They were not actually. Their peak came a little bit later (a year or so later). It's actually Falcao whose peak coincided with RVPs and both tussled for the best striker in the world tag at that period.
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Suarez was probably close to peak in that season
Just look at the goals he scored. Left, Right, inside,outside, free kicks, trivelas... RVP carried us to the title while Suarez carried pool to 7th. Take him out and pool would barely make top 10
23 goals(30 in all comps) and 5 assists in the league - RVP managed 26+10 assists
1:55 that goal vs Newcastle was world class
That is insane.October 2019 was the last time Bruno went more than 2 club games without a G/A contribution. Before that, it was November 2018.
Outrageous player.
I am actually worried that the high standard of G/A he is setting that people sooner will start thinking it's a new normal and demand in every match. And if he doesn't then 'bench him' type reactions.
Sums it all up about him:
Mentality: 10/10
Ability: 8/10
Mentality: 10/10
Ability: 8/10
Id have to disagree. I don’t think Falcao was ever regarded as the best striker in the world at any point. Yes he was brilliant in his peak but never the best. Aguero and Suarez have always been ahead of him.
Those were the 2 best strikers in the world at the time.
That is fecking ridiclousOctober 2019 was the last time Bruno went more than 2 club games without a G/A contribution. Before that, it was November 2018.
Outrageous player.
Will always be Kane for me. I know its not fashionable to praise Kane anymore (because he is yesterday's man)
Very few oppo fans I see post in this thread, compared to player threads for oppo players which has a mix of views
they just jelly?
they just jelly?
His signing is similar to Eric for Fergie, minus the titles (so far and I blame that on some individuals making mistakes)
He's got a chance to be POTY if he carries on
He's got a chance to be POTY if he carries on
Falcao was the best striker in the world in 2011/2012 season when he scored 36 goals, which justified he's inclusion in the FIFA world 11.
Disagree all you want. Falcao was third in the Ballon D'or to Messi and Ronaldo.
If that isn't being considered the best no 9 then I don't know what is.
SInce Bruno joined the league yep, it's pretty hard to deny that he's been the player in the league. Maybe Salah, but it really is Bruno. Salah has been sensation during the same period of time, but he's surrounded by much more quality than Bruno is. And Bruno has been on top of his game in almost every single bar the last two or three of last season, when we pretty much pulverized him to the ground.
I still disagree. At the time, if I was offered any of those 3 strikers I would take Aguero or Suarez over him.
I don’t regard awards as a sign someone is the best in their position. Aguero has never been in the Premier League team of the season despite being the best striker for majority of the last 10 years.
You probably wouldn't. Both Suarez and Aguero were still making the step up to world class when Falcao hit his peak. Overrall they are definitely the better players but not during 09-13.
In his two year stint with Atletico he got 70 goals in 93 appearances. By comparison, Suarez got Aguero got 47 goals in 83 and 88 appearances respectively.
He was consistently scoring goals for Atletico against Barcelona and Real Madrid. Provided one of the best assists you will ever see in the CDL final. Bagged a hat-trick against CL champions Chelsea at the Super Cup. Was King of the Europa League with two consecutive topscorer awards and MOTM in the finals.
I don't think you have a strong case here.
You're wrong though. Before that cruciate Falcao was basically a walking perfect hat trick. Unbelievable finisher from any range, maybe even the best I've ever seen. Up there with the likes of Batistuta.
And de Bruyne too. But Bruno is up there in that company.
He’s not the best player in the league but he’s our best player.
Not for me. A younger Zlatan may compare, but there’s only one Cantona.
Who's the best player then in your opinion? Thiago Silva? Salah? Kane? Son?
Salah, Mane, Kane, Son, De Bruyne - all better than Bruno. I'd say the best player is Kane.
As if you mentioned Thiago Silva along side those others
Falcao was never third in the Ballon D'Or. He got 5th in 2012.
The original discussion was based on the year we had RVP and won the title. That same year suarez was ridiculously good for Liverpool with like 43 goals and assists in 44 games. I agree Falcao was phenomenal especially for a year, but doing what Suarez did in the premier league is much better than doing it in the Spanish league for me.
anyway each to their own.
I’m not wrong though. I just have a different opinion to you.
I don't think Son is better than him...
KBD is the best player in the league .. and Bruno runs him close
All better by what parameters? Statistics doesn’t support this, and there are no doubts that Bruno’s personal influence on his team is bigger than any of the above mentioned players
A younger Zlatan played for United?
As for the Zlatan that played for United. He was not exactly that good for us.
If Spurs have the 2 best players in the league then why did they come 6th last year?
Since Bruno has arrived at United only Liverpool has more points than us.
The Premier League on thar era was inferior to La Liga. Not even close. Even Bilbao under Bielsa murdered United in the Europa League. Guess who murdered Bilbao 3:0 on that Final? Guess who was by far the best goalscorer on that competition? Guess who was MOTM in the Final? Guess who scored 2 goals?
Falcão pre knee injury in 2014 was a fantastic goalscorer, that move to Monaco was against his wish, it was Mendes who forced him to leave Atletico, then a couple of months a serious injury and he never recovered his level, but I agree there's an argument to discuss peak Suarez 2014 vs Falcão 2012, regarding Aguero or Van Persie I don't know if they ever peaked to that level.
But at that time the best players in the World were in Spain, unless you only watched Sky and you were able to think Steven Gerrard was better than Messi. And Falcão played at top level between 2010 to 2013 for me. It was terrible to watch him in England.
Just to add a point here, I don't think Fernandes is yet there, and to claim that United has to win titles. Simple.
Son
So, what player in the world currently has more G/A per 90 minutes played (min cutoff of minutes played please)? Surely a shout for Ballon D'or soon?
Honestly if the season ended now Son would win player of the year.Son
Both were injured for large parts of the season? I don’t think they’re the 2 best either that lost wasn’t in any order.
Obviously a younger Zlatan never played for United.
He was instrumental in Utd winning the only 2 trophies since SAF, and was easily on course for a 30+ goal season before he was injured .....not too shabby considering his age
Good write up. Disagree.
Yeah no.Will be in World XI next year.
I also expect Portugal to put up a real fight in Euros, I think they could win it.
I also expect Portugal to put up a real fight in Euros, I think they could win it.
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