced the perfect storm, so there we have it... but shortages did really get flagged up on Labour's last watch!
Just doesn't really seem worth it.
I've got an unskilled job for £9.10 an hour, £10 if I worked nights. Before I got that this year I hadn't worked in a very long time.
I'm not away from home like some drivers are, don't have to put in the long hours, don't have to have licenses/qualifications, don't have to comply with as much regulation, am unlikely to kill people if I make a mistake, don't have bosses pressing me to keep time whilst driving economically too etc. and I'm not far off earning what they do.
I also get £18.20 an hour an bank holidays so I'm ahead there.
I've got an unskilled job for £9.10 an hour, £10 if I worked nights. Before I got that this year I hadn't worked in a very long time.
I'm not away from home like some drivers are, don't have to put in the long hours, don't have to have licenses/qualifications, don't have to comply with as much regulation, am unlikely to kill people if I make a mistake, don't have bosses pressing me to keep time whilst driving economically too etc. and I'm not far off earning what they do.
I also get £18.20 an hour an bank holidays so I'm ahead there.
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I'd probably check the latest rates which seem to be around £15-16 per hour for a class 1 day driver (£17-18 per hour for nights and around £21 for long haul)Just doesn't really seem worth it.
I've got an unskilled job for £9.10 an hour, £10 if I worked nights. Before I got that this year I hadn't worked in a very long time.
I'm not away from home like some drivers are, don't have to put in the long hours, don't have to have licenses/qualifications, don't have to comply with as much regulation, am unlikely to kill people if I make a mistake, don't have bosses pressing me to keep time whilst driving economically too etc. and I'm not far off earning what they do.
https://mydrive.eddiestobart.com/ce...600657D0A58FF3D160D6&WVID=5581493USN&LANG=USA
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I love the handwritten message to Brexit votersJust doesn't really seem worth it.
I've got an unskilled job for £9.10 an hour, £10 if I worked nights. Before I got that this year I hadn't worked in a very long time.
I'm not away from home like some drivers are, don't have to put in the long hours, don't have to have licenses/qualifications, don't have to comply with as much regulation, am unlikely to kill people if I make a mistake, don't have bosses pressing me to keep time whilst driving economically too etc. and I'm not far off earning what they do.
I also get £18.20 an hour an bank holidays so I'm ahead there.
I'm just getting a white screen when I click that link, not sure what gives but I have no reason to doubt you.
What do we think then? The pic I posted that I've seen a few times on social media is fake or have they had to put up their rates due to the shortage?
If they've had to start paying more then that could be seen as a good thing to me if the drivers are getting something more like what I at least feel represents their skill and levels of responsibility.
Of course there's always consumer demand for cheap goods and I'm part of that too so the more it costs to move shit, prices may have to go up and it's where we find the balance. Some companies did very well during lockdown so they should in theory be able to swallow it without prices being impacted one would have thought. I'm looking at supermarkets/Amazon/other online stores etc.
Why would a truck driver leave a full-time position in e.g. the EU for a short-term one in the UK. It sounds like there's a shortage of drivers everywhere, so if you want work on the industry why go for the short-term option?
Of course a very high wage might convince people but then it'd have to be really well paid.
Of course a very high wage might convince people but then it'd have to be really well paid.
It's definitely pay inflation due to shortages. It's happening across the country in our sector (and many others) particularly for lesser skilled workers.
We've upped our HGV salaries from £10 to £13 also (class 2 rather than class 1) in the last 6 months.
It reaches a point where you can’t keep going back until you find a government of your choosing to pin the blame on. The Tories have had 12 years in power, so frankly there’s very little they are not accountable for. You’re really clutching if you think Labour are somehow responsible for the current shortage of HGV drivers.